TRon Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Said it in another thread, but it's worth one of it's own. I wouldn't be surprised if Emre's sold in January which I don't particularly object to. He's not set the world on fire and is not quick enough or consistent enough to be considered irreplaceable. But for God's sake, surely he could take the place of either Butt, Geremi or Smith in midfield? We don't need all three in there scuffling and scrapping (fat lot of good it's done against Arsenal and City). Worth a go I think and will give us someone who can carry the ball forward from midfield. Bear in mind also that Barton is not going to start for a few weeks by the sound of it. You can make this a poll if you like mods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 barton should be ready for spurs so i'd play emre through the middle V everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 So would I. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jamesmartinsmith Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 barton should be ready for spurs so i'd play emre through the middle V everton. Barton's likely to be out for 4-5 weeks. I can't see him being back for the Spurs game in 3 weeks. Emre really livened us up against Arsenal, I was very impressed with his link-up with Oba and N'Zogbia. He should be playing as the creative force in our midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 barton should be ready for spurs so i'd play emre through the middle V everton. Barton's likely to be out for 4-5 weeks. I can't see him being back for the Spurs game in 3 weeks. Emre really livened us up against Arsenal, I was very impressed with his link-up with Oba and N'Zogbia. He should be playing as the creative force in our midfield. i'm putting my marker down,unless he has a set back he'll play against spurs this month Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest teepee Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 i'd also like to see emre next to geremi and butt/smith. would give us a bit more flair, and it isn't as if he is not capable of working hard or so.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gray Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 at home, we should start with BEYE CACAPA ROZEY ENRIQUE MILNER BARTON EMRE ZOG MARTINS VIDUKA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptoon Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 I know that there is very little chance of this as BS will probably play Butt, Smith and Geremi but V Everton at home i'd be positive and play: Harper Beye Taylor Roze Enrique Milner Geremi Emre Zoggy Viduka Martins Subs; Harper, Faye, Butt, Smith, Owen?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mobiius Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 at home, we should start with BEYE CACAPA ROZEY ENRIQUE MILNER BARTON EMRE ZOG MARTINS VIDUKA definitely give us a bit of creativity in midfield, and plenty of width. a right back and a left back that like to get forward on the break, can see lots of goals for us there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NUFC4 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 get him in the damn game and sit at least one of two of butt and smith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 I hope Emre does better than he has so far for us, he's got a lot to prove. I don't see him being as good as some people think he is and his injury record is very poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FlapjackJoe Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Yes, we definitely need creativity in midfield. I still really want to know what Alan Smith does in a 3-man midfield. Gérémi and Butt are defensive-minded players, so I can understand. But since Smudge can (apparently) also play as a striker, surely he should be an attack-minded player, and should try to play the role of an attacking, creative midfield player. Fair enough, he might not be as suited to such a role, but if Sam hasn't tried encouraging him to play as such, what hope is there that Emre would come in in such a role? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 cannot see smith getting dropped imho as i said in another thread he seems to be fat sam and fat mikes golden boy and who will argue against that statement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 I hope Emre does better than he has so far for us, he's got a lot to prove. I don't see him being as good as some people think he is and his injury record is very poor. It's not even a case of thinking he's so good. Just an alternative to having Smith, Geremi and Butt all running on the spot in the centre circle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 cannot see smith getting dropped imho as i said in another thread he seems to be fat sam and fat mikes golden boy and who will argue against that statement What I don't understand about this whole Smithy thingy, is surely that Sam's Pro Zone and other softwares will show that Smith has contributed zilch attacking wise. Does Sam just go blanko when reading Smith's stats?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 They show he runs about a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Harry-Norway Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 as long as we keep Smith out of the 11,use Emre instead,Smith is just good enough ,everytime he did a bad past or lost the ball against City he just gave it up,he is not bleeding black and white yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest teepee Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 They show he runs about a lot. excactly - and probably also that he is around the "action" zone quite a bit unfortunately that doesn't make him a good player in that position... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 for the 10 minutes Smith played upfront against West Ham he showed more than all season so far in midfield. I think Big Sam must get the idea that Smith is not a midfielder. To be fair I thought he could be used as one but he has been gash so far in midfield. I would give up on Shola and consider Smith as one of my forwards. I am sure there is someone out there that would spend a few quid on Shola no goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 I don't fully trust Emre in the midfield. Defensively he's weak and he often seems to play only in bursts. I thought he looked better (not brilliant, but better) on the occasions when he was a withdrawn striker, linking midfield and attack. If we're playing a 4-3-3, I'd put him further forward ie - Beye Taylor Faye Enrique Geremi Roz Smith Milner......Emre .........Viduka Use Zoggy and Martins as impact subs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 I don't fully trust Emre in the midfield. Defensively he's weak and he often seems to play only in bursts. I thought he looked better (not brilliant, but better) on the occasions when he was a withdrawn striker, linking midfield and attack. If we're playing a 4-3-3, I'd put him further forward ie - Beye Taylor Faye Enrique Geremi Roz Smith Milner......Emre .........Viduka Use Zoggy and Martins as impact subs. In a 3 man midifeld do you really need Geremi Roz and Smith? To my mind, if you've got two of Geremi/Butt/Smith in there, that's enough defensive cover. You can afford to have an Emre in the middle, with Zog, Milner and Viduka as the front three. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest teepee Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 I don't fully trust Emre in the midfield. Defensively he's weak and he often seems to play only in bursts. I thought he looked better (not brilliant, but better) on the occasions when he was a withdrawn striker, linking midfield and attack. If we're playing a 4-3-3, I'd put him further forward ie - Beye Taylor Faye Enrique Geremi Roz Smith Milner......Emre .........Viduka Use Zoggy and Martins as impact subs. hold your horses mate - now you've got five defenders and four midfielders on the pitch - this will be a disaster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 I don't fully trust Emre in the midfield. Defensively he's weak and he often seems to play only in bursts. I thought he looked better (not brilliant, but better) on the occasions when he was a withdrawn striker, linking midfield and attack. If we're playing a 4-3-3, I'd put him further forward ie - Beye Taylor Faye Enrique Geremi Roz Smith Milner......Emre .........Viduka Use Zoggy and Martins as impact subs. In a 3 man midifeld do you really need Geremi Roz and Smith? To my mind, if you've got two of Geremi/Butt/Smith in there, that's enough defensive cover. You can afford to have an Emre in the middle, with Zog, Milner and Viduka as the front three. I suppose I'd tend to look at it the other way - that if you've only got three in the midfield, you can't afford to have someone who's tackling and work rate is suspect. I'd agree though that our particular threesome isn't ideal, and I think the addition of Barton will make a big difference. hold your horses mate - now you've got five defenders and four midfielders on the pitch - this will be a disaster. I think the 4-3-3 needs players who are a bit more versatile, because the wide players are expected to drop back. Really the formation ought to be called 4-3-2-1. Milner and Emre have played as withdrawn strikers in that space between midfield and striker, and I think that's where they're at their best. On the defence side, Beye and Enrique are both good going forward, and Roz has played quite a lot in midfield. So I think the balance between attacking and defensive players isn't as warped as you're suggesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 As much as I think the Smith money could have been used better he is a decent striker, not a great goalscorer but someone who works hard and will worry defenders with his aggressive nature. He would be Viduka's back up for me but in midfield I just don't think he offers much apart from the fans getting to see that pretty yellow thing the ref seems to carry around with him every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 We should go with(when fit) BEYE CACAPA ROZEY ENRIQUE MILNER GEREMI BARTON ZOG MARTINS VIDUKA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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