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It's been widely reported that the only issue is whether the KSA / MbS should be disclosed as a director, so that's very likely to be the only issue they're arbitrating on. Do you think they’ll get arbitration on the whole deal and not the single issue of MBS/govt. After rejecting arbitration on the single point it would seem that’s what they’ll be aiming for. I still think a major point in our favour is the PL’s own rule book, which correct me if I’m wrong directed them to reject deal if all information wasn’t provided, as opposed to kicking into long grass ?

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Hopefully the Trust get behind the lads at NCSL, they deserve everyone’s support. Peter Clennell @ClennellPeter · 8m Replying to @oldheatonian and @nufctrust The Council discussed whether we could assist @NCSL1892 , I spoke with Keith Patterson who is keen to display solidarity - I have communicated our discussion back to the NUST Board as the Council are not there to make decisions, that is what the elected Board are there to do.

The PL cannot just "never let this through". There are rules, and if they do not conform to the rules (whether they are 'their own' rules or not) they can be persuaded to do so, by legal means. That is exactly the stage we are now at. Nobody said it would be quick, or easy, but I do not understand these "throwing in the towel" types. Do they REALLY think like that, or are they just trying to wind us up? Are they like that in their own lives . . always giving up when there is no reason to do so? Maybe some people don’t have the energy for it any more. There is absolutely every chance the PL win the legal case. Maybe they will, but no one should be telling other supporters to give it up.

This bloke has to be the biggest prick ever to have covered NUFC. If there’s a negative angle he’ll find it, what he appears to be missing in this pearler is the fact arbitration normally occurs after a decision has been made. Luke Edwards @LukeEdwardsTele · 1h We already knew Ashley’s legal case was active. Not confident that will be successful either but there is more weight behind it. The problem is the refusal to go to independent arbitration then withdrawing. That seems to be the rock everything hits legally but let’s wait and see.

Couldn’t sum it up any better than this, I’m quite sure O’Donoghue and De Marco are aware of the basics. Steve @oldheatonian reporters and lawyers dipping in with opinion questioning a legal case they have no direct involvement in and more importantly without sighting of the case file nor spoken to the party bringing the case or any members of their legal team. Wow. That stirring the #nufc fan pot

Ok we’ll see you at the end of the season take your own advice.

Quite interesting that they’ve told them to get in line behind clubs action, gives the impression that their legal resources may be stretched. Kennedy confirmed just before this won’t happen, also interestingly the PL have sent numerous communications answering questions they weren’t even asked. Neither case gets to court and this will be settled in my opinion.

Don’t know about anyone else but I’m loving these dots, give me more fucking dots......

Mimms was spot on this is just a sideshow. @LiamJKennedy23 · 21m ⚫⚪ For those asking about #NUFC official club action, PL today confirmed it - but not in way anyone expected. In fact, it's angered many close to #NUFCTakeover for 'breaching confidentiality'. ⚫⚪ Now we know TWO legal actions running concurrently.

This, bit like when Masters spoke at the fans meeting, some people just accepted what he said as being true and give up. I don’t think these lads will roll over that easily. The fact PL have responded tells you there taking this seriously.

Newcastle Consortium Supporters · 3h Thanks for everyone’s support! We can do this together. Today is another day in the fight to get answers. We will update fans when we can - stay as one - fans, team, seller, buyer! Stay UNITED Zebra

We should hear whether they’ve at least replied today. https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/pivotal-day-fan-legal-fight-19292028

Bottom line is PL don’t want a sovereign wealth fund owning a club outside the top 6. If it was a 3 billion pound deal from the Saudis for Mancs or scousers it would have been done a long time ago. The deal has been kicked into long grass by PL, as it looks by their own rules they’re not confident about rejecting it. Project big picture sets out what the top 6 want, control over who can buy other clubs, unofficially that has already taken place with this takeover. I would imagine there is a trail of communications regarding this that the PL do not want disclosed. Maybe the NCSL threat of action is their worst nightmare, Liam Kennedy thinks they will not want this to go to court. Certainly the reported penalties for being found guilty of anti competition rules would be enough to make them very nervous if there are damaging e mails floating about.

I can understand people being pessimistic it’s in our DNA, however I agree with you these people are major players with the finance, political influence and now the best legal counsel representing them. I’m cautiously optimistic, and think everything mimms has said ties in with Liam Kennedy’s ‘join the dots’ quote.

Cheers mimms very interesting.

Can you answer one question mimms. Is your information around the deal based on info you solely have in relation to the NCSL action, or is your confidence also based around other stuff eg Ashley / De Marco action ?

gary metcalfe @gazm47 · 2h @LiamJKennedy23 Can you explain to us how your appeal and the appeal of Mike Ashley are different and what is the point of having two bodies applying legal action? Thanks 1 Liam Kennedy @LiamJKennedy23 Replying to @gazm47 It's not my action. It's NCSL. The line of attack for NCSL case is anti-competition. MA was initially restriction of trade, I believe. More actions against PL the better I say, more chance of clarity. Liam Kennedy @LiamJKennedy23 Replying to @BlackAliblack1 Things are likely to move on this week no doubt. Which direction, who knows?

Not sure that is strictly true, Mark Douglas, Caulkin and even Edwards recently stated things are going on. Though it is the Shields Gazette, I actually believe Kennedy has some good sources. Time will tell though no one is saying it’s def going to happen, but moves are definitely afoot.

Important one though for anyone who still thinks deal is dead. Geordie_Down_Under85 @GeordieInOz85 · 19m Correct me if I'm wrong but the PL can effectively tell them to piss off as they have no legal right to respond? Can you see a positive outcome from this Liam and what do you think the next few weeks will bring in terms of progression if any? 1 2 Liam Kennedy @LiamJKennedy23 Replying to @GeordieInOz85 They've been responding, of that there is no doubt. And of course they could. At the very least this is all adding to the pressure on PL re the deal, which remains live. It could also potentially prove significant.

Can’t be fucking arsed to paste them all over, but Liam Kennedy is replying to fans now on twitter, some interesting stuff.

This thread also makes reference to potential consequences of PL losing court case. @5yntax_Err0r If taken to court and found guilty of breaking competition law the @premierleague could be fined 10% of its total income. For an organisation making billions that will be a significant number running into hundreds of millions. #nufc takeover 6:50 am · 14 Nov 2020·Twitter for Android 5 Retweets 1 Quote Tweet 49 Likes Ian @5yntax_Err0r · 14h Replying to @5yntax_Err0r And then you still have one of (if not the best) sports QC's waiting in the wings to challenge you on all other aspects of what has gone on. I wouldn't like to be in Mr Hoffmans and Masters shoes at the moment. 1 6 Ian @5yntax_Err0r · 14h They made an almighty mistake in underestimating the response from the fans, let's see if they are about to make an even bigger one. The waiting games is over and legally you can't hide behind confidentiality. 1 16 Ian @5yntax_Err0r · 14h You had no right to fail this takeover so your plan appears to have been to stall indefinitely and frustrate in the hope the problem would just go away... Well, that hasn't worked, so it's approve the takeover or prepare to face the consequences.

Your probably right but not sure that will do them any favours after asking for more time. I thought that from the start, 'they haven't done themselves favours by just ignoring it all', but they've proven time and time again that they couldn't care less about how they come off. It's obviously more benefit(somehow) for them to ignore this whole thing than it is for them to let it go through. I suppose I'm just negative as f*** and I can't see this ever ending in our favour, even with all this 'legal action'. Probably the best outlook, but hopefully we’ll be pleasantly surprised. On this occasion we seem to have some real big guns in our corner, and I don’t think they’ve given up yet.

Your probably right but not sure that will do them any favours after asking for more time. Exactly. In a way, I'm quite pleased the fans consortium gave the premier league more time. It looks better for us that way and worse for them if they still try to delay. Yeah this week looks like it could be interesting. Wouldn’t say I’m overly confident, but think this is a real serious attempt the more you hear. I’m also more convinced than ever that this is happening with input from buyer and seller, if so the PL have a formidable legal team against them. No way these fans pay for this action without either financial backing, or full assurance that buyers are still there and ready to proceed with purchase.

Your probably right but not sure that will do them any favours after asking for more time.