Sean

I'm pretty sure the lawyers of the buyers knew all of this before advising the buyers to pay a £17 million deposit. I've already pretty much stated that in my post. However, this is a pretty unique situation. FWIW of course MBS can pressure the Sheff Utd owner into doing whatever he likes....I fail to see how this wouldn't be an issue sadly. So he can also influence the management and the players? Doesn't have to, only has to be able to influence an owner. Anyway, like I've said, the papers etc don't seem to think it's an issue. It's just, looking objectively, I fail to see how he doesn't have the ability to influence another (less powerful) prince. I'm just thinking out loud really. Hopefully if it was an issue, he'd just influence the other prince to sell Sheff Utd though Well a few things about the whole theory. He's jailed other royal members he saw as threats to his power, not quite randomly as you stated. Competing against a team 80% owned by the PIF - which he chairs but as far as I can tell doesn't deal with the day to day on anyway, that's Yasir somethingorather - is not a threat to his power. As well, let's accept the PIF is doing this as a sportswashing exercise. Turning around to jail/intimidate a cousin owner of another team in the league wouldn't be very smart. Lastly, as far as I can tell he's chair of the PIF by title but it's that Yasir fella what does most of the heavy lifting. The club consumes our daily waking lives, not his. I'd stake my life MBS is in no way going to obsess as we would if we owned it. Thats all well and good, but I don't think him "obsessing" has anything to do with it. It's an owners ability to influence another owner. Can anybody please give a reply based in fact/law that can prove he does not have the ability to influence another owner. Not stating that he is unlikely to. I have the ability to jump the curb and mow down pedestrians in my car. Should I be banned from driving? It's absolutely useless, beyond pointless, to just dream up scenarios as if just because something is possible it will happen. You have to demonstrate something is likely for it to matter. No, the rules solely relate to the ability to influence another owner. Show me where the PL have to prove it is likely? The answer is they don't. They absolutely have to apply some level of certainty jesus christ Every group rich enough to own a football club has, to some extent, the ability to influence people in other clubs. There might be a pecking order, i.e. watfords owners can't exactly bully liverpool's fenway group, but that doesn't mean it's not there in other directions. Wow Comparing unrelated companies to 2 closely related members of the same royal family ffs. It's really not comparable and even you must realise that.

Well yeah it's a strange thing to be angry about I admit. That game was unreal, along with the penalty being disallowed against Burton, that season saw some of the strangest officiating ever (usually against us)

I'm pretty sure the lawyers of the buyers knew all of this before advising the buyers to pay a £17 million deposit. I've already pretty much stated that in my post. However, this is a pretty unique situation. FWIW of course MBS can pressure the Sheff Utd owner into doing whatever he likes....I fail to see how this wouldn't be an issue sadly. So he can also influence the management and the players? Doesn't have to, only has to be able to influence an owner. Anyway, like I've said, the papers etc don't seem to think it's an issue. It's just, looking objectively, I fail to see how he doesn't have the ability to influence another (less powerful) prince. I'm just thinking out loud really. Hopefully if it was an issue, he'd just influence the other prince to sell Sheff Utd though Well a few things about the whole theory. He's jailed other royal members he saw as threats to his power, not quite randomly as you stated. Competing against a team 80% owned by the PIF - which he chairs but as far as I can tell doesn't deal with the day to day on anyway, that's Yasir somethingorather - is not a threat to his power. As well, let's accept the PIF is doing this as a sportswashing exercise. Turning around to jail/intimidate a cousin owner of another team in the league wouldn't be very smart. Lastly, as far as I can tell he's chair of the PIF by title but it's that Yasir fella what does most of the heavy lifting. The club consumes our daily waking lives, not his. I'd stake my life MBS is in no way going to obsess as we would if we owned it. Thats all well and good, but I don't think him "obsessing" has anything to do with it. It's an owners ability to influence another owner. Can anybody please give a reply based in fact/law that can prove he does not have the ability to influence another owner. Not stating that he is unlikely to. I have the ability to jump the curb and mow down pedestrians in my car. Should I be banned from driving? It's absolutely useless, beyond pointless, to just dream up scenarios as if just because something is possible it will happen. You have to demonstrate something is likely for it to matter. No, the rules solely relate to the ability to influence another owner. Show me where the PL have to prove it is likely? The answer is they don't.

I'm pretty sure the lawyers of the buyers knew all of this before advising the buyers to pay a £17 million deposit. I've already pretty much stated that in my post. However, this is a pretty unique situation. FWIW of course MBS can pressure the Sheff Utd owner into doing whatever he likes....I fail to see how this wouldn't be an issue sadly. So he can also influence the management and the players? Doesn't have to, only has to be able to influence an owner. Anyway, like I've said, the papers etc don't seem to think it's an issue. It's just, looking objectively, I fail to see how he doesn't have the ability to influence another (less powerful) prince. I'm just thinking out loud really. Hopefully if it was an issue, he'd just influence the other prince to sell Sheff Utd though Well a few things about the whole theory. He's jailed other royal members he saw as threats to his power, not quite randomly as you stated. Competing against a team 80% owned by the PIF - which he chairs but as far as I can tell doesn't deal with the day to day on anyway, that's Yasir somethingorather - is not a threat to his power. As well, let's accept the PIF is doing this as a sportswashing exercise. Turning around to jail/intimidate a cousin owner of another team in the league wouldn't be very smart. Lastly, as far as I can tell he's chair of the PIF by title but it's that Yasir fella what does most of the heavy lifting. The club consumes our daily waking lives, not his. I'd stake my life MBS is in no way going to obsess as we would if we owned it. Thats all well and good, but I don't think him "obsessing" has anything to do with it. It's an owners ability to influence another owner. Can anybody please give a reply based in fact/law that can prove he does not have the ability to influence another owner. Not stating that he is unlikely to.

I really wouldn't put it past him calling it off and saying they took too long.

The usual, same as always, lies from the Ashley side. Simply . . . he has changed his mind, as usual !!! It’s not even lies by Ashley’s side, it’s lies by Edwards. You don't know this. You have said the same repeatedly for years through numerous Fakeovers. When has Edwards been right about anything? He’s had an easy job because being negative to wind up supporters during an Ashley tenure usually pays off as being correct. Well he's been right by downplaying all the other takeovers sadly.

Their confidence had better be well fucking placed like.

The usual, same as always, lies from the Ashley side. Simply . . . he has changed his mind, as usual !!! If it's with the PL, he can't change his mind. Wouldn't even surprise me if it was just one last wind up from Ashley's side, he loves it You have no proof he can't change his mind. Even this "17m" non refundable stuff has only came from Staveley's side. It being "with the PL" doesn't give any guarantees, no matter how much we all want this to be 100% going through. It's starting to seem very familiar territory this.

The usual, same as always, lies from the Ashley side. Simply . . . he has changed his mind, as usual !!! It’s not even lies by Ashley’s side, it’s lies by Edwards. You don't know this. You have said the same repeatedly for years through numerous Fakeovers.

Here we go again

I'm pretty sure the lawyers of the buyers knew all of this before advising the buyers to pay a £17 million deposit. I've already pretty much stated that in my post. However, this is a pretty unique situation. FWIW of course MBS can pressure the Sheff Utd owner into doing whatever he likes....I fail to see how this wouldn't be an issue sadly. So he can also influence the management and the players? Doesn't have to, only has to be able to influence an owner. Anyway, like I've said, the papers etc don't seem to think it's an issue. It's just, looking objectively, I fail to see how he doesn't have the ability to influence another (less powerful) prince. I'm just thinking out loud really. Hopefully if it was an issue, he'd just influence the other prince to sell Sheff Utd though

I remember plenty of our fans blaming Dubs for this at the time and saying there was no foul. Jake Humphreys knows

I'm pretty sure the lawyers of the buyers knew all of this before advising the buyers to pay a £17 million deposit. I've already pretty much stated that in my post. However, this is a pretty unique situation. FWIW of course MBS can pressure the Sheff Utd owner into doing whatever he likes....I fail to see how this wouldn't be an issue sadly.

Playing devils advocate a bit here, and expect to get it from all quarters for this post, but: The only info we have that the tests will be passed has come from Caulkin via Staveley. Now they should have done research etc to be confident they will pass, but they cannot guarantee this. Sheff Utd are owned by the Princes cousin. The prince can/has randomly imprisoned members of his family...could he pressure the other Prince to influence the outcome of a game? Is there any previous examples of this close an ownership of 2 clubs in the same league? Can anyone find some evidence that suggests this is allowed? Now I'll caveat the above by saying most of the noises coming from the press would suggest there have been "no red flags", but this is the same press that many on here lambast for knowing nothing. I'd like factual information that shows 2 cousins (or ideally 2 members of the same royal family) owning clubs in the same league is OK, not abuse or ramblings.

Agree with this. I'm more likely to double-down against him, even though I can see the merits in his argument - the way he is going about it is completely counter-productive. Just comes across as a total cunt.

Well the timelines not down to them, but neither is whether they pass or not. I hope for everyones sake their confidence is well-placed. It would be the most Newcastle thing ever to fuck this up from here

Some guy is commenting under that article saying his mates uncle works at the PL and the deal is already done :lol: Edwin Preston A bit of quick Facebook research would suggest only one likely candidate residing from North London. You could always ask him for us? I'm going to pass, and assume he's mentally challenged.

Some guy is commenting under that article saying his mates uncle works at the PL and the deal is already done :lol:

Ignore it, they're not going to come out and call for an English manager to lose his job. He's a dead man walking.

But we don't even know if we can have Rafa, that's where the complication lies. Would he leave mid-contract? Would we really be prepared to pay £20m to buy him out of his current one? Until I know the definitive answer, I am going to be looking at realistic alternatives as well. Although I would love to have Rafa back IF it's on the table. Still very intrigued to see what he could do with a full budget to work with. Agreed, if we talk about other managers it's on the proviso we can't have Rafa

Here is some of this surge: https://twitter.com/AlharthiFawaz/status/1255679782353846278 All posting the exact same phrases at the same time. Strange indeed.

Agree, I'm not putting Poch down in my post, just think Rafa's the best option.

I don't quite get the hype around Poch either. Not when we can have Rafa. Aside from their abilities as managers, Poch would only be here for the money/glamour. Rafa wanted to be here when we were shit. He also already has a plan for the whole club. It's an absolute no-brainer.

Still can't believe this arsehole got 3 more top-flight jobs after he was our manager. Still can't believe this arsehole got any job after us tbh. If we ever need to warn another set of fans of someones incompetence in the future we can tell them how right we were about this fraud.

That's interesting. I always thought the club paid rent to the city council? And leased the land directly from them? It’s Freeman land not Council land. The club pay us rent. Whether it goes to Council for them to pass straight to us I couldn’t argue either way as not 100% but I’m pretty sure it comes direct. Along with the Hopping’s it’s one of the two main incomes for the Freeman which is spent maintaining our land, properties and various charitable stuff. Thanks.