AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Harper right now, but impossible to say for next season. Could easily be Given again if and when he comes back into form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Honestly I wonder how Given can be injured by that deflected shot. My choice would be Krul but seems like Keegan doesn't rate him, and he is too injury prone as well. don't see how you come to either of those conclusions. just think if harper had played all these years how good he would be. definately not a shade on the given of 2006. given's had a bad season, but harper is an average, but competant shot stopper, given can be much better. i refuse to single out given as hopeless when the whole team is a bag of shite. lets meddle with the positions that really matter, the midfield for one and better players up front and maybe an extra defender (top class, not anything less) then if given is holding back the rest of the team we should look elsewhere, but one thing that is for certain is that given is not one of the weak links in this current team, and since we know how good he can be i would be dead against replacing him until he is a weak link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Shay. Best we've got and not worth replacing when you look at the rest of the trash we've got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Honestly I wonder how Given can be injured by that deflected shot. My choice would be Krul but seems like Keegan doesn't rate him, and he is too injury prone as well. don't see how you come to either of those conclusions. When Keegan signed Soderberg he did mention Given and Harper but not Krul---just like he even don't know Krul is belonged to Newcastle. Check Krul's injury record---it is even more terrible than Given's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCW1983 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 On current form i would drop Given, his distribution of the ball has been shocking recently, Harper give a good performance the other day and so thats why i would put him in. Krul i hope is the long term answer but i aint seen too much of him, maybe's another season of playing first team else were will be more benificial to him then sitting in our reserves or on the bench next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Honestly I wonder how Given can be injured by that deflected shot. My choice would be Krul but seems like Keegan doesn't rate him, and he is too injury prone as well. don't see how you come to either of those conclusions. When Keegan signed Soderberg he did mention Given and Harper but not Krul---just like he even don't know Krul is belonged to Newcastle. Check Krul's injury record---it is even more terrible than Given's. Up until last season when Harwood destroyed Givens' stomach, Shay was very rarely injured. To say that he's had a terrible injury record is a bit daft really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Up until last season when Harwood destroyed Givens' stomach, Shay was very rarely injured. To say that he's had a terrible injury record is a bit daft really. Just this season. Not bashing Given though, just wanna point out Krul has too many injuries---his shoulders seems too weak for a professional goalkeeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Up until last season when Harwood destroyed Givens' stomach, Shay was very rarely injured. To say that he's had a terrible injury record is a bit daft really. Just this season. Not bashing Given though, just wanna point out Krul has too many injuries---his shoulders seems too weak for a professional goalkeeper. Fair play. I think that one big injury tends to set you up for more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Al Hadari, Egyptian goalkeeper, goalkeeper of the african nations, hes 36, but aparently very good! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Al Hadari, Egyptian goalkeeper, goalkeeper of the african nations, hes 36, but aparently very good! Looked quality in the ANC, especially as a lot of African keepers tend to be a bit shonky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Al Hadari, Egyptian goalkeeper, goalkeeper of the african nations, hes 36, but aparently very good! Looked quality in the ANC, especially as a lot of African keepers tend to be a bit shonky. Sign a 36 year old Egyptian goalkeeper to replace Given or Harper? Sounds mental to me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Lol Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Shay. Best we've got and not worth replacing when you look at the rest of the trash we've got. But the problem isn't about ability, it's about confidence. Given is a shadow of the keeper he was 2 years ago at an age he should be at his peak. Spurs have had a similar problem with Robinson giving up goals, costing points. Cerny isn't as good as Robinson but his confidence is intact and so he seems better. That, I think, is the same scenario with Given and Harper, Given is the better keeper but Harper is the man with the confidence. I'd go with Harper for the rest of the season, pull Given out of the firing line and see if he can get his confidence restored in training. If the confidence returns, fine. If not, time for Harper with Krul as #2, or a new keeper coming in perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 honestly in my opinion the reason given is playing poorly isn't to do with confidence, its because he's got fed up of being fucked around by newcastle manager after newcastle manager by playing 10 idiots in front of him every match. may well hand in a transfer request in the summer unless the keegan/ashley/mort revolution persuades him tostay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Lol Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 honestly in my opinion the reason given is playing poorly isn't to do with confidence, its because he's got fed up of being f***** around by newcastle manager after newcastle manager by playing 10 idiots in front of him every match. may well hand in a transfer request in the summer unless the keegan/ashley/mort revolution persuades him tostay But a couple of years ago, when you say he would have been pissed off then, he was superb. Maybe he's pissed off the way it's going now, but the Given of now compared to the Given of 2 years ago is like chalk and cheese. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 honestly in my opinion the reason given is playing poorly isn't to do with confidence, its because he's got fed up of being f***** around by newcastle manager after newcastle manager by playing 10 idiots in front of him every match. may well hand in a transfer request in the summer unless the keegan/ashley/mort revolution persuades him tostay But a couple of years ago, when you say he would have been pissed off then, he was superb. Maybe he's pissed off the way it's going now, but the Given of now compared to the Given of 2 years ago is like chalk and cheese. its more of an accumalation imo. newcastle have been about to become successful according to the chairman for about 4 years, yet we've got worse year after year. i think that while 2 years ago he was more optimistic and believed it he's just snapped after continuous dissapointment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Looks like Given will be ok and in the squad for Man United. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Given.. still one of the best keepers in the league, It's just that he's playing behind a pack of shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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