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Not really any rivals he's not exactly high in demand.

Guessing our camp putting the ball in Bents court. In terms of overall financial package we are willing to offer we are telling him how much he wants this move. If he wants us to pay his current 70-80k wage package at Nufc then the transfer fee can only be around £2-3m Want to take a big pay cut then we can push the transfer fee up around over £6m. As of now villa has stated we have not made a bid, only spoken with Bent.

They're all reporting it, not just him. And by all accounts we didn't even bid. The source must had come quite close from Edwards ass to begin with I can guess. Would it change your opinion to know that George Caulkin reported it first? No, theyre both mates, I know who caulkin been speaking to.

They're all reporting it, not just him. And by all accounts we didn't even bid. The source must had come quite close from Edwards ass to begin with I can guess.

£2m we bid really? nothing to do with Luke Edwards (sore ass i got banned from st james) stirring up shit as usual?

not enough players scouted and not enough signed.

Dont get sucked into thinking that, just take a little look back to last summer, Lambias was in charge then. It wouldn't matter who we had, we dont budge on our valuation of players That's down to one man. Ashley. Although he doesn't value the players himself, he'll get told the valuation by, Pardew/Carr/Lambias/JFK and that's it, zero wiggle room. I don't mean the valuation I mean the negotiating itself, think Lambias would be more persuading than JFK. Ah i see what you mean, i suppose if Ashley doesn't give them much room to increase offers, again it would difficult to negotiate for whoever it is. I know what mean though, lesser of two fuckwits i guess. Yeah.. as a Chairman from another club I think you would rather deal with Lambias than Kinnear. did they really ever had to deal with Lambeasy? i thought all he ever did was give the go ahead and say 'yes' or 'no' to the deals drawn up and pre contracted by Irving and Charnley?

So we do have reasons for signing the player other than he's going cheap yeah? Ok fair enough, I know what you mean, it would be nice for price to be less of an issue than it is. I just hate the whole "oh no this club has bought a more expensive player than we have" thing, as if there's a league table for who has spent the most on a player. Who would you rather have, Ben Arfa at £5.75m or Stewart Downing at £20m? Price is always the most important factor. Balance of Price and Ability is, which is what we do and we do it well. Can't disagree with that. So well in fact we've finished in the top half once since 2006. New transfer system has only been in place since we went down. We've done very well in terms of transfers since then, not their fault the managers a loon. No, not one bit. At all. Not their fault there's one goalscorer in the squad either. Ronaldo's gripe is legitimate here. The players we actually sign represent good value. Barring last January has Ashley ever overseen a window where we bought what the squad has actually needed? If the emphasis is on value either all of the time, or disproportionately then the squad has and will suffer. We seemingly will only do a deal when it satisfies the 'value threshold'. Our transfer policy does not seem to allow us to pay a premium for what we need. I think you have to look at is as 'Are we maximising our potential with being daft financially?', 'Are we looking down every avenue in order to improve the club and move forward?' etc. I don't think anyone is advocating being daft financially, secondly the vast majority of the footballing infrastructure at NUFC suggests a lack of ambition. Doesn't require a huge leap of faith to assume the answer to your second question is no. RE: point 1, I know but it's the classic straw man argument thrown around here so much that burns my brain. Very few people are advocating 'going wild' - merely just spending the odd 1-2% of overall revenue of NUFC here or there. Plus as was mentioned t'other day there is decidedly less f***ing around (as shown in January) when there is true desire there to bring in players. when I think i'm agreeing with you here so apologies if I misconstrued your quoted post. Citing players who are expensive is hardly the point I was getting at. Sorry I wasn't clearer. A premium would be sometimes paying a little bit extra to get deals done when we need to. Take the Sissoko deal for example where we paid money for a player we could have gotten for free a few months later. Debuchy would be an example of when we didn't want to pay a premium (the summer before he signed). Of course the necessity at play in buying Sissoko was that we were looking at being relegated. The fact that the only window where we have bought what was necessary, was when we were staring down the barrel of our second relegation, indicates the ambition the powers that be have for the squad. This Summer a Centre Back, Striker and Left Winger Could be deemed necessary to move the forward. I doubt it will happen. I hope you can distinguish this concept of a premium from breaking the world transfer fee record or the British transfer fee record. well i guess i should have been more clearer too, i was talking about going back to the old days of paying premium for marquee names, some will want that of course. i personally don't have a problem with us not paying a premium for those players you named above providing they have other options too. Sissoko i dont believe he was the only midfield player that was available at the time. Nor Debuchy was the only fullback available. Thats where my problems is with this club, tunnel vision going only for a small set of scouted players, mostly all based in france. People say we overate our players, but i think we overate our scouting system the most.

So we do have reasons for signing the player other than he's going cheap yeah? Ok fair enough, I know what you mean, it would be nice for price to be less of an issue than it is. I just hate the whole "oh no this club has bought a more expensive player than we have" thing, as if there's a league table for who has spent the most on a player. Who would you rather have, Ben Arfa at £5.75m or Stewart Downing at £20m? Price is always the most important factor. Balance of Price and Ability is, which is what we do and we do it well. Can't disagree with that. So well in fact we've finished in the top half once since 2006. New transfer system has only been in place since we went down. We've done very well in terms of transfers since then, not their fault the managers a loon. No, not one bit. At all. Not their fault there's one goalscorer in the squad either. Ronaldo's gripe is legitimate here. The players we actually sign represent good value. Barring last January has Ashley ever overseen a window where we bought what the squad has actually needed? If the emphasis is on value either all of the time, or disproportionately then the squad has and will suffer. We seemingly will only do a deal when it satisfies the 'value threshold'. Our transfer policy does not seem to allow us to pay a premium for what we need. What is a premium, back in the days it was a 15 million pounds Shearer? in todays market a top tier marquee name equivilent of a Shearer in premiership will set us back how much? £35-£50 mill for a Rooney, Aguero, RVP. Our very own Andy Carroll cost the scouse £35 mill because they love the premium so much.

Get French Football ‏@GFN_France Those who reported to you last night that Aulas said a fee was agreed with Newcastle for Gomis had taken his comments out of context. #OL

Didnt people use to cream about Carr and our scouting system? They way things are going it would make us believe there is only one striker available on the entire earth.

Where did you get all this add on stuff from.

@GraemeBailey 23s We unserstand Newcastle pulling back from Bafetimbi Gomis due to Lyon's demands. Player's terms were not an issue. Yeh their demand of 10 million euros like they've always said.

Gfn_france For the record, Lyon's pricetag for Bafetimbi Gomis has been and always was €10m this summer. #OL #NUFC They haven't moved the goal post, we just haven't matched their price.

Advanced architectural boundaries aka 'brick walls', to stop spies finding out about the manager's 'tactics'.

Another new signing to be fair. Cisse in and now Gosling for the win.... Get in!!!

To be fair when you play long ball/direct, 4-4-2 is the way to go.

What does?

Got nothing to do with Gomis.

Fitness. It doesn't f***ing help matters when every time we get awarded a freekick no matter where on the pitch its awarded, every f***er is forced to run up to oppositions box to get the long hoof from Krul, and then everyone runs back again because it was f***ing pointless and no one manage to win the header so we run all the way back breaking our necks to defend the counter attack. What happened to putting your hand on the ball and then take the freekick quickly. 95 percent of the time we stop play, everyone run to the oppositions box. The way this team plays 'football' don't exactly do their own stamina and fitness any favours. If not physically draining its mentally destroying at least.

You can form your own opinion on Bent without needed Villa fans to tell you about him. You know what you're going to get with him. The problem isnt us signing Bent, its creating chances for him. Nail on the head. He needs quality crosses and through balls, a rarity at nufc unfortunately.

What? 50K is perfectly reasonable in today's football, especially for a striker with his record. What on Earth do you think we'd pay him? Please be realistic. My goodness. Realistic in the way that a footballer will take a pay cut to play for nufc? At present his alternative is to not play for 2 years. Hardly a difficult choice really Not difficult for him at all.

What? 50K is perfectly reasonable in today's football, especially for a striker with his record. What on Earth do you think we'd pay him? Please be realistic. My goodness. Realistic in the way that a footballer will take a pay cut to play for nufc?

Exactly. QPR, the perfect club for the boy.

exactly, its why talks of formations is no good. no matter what its still under the same shitty manager.