Spudil

So much this, the despicable cunt.

First bit your not far off. But the second bit, oh my, what a load of bullshit. you can discuss loss of speed, mobility e.t.c. but saying greater muscle mass = more things that can go wrong you should really read up a bit. Actually i've read dribs&drabs about one interesting study, concerning footballers (particularly yth athletes, whether it be round ball, rugby & aussie rules) who over-do it when adding muscle mass in the upper leg areas, especially through the quads & nearby muscle sets, and how they're prone to experiencing persistent groin & hammy issues. It's more of a problem with youngsters, as their bones are still growing/ligaments are still developing, and rapid rate muscle increase can throw a spanner in the works re-durability( without getting into specifics). The Aussie rules code has experienced something of a mini-plague of gym & protein enhanced youngsters breaking down with oestitis-pubis/chronic groin issues. Several clubs are looking to peel back their scientificapproach slightly, by allowing youngsters to grow into their frame, rather than overly force the issue in a short window of time (re: muscle building). How often do you hear of spectacularly tuned track&fielders pulling-up lame, in training, during the lead-up to an event, or mid-event? Not often are they just right, certainly at a level where their ability to compete with the best is compromised. Those physical versions of an F1 peak during the small windows of opportunity they're not crocked, and with those guys (due to the excellence of the field) a slight niggle equates to being crocked, at least worthy of an withdrawal. The Easter Stawell Gift's (famous sprint event featuring amateurs v world class 'finely tuned' goliaths) guest stars , with their abbreviated appearances, reads more like a physio room casualty list ie. Christie, with Asafa Powell the latest. Professional footballers (of today) are not dissimilar, especially the young-uns: impressive to look at, more explosive thanks to modern science/time spent in the gym, when compared with players of yesteryear. Hence the phrasing earlier, they're like track&field beasts disguised in football kits. There's a greater demand placed on athletic physical excellence (cultivated and/or modified) in club football now, almost at a level akin to t&f, and like the finely tuned & muscular Christies/Powells etc, there's a trade-off/downside when gym-fed/conditioned/tuned explosiveness & power meets a lengthy season preparation & match workload.

lol

This. We beat Man U 3-0 at home why wouldn't we be able to beat them 2-0? You laughing? Read the last pages, people make it out like it was impossible to beat Benfica 2-0 ffs. Only Barcelona have done that this season. Barcelona for f***s sake. One of the best club teams to grace the game. You're f***ing mental Right. And only Cit beat Man U by more than three goals last season. Not even Real did it this season. What's your point? Calling me mental for? Actually why even respond when you're clearly delusional? Is there an ignore button on here? Seriously? I can't cope with this every time we don't win. It's like holding a conversation with my 2 year old niece. There is, and you're two year old niece must be very intelligent.

I don't think it's fair to say so.

'kin hell man, that's proper grim

YEah am sure befica had a ranging hard on knowing that if they had out for 20 miutes at the end they would go through. What?

What I find funny is that for the first sixty minutes or so the game was going to plan for both managers, strange situation

Aye, still loved the guy though

ah, no bother man

How about simply 'we've got the type of players to play a passing/moving game and we don't do it'. Is that fair? Not at a very high pace we haven't... Last time we had players for that style was under SBR... We've very little creativity in the team without a fit HBA... Cabaye, Marveuax and Anita can all do it. You're talking nonsense. Wayne Routledge can do it too You'll have to elaborate lad, why are you expressing anguish?

All this Pardew discussion generated by scraping a last minute winner at home to Fulham in a must win game to pull away from the relegation scrap? It's utterly ridiculous, and if anything should highlight why he should go- not stay.

How about simply 'we've got the type of players to play a passing/moving game and we don't do it'. Is that fair? Not at a very high pace we haven't... Last time we had players for that style was under SBR... We've very little creativity in the team without a fit HBA... Cabaye, Marveuax and Anita can all do it. You're talking nonsense. Wayne Routledge can do it too

Bingo. Perhaps we may even finish 8th or 7th depending on injuries and so on. But we will never achieve anything great or even genuinely aspire to under such a negative and conservative manager.

Beat the mackems and I'll just about breathe easy. We are very brittle, if Fulham had scored today we would have imploded and they very nearly did - fine margins.

Judging by the reasoning of plenty on here Pardew would be forgiven for having Villa's squad in leaue 2 ffs "I mean, wut can the manager possibly do with players like Lowton, Baker, Bennett, Westwood, Bowrey and Holman"

This sort of tripe is getting worse and worse. It's truly embarrassing.

Other teams give it a go, even those relegation-threatened. We are too terrified of the opposition to do so. I think it's also a degree of stone age training techniques You're not allowed to say that stuff around here guys. LEAVE PARDEW ALONE

What can Pardew do about that? I mean he does them in training but what can he do if the players simply don't score from them/defend them properly in a match? What can he do? How about his job I was being sarcastic Just using the ridiculous line of reasoning that Pardews lovers use to excuse a whole manner of his failings to show how absurd it is. pardew gets an insane amount of leeway from some people like, 3 points off relegation 7 games to go At the same time, people have quickly written off the fact he took us to the last game of the season away from a Champions League spot. One great season, one s*** season. I'm in the camp where I think he has earned the chance to put it right. If we're still struggling come October or November next season, he deserves to be sacked. If we're back challenging the top 6, we were right to stand by him. agree- the ones wanting him sacked now will start again with the next manager after 3 or 4 defeats. Bollocks. It's complete and utter bollocks, obviously.

What can Pardew do about that? I mean he does them in training but what can he do if the players simply don't score from them/defend them properly in a match? What can he do? How about his job I was being sarcastic Just using the ridiculous line of reasoning that Pardews lovers use to excuse a whole manner of his failings to show how absurd it is.

What can Pardew do about that? I mean he does them in training but what can he do if the players simply don't score from them/defend them properly in a match?