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Literally the most famous person ever to come out of Sunderland, probably just ahead of Adam Johnson. What a place!

Score will be whatever Spurs want it to be so probably 4 or 5. Obviously we'll get nil.

Are the away fans still asking for him to "give them a wave" or has that died off already?

Because it didn’t look a fifth down, and in anyway 42,000 turned up at a boycott, a waste of fucking time man. It did like. Lots of areas with huge swaithes of empty seats. Back of the Gallowgate, Upper Leazes, all over Level 7, Platinum club all well under 80% occupied and loads of 2s, 3s and 4s empty dotted around the rest of the ground, even in the central seats in the East Stand. I think low 40k or in other words 80% full looked about right. Certainly no more than that. Much less people inside than at any game last season and we dipped to 48k v Burnley as a comparison. Also the stadium plan can be rather misleading. They had sections W and X in the Leazes L4 as being sold out but they turned out to be less than half full. Mate I couldn’t give a fuck, either way you look at it, the whole thing was a failure. At one point during a break in play the Sky cameras panned around at the huge swaithes of empty seats and mentioned a lot of people hadn't turned up so, yes, it could have been better but it wasn't the total disaster you say it was in my opinion. Anyway Bruce's football and the defeats mounting up will see another 10/15k walk away by Christmas.

Because it didn’t look a fifth down, and in anyway 42,000 turned up at a boycott, a waste of fucking time man. It did like. Lots of areas with huge swaithes of empty seats. Back of the Gallowgate, Upper Leazes, all over Level 7, Platinum club all well under 80% occupied and loads of 2s, 3s and 4s empty dotted around the rest of the ground, even in the central seats in the East Stand. I think low 40k or in other words 80% full looked about right. Certainly no more than that. Much less people inside than at any game last season and we dipped to 48k v Burnley as a comparison. Also the stadium plan can be rather misleading. They had sections W and X in the Leazes L4 as being sold out but they turned out to be less than half full.

42k looked about right based on last seasons crowds against Burnley, Watford and Bournemouth which were 48/49k and the stadium was far, far emptier v Arsenal, certainly a lot more than 1k less than the lowest crowd last season.

How does he not get it? Match day income is worth about what? 10%? It means the buyer has leverage over the seller. If we stop going we become worth more to the buyer than the seller. Therefore handing them the advantage. Matchday income is around the £30m mark which is a huge wedge of money. The point that many people miss is that, without fans, there is no football club. I'm still certain a mass boycott would rid us of him sooner rather than later. Never happening, but it would.

I do wonder if, once it becomes clear we're down under Bruce, Ashley might go for Mourinho a la the Rafa gamble. One thing he'll have presumably learned is that £6m or whatever for a top class manager is a lot less than £100m you need to prop up a shit one. Even that doesn't work which he found out with McClaren. A good manager is worth his weight in gold, worth more than any player. He could give Bruce £100m and I'd still bank on us going down. He gave Rafa nowt and we ended up 10th and 13th with the smallest transfer budget in the league.

He's worse than Pardew. At least he beat Liverpool 3-1 in his first game and got us that 5th placed finish. Bruce is totally out of his depth and has no business being a PL manager. The game "at this level" has simply passed him by.

i always thought in Hebburn the Clock was an NUFC pub and its the Longship thats Sunderland? It was years ago but their Hebburn Branch go from the Clock now! Fucking weirdos that lot. What's with all these branches?

Exactly. Can you imagine the Liverpool Echo or the Manchester Evening News giving one of their clubs owners such an easy ride if they'd spent 12 years destroying one of their clubs? Thick as fuck most of our local journos.

Which were already counted in the clubs attendance figures. Yes, and along with the evidence of the two blocks geordie b posted, it's not hard to understand it could well have been 42k through the gates. It is pretty hard to understand like. You’re suggesting 20% of the stadium didn’t show up. I'd say the stadium looked about 80% full on the telly or 8 in every 10 seats were occupied. Obviously there were several areas Gallowgate upper, Leazes L4, Level 7, Platinum club) which looked to have occupancy levels way less than that. I could quite believe the 42k figure

Taking to a couple of people who were there they both guessed at low 40,000s. Big gaps in the upper Gallowgate, Leazes End below the away fans, Level 7 and Platinum Club areas. One of them was saying last seasons lowest crowd was 48k and it was much emptier than that, far more than the 1k they are trying to claim. If that is the benchmark for performances then Sunday will be one of, if not the biggest gate of the season anyway.

So as it turns out those super fans who insisted on going along to support the team and not the regime, didn't offer the team any vocal backing anyway.

I don't care. What was the score then?

It's not even a proper league this season. There's a couple of teams struggling to even raise a team ffs, games getting called off at short notice etc. It's no different to when I used to play Sunday league football.

Yes, binning our most important player the year after our promotion season, sounds like a good idea. Also how exactly is he out of his depth? Because hes shite hes supposed to be a wide midfielder yet fails in every aspect of that in this league. Peoples standards and expectations have fallen so much if they honestly think this guy is a decent footballer He's been one of our most important players since he signed and has probably made more appearances than any other NUFC player in that time as well.

When Rangers were demoted from the SPL, Celtics crowds took an massive hit (they were down to as little as 20k) and they ended up having to close off a huge section of the Upper Tier of one of their stands, covering the empty seats with huge flags, and effectively reducing capacity to 50k, yet they were still announcing crowds of 55k, despite it being physically impossible and there still being 1000s of empty seats in the sections that were still open which caused much amusement North of the border.

I'm a fan of his. Good player brilliant attitude, drives his team mates on, and he adapted to that more defensive role in the second part of last season superbly but he's talking absolute horse shit there. Fancy describing Mike Mike Ashley, a proven liar on multiple occasions, as honest

Give over man. The attendance in SJP is calculated by how many barcodes have been scanned on the way into the stadium. It’s an accurate representation of how many people are in the stadium (it actually has to be accurate for health and safety purposes). Not a chance it’s any less than 45k in my opinion. The majority of clubs these days, not all but the majority (and I'm almost certain NUFC fall into the majority category) publish the tickets sold figure and not the actual arses on seats number. However they must give the Police Force the actual number of people inside the venue in case of an emergency. You can get that information from Northumbria Police under the freedom of information act if you're that way inclined. Anyway I think they'll announce a crowd of 44k and the actual figure will be around 36k.

Apparently Rafa got us relegated, not McClaren.

DJs in Cosy Joe's every weekend. Staggering that he's never been wiped out considering how anti NUFC he is!

33k marra 7k free tickets dished out yesterday. We all seen what happened at the business end of the season last year when they played Portsmouth in a crucial play off game but they weren't allowed to give tickets away as the receipts are shared. Only 25k turned out despite it being their biggest game of the season.