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  1. 2 minutes ago, brummie said:

     

    Not really, current three year period is >105m, yes, but with the deductibles, we are apparently ok. Our challenge is this current season, where the 3 year losses will be 37m, 120m and whatever this year is.

     

    Lots of armchair accountancy wizards on Twitter missing the point here and looking at the figure just released for last year.

     

    Yes, the Grealish year falls off now, but to counter that, this season we've already sold 40m plus of homegrown talent, all of which we can claim in this financial year. We also moved Danny Ings on, so that is also off the books as well.

     

    The thing with FFP is also, I guess, have a potential route out if the worst comes to the worst - I'd rather not have to sell, but then again, I'd rather not be Everton and looking at that squad of shite and wondering where on earth the money is.

     

    FWIW, I think your problem is that you've not really got into the business of growing and selling players to create extra room - you need to do that, it's not the answer to everything but it's vital for creating at least a bit of space (see Chelsea, as discussed earlier, they've made a fortune doing this in recent years, and yeah, it'll probably, hopefully cripple them at some point because they can't assume they'll always be able to do that).

    If the reports are true they have to sell £100m of homegrown talent by the 31st June, or there massively in the shit, lot of people saying that’s why spurs pulled the plug on Conor Gallagher for £60m in January as they think they will get him for under £40m in June. They don’t have much left to sell after him though to balance the books until 25/26

  2. 50 minutes ago, manorpark said:

     

    I suppose it depends what happened in the other two years of the three that are covered by FFP?

     

    20/21 £37.3m loss

    21/22 £0.4m profit

    22/23 £119.6m loss

    Total £156.5m loss

    £51.5m over the £105m threshold.

    dont think that will account for allowed deductibles though 
     

  3. On 21/01/2023 at 10:28, nufcnick said:

    There is a player there with the right coaching, I dont care what anyone says. Plus our Shithouseary will go to the next level 

    My post when it was looking likely he would sign, think I was one of the only ones that was quite happy he signed 

  4. I think we could be trying to shaft Chelsea, if he doesn’t meet the signing criteria they would have to remove the £32m they put against their books, which in all likelihood would see them fail FFP, spurs pulled out of the Gallagher signing at the last minute possibly for the same reason, as they will get him for £40m instead of £60m in June knowing that Chelsea have to sell before June 31st 

  5. 53 minutes ago, leffe186 said:


    I’m actually genuinely concerned about what the reffing for our game at Anfield will look like :lol:

    I would be as well, it seems the powers that be want to give Klippty the perfect send off 

  6. We’re normally very quick to jump on shit referee’s, but I think the guy today was one of the better ones, let the game go, hardly heard his whistle and didn’t want to be the center of attention

  7. 29 minutes ago, Keegans Export said:

    So the new rules are (potentially) 85% of turnover rather than £105m "losses" over three years?

     

    85% of our most recent turnover is around £210m which sounds like a lot but there's an article from last summer quoting our wages then at £150m(ish) although there are probably more up-to-date figures out there. And then would it be the whole transfer fee included in the calculations or the current amortisation?

    The PLs suggestion was 85% of turnover for clubs outside of Europe but 70% for those competing in Europe, matching UEFA. It’s a total crock of shit because any team that qualified for Europe unexpectedly would immediately have to cut their wage and amortisation from 85% to 70%, leaving them weaker with more games to play throughout the season, the only benefit to the new system is to the sly6 as no team would risk trying to match them as they would be in trouble of breaching the rules the next season 

  8. 5 minutes ago, 54 said:

    Jesus, does every fucker on here need to be on suicide watch? I get we're in poor form, but You'd think we hadn't just had an amazing two years with this same set of players and manager. :lol:

    We’re in horrific form away from home in the league, against a team that’s almost unbeatable at home with a pacy attack and midfield, and we’re playing with a midfield that parts like the Red Sea, what do you expect. 

  9. 17 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

    I liked @brummie more when Villa were shit tbh 

    People are just clutching at straws, they are probably the best or second best home team in the league currently, with only Liverpool comparable, we’re going to get batted, some of our fans are a bit dense though and think because we beat them earlier in the season we’re going to smash them now

  10. 16 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

    Not NUFC’s issue. We’ve got the means but the current mechanisms and accounting do us over. Unlike others, our owners are willing to plough in their own funds (or more realistically PIF’s).

    I know it’s not our issue, our issue is we have spent massively from a low base to try and catch up, we should have a nice chunk of room come July 1st due to £220k plus coming off the wage bill from contract expiration and that rises to £320k if we can get rid of the dead wood, also the initial takeover January outlay drops off the 3 year rolling period. 

  11. 9 hours ago, Erikse said:

     

    Why is it so much worse now than earlier? Is it because the PL has actually started to apply harsh punsihments, contrary to earlier seasons? Or is it just the inflation factor?

     

     

     

    Clubs got to roll 2 years into 1 during Covid 19/20-20/21, so because they had that extra room probably lived a little beyond their means and are feeling it now. 

  12. 15 minutes ago, Stifler said:

    If it continues with transfer windows like this, then things will change.

    It’s not just transfers though. As I have said previously, we are approaching the 30 year mark since clubs up and down the country started doing stadium developments, and building new stadiums for the all seater rules.

    This is the point where we start needing to replace or upgrade those stands, and stadiums.

    With clubs looking at Everton and seeing them being done by the interest payments on their new stadium, everyone will be reluctant to start doing anything.

    Aside from Everton who are too far along to stop now, you’ll have possibly only us (where our owners can just pay for it upfront) and Man Utd (who can leverage commercial deals) who will plan new stadiums, aside from the much smaller ones planned for Luton, and Bournemouth.

    The thing is though, it has the potential to prevent clubs from even doing stand by stand improvements, and when the dynamics of a stadium are changing to being more than just for football, that represents a potential income loss for clubs.

     

    Nothing for ourselves will change though until UEFA also follow up with changes, and it would just prevent us from competing in Europe as well, which is a problem for the likes of us, and Aston Villa.

    We also don’t know how long these clubs who are not trying to do what us, and Aston Villa are will be happy to set up camp for. The likes of Palace you would think will vote for staying where they are for an eternity.

    They weren’t done for interest payments on the stadium, they were saying it was for interest payments, but it was actually for other running costs. Point 22-23 

    https://resources.premierleague.com/premierleague/document/2023/11/17/49989e4e-01a2-44f9-a012-c3a31ae5536b/2023-11-17-Premier-League-v-Everton-FC-Decision-for-Publication.pdf

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