Matt1892

It was more a moan about us spending so much and still having Murphy as our best right winger.

It isn’t about current performance, it is about ability.

Elanga would only get in as we have spent £300 net and still have Jacob Murphy as our first choice right winger. Madness.

Who are the 5 Forest players that would get in to the best 11 out of both teams?

But if you put together the best 11 out of both of them would Botman be in it or not?

MGW and Anderson would get in our midfield? Who would you leave out of Bruno, Tonali and Joelinton? Also, do you think Milenkovic and Murillo are better than Botman?

How many Forest players would you put in our starting 11?

Performances and points.

He has Kevin Nolan vibes, that he has hardly any impact on the game and is quite often a passenger but does pop up with goals.

The issue with Gordon being banned is he will put a shift in supporting Hall by getting back and doubling up on Salah. That is why I think we will go with Joelinton wide left with Willock in the middle.

The decision for them retaining the manager will be based on performances.

Ultimately, he is the manager and it is his job to deliver.

It isn’t a shit metric, it shows the resources that we have had compared to those other clubs along with wages and squad cost, which we blow all of those clubs out of the water with too.

The comparison will come at the end of the season with these clubs, but if we fail to qualify for the Champions League when it potentially falls to a 5th place team and both Man Utd and Spurs have imploded, and instead one of the above enters the competition instead, then that is a failure to capitalise on our part and that sits with the manager.

These are the clubs we are competing with for a Champions League spot though, which is why we they are being compared.

Again though, you can make the argument about the state of our squad that Howe inherited if it was about closing the gap with the likes of City, Arsenal and Liverpool, but it doesn’t stack up when we consider the clubs we are battling with, considering 2 of them were in the Championship. Forest Championship squad https://www.espn.co.uk/football/team/squad/_/id/393/league/ENG.2/season/2021 Bournemouth Championship squad https://www.espn.co.uk/football/team/squad/_/id/349/league/ENG.2/season/2021

We can blame PSR for not being able to compete with City, Liverpool and Arsenal, but we have the 5th highest net spend over the last 5 years and have massively outspent the likes of Forest, Bournemouth and Brighton. 5) Newcastle: £-350.18m 24/25: £17.73m 23/24: £-85.79m (7th) 22/23: £-141.69m (4th) 21/22: £-108.17m (11th) 20/21: £-31.47m (12th) 9) Nottingham Forest: £-217.62m 24/25: £-15.58m 23/24: £-37.2m (17th) 22/23: £-160.27m (16th) 21/22: £-5.07m (4th in Championship) 20/21: £500,000 (17th in Championship) 12) Bournemouth: £-135.96m 24/25: £-49.67m 23/24: £-104.27m (12th) 22/23: £-68.88m (15th) 21/22: £10.08m (2nd in Championship) 20/21: £76.96m (6th in Championship) 16) Brighton: £-75.75m 24/25: £-191.58m 23/24: £69.1m (11th) 22/23: £70.82m (6th) 21/22: £3.25m (9th) 20/21: £-29.6m (16th)

All of them are replaceable, apart from Isak.

If we don’t beat Liverpool in the final and fail to qualify for the Champions League, then I think there is a good chance the club move him on, considering us not reaching Champions League will likely mean one of Forest, Bournemouth, Brighton or even Villa have. His football looks every bit as stale as some of our players, it is hard to believe how bad we play at times with the quality of some of our midfield and attack. He needs to freshen it up with what we have, before the season gets away from us.

Bruno sleeping there.

The majority of their spend has been necessary to be fair, Bournemouth and Forest finished 15th and 16th respectively at the end of the 2022/23 season and Forest finished 17th last season. We have a bigger net spend than Forest in the last 2 seasons too. Bournemouth have spent more since then but they also sold their best player to help finance it. If we are going to use financial income, wages and squad cost as a reason as to why we can’t be expected to compete with Liverpool, Arsenal and Man City, then it is fair to question why we are not capable of finishing above both Bournemouth and Forest, should that be the case at the end of the season, considering the financial income, wages and squad cost advantages we have over them.

We can’t blame FFP for all of our woes if we end up finishing behind either Forest or Bournemouth, considering our resources, transfer spend since PIF came in and the size of our wage bill compared to theirs. If we want to close the gap financially on the sky six then we need to take advantage of the seasons that one or a couple of them implode, as they are unlikely to be down there for more than a season or two. If we can’t do that, because Forest or Bournemouth have taken the spot, then that is a failure on our part.

Let’s not advocate for cowardly football.

I’ve just gone through Liverpools home stats in games this season, we managed 3 shots and all were off target which is the worst from any away team at Anfield in the league, even behind Ipswich who only managed 3 shots but all of them were on target. Man City was slightly better, we managed 3 shots and one on target, which is the second worst attacking performance against them after Ipswich who managed one shots that they scored with.

I don’t expect us to pick up points at Man City or Liverpool, but it would be good to watch us turn up and at least look like we are trying to have a go. Over both games we have managed just 6 shots, which is dreadful whatever way you look at it. I doubt they have played many teams at home who are as shot shy and toothless as we line up.