Bellis80

10 minutes ago, Wandy said:

 

Last season was definitely better than this one. As was pointed out earlier in this thread, we seem to make more noise when under adversity. This season, in a comfortable position, it's completely lost its edge. The Man City game was right at the beginning of the season when nobody would have expected to make a consistent push for the top 4.

That’s what a football crowd is though. Seen Forest and Leeds mentioned as good atmospheres in here but they’ve just come back up recently and in the shit like we were last season. It’s never been bouncing every week.

Would agree about the songs but look at those listed previously on the thread, some will always be there and are heard at times but maybe we just need to accept we’re old cunts and someone isn’t going to be singing about Terry Hibbitt these days. Saying the atmosphere is shit then also saying the songs people are singing aren’t the right ones isn’t going to help.

I think the atmosphere is as good now as it was 25 or so years ago. Before the extension it kept the noise in better but don’t think it’s dropped much. We get reminded of the old games seeing clips on tv regularly but they’re only the big games. Playing Fulham, Derby or someone like that at home was as quiet as it is now. Think people will be moaning however it is and wanting a drum or just constant noise isn’t what an English atmosphere is for me. Crowds react to the game here rather than being organised and putting on some kind of performance. The flags have been magnificent and added something that wasn’t there but that’s before the game. Organising things to be during just seems weird to me.

Moving the away fans downstairs would be the only thing that would make a difference for me and can’t see that being an option or anyone wanting it.

It’s great that our own players, opposition players and managers say how good the atmosphere is at St James or on Sunday when it’s clearly fucking rubbish. Some might think that matters more than a bloke sat in the stand who thinks it’s quiet and remembers it being louder 20 years ago.

It’s obvious people expect different things regarding the atmosphere. Would suggest waiting a few weeks to approach the club regarding improving things though as they’d probably think you’re fucking bonkers if did it today.

They’re a small side and the delivery was either short or awful. Takes an age taking every one regardless of the score. Took about 30 seconds taking a throw in about a minute after moaning about them taking less time when they were killing it. Does me in.

3 hours ago, Whitley mag said:

Been to a handful of away games last couple of years, but been everywhere bar Bournemouth over the years.

 

I’m judging our atmosphere in comparison to Forrest, Leeds, Arsenal, Everton, Villa, Liverpool, Man United to name a few. All better atmosphere’s than SJP currently, it’s a myth Old Trafford has no atmosphere it’s

massively improved in last couple of years with large areas standing and constantly singing throughout the match.

 

I’m a great believer that the acoustics at SJP is a big factor, but the fact remains all these clubs have large amounts of fans standing all through the game without safe standing and create a constant atmosphere better than anything at SJP this season.

 

 

 

I reckon if you spent 5 minutes on a forum of any of those clubs mentioned they’d be saying the same as people on here about it being shite.

But different levels of shite. When season ticket holders aren’t there it’s worse.

1 hour ago, Whitley mag said:

A few with season tickets need shaken up, if they don’t want to create an atmosphere they certainly won’t want to be in a standing section.

If season ticket holders are the problem why are cup games the worst atmosphere?

Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Everyone would buy a ticket for 19 games if they could. 

Not true for 20 years other than the last 12 months

Buy a ticket for 19 games and pay 6 months in advance when you have no idea when the games will be but might give a cup final ticket to a member instead of you. Not right that.

I’d be burning down the box office if I was in P4 and hadn’t got one like.

Baffling how they gave a full day today for about 400 people to buy a ticket.

Can see it being a nightmare for bigger families getting tickets together on Wednesday.

If you take that away there are another 30 odd thousand memberships for sale. Someone can’t buy their mate a ticket any more but they can buy a membership. Doesn’t help any current member have more of a chance of getting one.

7 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said:

Hard agree, Ian. See also, preferential treatment for buying additional match tickets.

They don’t get preferential treatment for buying additional match tickets. They’re also members that can buy the same time as other members. Could remove the membership from the season ticket but people that use it could just pay £30 quid or however much it is and doesn’t change anything.

2 minutes ago, Conjo said:

 

I'd say if you supported Ashley with funds to continue his running of the club all the way up until the takeover you are less deserving of a cup final ticket than someone who got a ST after the take over.

It’s a fair point but if some people hadn’t we might not have the problem of a cup final to worry about.

11 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Why do they deserve more though? My point is that thousands of people would kill for the opportunity to buy a ST. They already have secure tickets to every home game, seems a bit unfair that they also get to monopolise everything else. 

 

I don't really see a logical argument except "that's how it normally works".

 

 

 

 

Until a year ago the thousands of people that wanted one could have had one. They get a seat for every home game and access to away tickets and cup finals. The club did need season ticket holders until very recently. Telling someone who’s been going for decades that someone who bought a membership a year ago has the same chance of a cup final ticket seems more wrong as an alternative.

Something needs to be done regarding away tickets/loyalty points but the idea that season ticket holders don’t deserve more than members is bonkers. All seems to come from buying extra home tickets but they’re just buying them as members.

If anyone had same query as me have to wait until lowest pot if want to sit together with people, including kids. And kids can’t buy adult ticket or an individual one themselves.

2 minutes ago, SteV said:

Yeah

Fair enough. Didn’t realise.

What’s the point if period 2? Did Tranmere go down to less than 25 points?

4 hours ago, TheDimpleboy said:

 

I was baffled by it mate, nobody really seemed "up for it" at all other than for a few minutes after each goal, and then the last 10 minutes of the match.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying everyone has to be stood on their seat and screaming all game, but there was complete silence from the overwhelming majority for a hell of a lot of the match. And apparently the only song that people will join in with now is that bastard Bruno in the middle 

I was absolutely shiting myself for 90 minutes and any noise I made was just an outburst when something happened. Probably the same for a lot of people.

Would love to know what other grounds people have been to for our atmosphere to be considered so shit we need to do something drastic. It’s at least as good as anywhere.

It solves the issue of people getting to go now and again but just encourages people with a lot of points to buy every game. Taking x amount out of the allocation means Southampton away might be 70 points rather than 50. Would be the middle band of points getting a bit shafted. Can’t see a solution myself.