The issue for me has nothing to do with winning the league, the richest will always be up there and it's shit but inevitable. That has no bearing on my love for Newcastle. I want us to try to win and succeed, doesn't matter if we actually do, as long as we try to be the very best we can. That's why i'm so detached, because we don't. Think Dave said it earlier but being in the Championship would make Ashley, and the club, try really hard to win again because he doesn't want us to stay down there and lose money. So yes to relegation I think.