Bimpy474

I'm going for me, just watch.

Who's offering odds on which two posters have best argument in the next two hours as the mental overreactions go into over drive

Everyone has a real bad game lads and it's taken us until mid April to have one, it's how we react next week. There's no need to over react we haven't suddenly become a bad team.

All game they've been diving and falling over, absolute wankers and the ref is just pathetic falling for it over and over, usual standard mind.

Aye, he's a good player, becoming a great one if carries this on, he just improves season after season.

Did someone say Watkins wasn't all that earlier, he's been brilliant, movement, holding it up and finishing. Best player on the pitch, we've been awful, beyond awful to actually, worst we've played under Eddie.

Their movement is killing us, we need to dominate the ball to take that away. Hopefully Eddie makes the changes to facilitate it.

Villa 1-1 Newcastle Chelsea 2-1 Brighton Everton 1-0 Fulham Southampton 1-1 Palace Spurs 2-0 Bournemouth Wolves 2-1 Brentford Man City 5-0 Leicester West Ham 1-3 Arsenal Forest 1-3 Man United Leeds 1-2 Liverpool

I think people who are critical of him maybe forgetting he was a sub being subbed. That isn't a nice thing to happen in a footballers mind, and of course being a bit petulant is not good. However Eddie dealt with it there and then, it's over with now.

Maguire is a fecking jinx like

If that's an Achilles injury i feel for the lad, glad Man Utd will miss him but not like that, such a long term horrible injury.

Most players subbed on and then subbed off will get the hump, it's one of those things as a player you find kind of upsetting, even in park football. Eddie will deal with in the right way, not that there's anything to deal with anyhoo. Nothing to see and we move on to Villa away.

I do love an over reaction in the morning. 'Lieutenant Colonel Bill Kilgore in Apocalypse Now (1979)'

Sean is one of the many reasons we're 3rd, his improvement under Eddie has been brilliant and if he continues to improve getting rid of him is madness. We add a player alongside him for rotation and competition, not to replace him, that may push him on more. Aye the team might out grow him, but that's nowhere near yet.

Then we let one in Bet he was raging at half time.

I think he wasn't happy last night despite the scoreline, we were sloppy in possession at times, and he was having a right go at Schar for some long balls I think, defo had words with him during that little break in the first half. That's so good to watch, him never being quite happy with performances, always looking for improvement, always wanting more.

I'm amazed at us, we're great. All down to Eddie Howe and his staff, getting these players how they are, we're so so good

Eddie fuming at us giving the ball away in the last few minutes i would think.

You make a good point, it's a vicious circle that never ends with refs, respect, and unchecked power, I can see your point clearly. All I can say as an ex ref now, teams who kept quiet and didn't abuse you, meant they got a better ref on the day. Verbal and physical intimidation really does affect you, you never know if someone is going to confront you in the car park or whatever, and your performance as a ref suffers, and then the game suffers. I was a terrible player to refs, short temper and mouthy and thought refs deserved most of it. Once I decided to ref I realised what a massive cock I was, it shames me really. As a ref I get one look at a incident, just one angle, and you give a honest a decision as you could, then you get all kinds of abuse, from a minority I would add. It would put off lesser willed people than I, it just isn't worth it to some.

The point is, Mitrovic's push and other aggression shown to refs, that is expanded ten fold to a Saturday/Sunday League ref. That becomes violence, and other behaviour that is beyond belief coming from grown adults. You see it develop in youth football. I know it'll never be, but if professional players and managers were better behaved you would see improvement lower down. 8 games imo is probably right, and Mitrovic's contrition is welcome.

Fair enough

It's not putting it all on his shoulders, but if you can't see the connection of some players behaving as they do towards refs, and some managers behaving the way they do on the sidelines as well (i know you didn't mention managers), well what can one say ? Like I say, go try and see it for yourself, you'll see the connection if you do.

All the people who are saying an 8 games is too long or ridiculous. You do me a favour and you go ref on a Saturday or Sunday park, and then tell me if you think it's too long. Even do kids under 10's games for a glimpse from parents. What amateur players see in a professional game we see on a park pitch, and Mitrovic's push, that push becomes a punch, intimidation that is so violent and so full of vitriol that it scares even the toughest of people, or vandalism to your car or whatever revenge they can extract. All for getting a decision RIGHT. Please go try it, that is all you need to do.

Wahey

He's only 23, some much improvement to come