black_n_white Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 How about staying away from unproven foreign players for a change and focus on bringing in british talent to get up us the league next season, for example... Scott Brown Adian Mcgeady Chris Burke Richard Dunne David Bentley Dean Ashton Jimmy Bullard Jason Koumas Nicky Shorey to name a few plus being Welsh and knowing we have some very good up and coming players coming through including Ched Evans, Sam Vokes, Aaron Ramsey and Joe Ledley. Not saying this is going to happen by a long way, i just think there could be some sensible buys there and not out of our reach bearing in mind we are not going to be in europe next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Bar McGeady, Dunne(unrealistic), Bentley, and Shorey that is a depressing list of players. I'd rather take a punt of foreign players that ARE proven in other leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Proven in OTHER leagues! Thats just my point! Havn't we made this mistake many times before???! Keegan has also wished he'd like players that are proven to be successful in the premier league...can we afford to make any more gambles shopping abroad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Proven in OTHER leagues! Thats just my point! Havn't we made this mistake many times before???! Keegan has also wished he'd like players that are proven to be successful in the premier league...can we afford to make any more gambles shopping abroad? We've made the mistake of buying players apparently proven in the premiership that have turned out rubbish aswell. Smith, Barton, Duff etc. It makes no difference to me whether they are from the premiership, la liga, serie a, or the bunesliga, all have the same amount of risk involved IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 How about staying away from unproven foreign players for a change and focus on bringing in british talent to get up us the league next season, for example... Scott Brown Adian Mcgeady Chris Burke Richard Dunne David Bentley Dean Ashton Jimmy Bullard Jason Koumas Nicky Shorey to name a few plus being Welsh and knowing we have some very good up and coming players coming through including Ched Evans, Sam Vokes, Aaron Ramsey and Joe Ledley. Not saying this is going to happen by a long way, i just think there could be some sensible buys there and not out of our reach bearing in mind we are not going to be in europe next season. We'd have to pay three times as much and end up with half the talent though. There's only 1 (well maybe 2) players on that list worth looking at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Dunne and Bentley from that list. Add Modric Fabiano Alves (Porto) Perfect summer Given Beye Dunne Alves Jose Bentley Modric Barton (still think hell come good) Martins Fabiano Owen Now your talkin! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 i'd rather we buy attacking players from abroad, because bar McGeady or Bentley, i can't think of many decent creative players that we have a remote chance of getting.. as far as defenders, i guess it would be better if they are fluent in english.. but as there aren't many options, we'd be better off buying a couple more from Senegal or France, hire a french defensive coach and be done with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest float one in Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 How about staying away from unproven foreign players for a change and focus on bringing in british talent to get up us the league next season, for example... Scott Brown Adian Mcgeady Chris Burke Richard Dunne David Bentley Dean Ashton Jimmy Bullard Jason Koumas Nicky Shorey to name a few plus being Welsh and knowing we have some very good up and coming players coming through including Ched Evans, Sam Vokes, Aaron Ramsey and Joe Ledley. Not saying this is going to happen by a long way, i just think there could be some sensible buys there and not out of our reach bearing in mind we are not going to be in europe next season. Good shout about proven British players - if KK gets in 4 or 5 players in the summer I'd like to see at least two of the type you've put on your list. Bullard is good to watch and would be a good player in the newcastle tradition, but as people have already said, he wants to be in London. Having said that, it would be interesting if Fulham go down and no London teams come in for him - would he consider us? Could KK use his legendary powers of persuasion and charm and sell us to him? I could see Redknapp being interested in him though, which might be hard to compete with, both for geographical and football reasons. He won't attract any bigger clubs than us imo, so it wouldnt be beyond the realms of possibility. Koumas - now there's an idea! I know he's never done it consistently, especially in the premier, but he is a cracking footballer - could Keegan move him on a level and turn him into a top class midfielder for us? Mind, might have to pay over the odds, s they only bought him last summer for 5 mil, and their chairman wouldn't like selling him to Ashley one bit. I think Bentley is going to be attracting better teams than us, although hes happy at Blackburn isnt he? - assumng he wouldn't come here I would like to see him move abroad if he does get transfered, see how he gets on. Anyone know whether the Barton legal situation is likely to be clared up by the summer? if it is, and Keegan likes what he's been seeing in training, Barton could still end up as our first choice attacking midfieder - we could see a different payer with no legal rubbish going on and a full KK pre-season under his belt. In that case a Barton-Bullard or Barton-Koumas midfield would be too lightweight. We need to be looking for a replacement for Butt anyway like, as i reckon next season might be a bridge too far for him. Maybe a foreigner with some real class on the ball as well as the discipine and work rate to anchor the midfield (Mascherano in my dreams ). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 we could get some shit/overpriced British players or get some good foreign players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Why do people go on about Koumas like he's world class FFS! The guy is an above average Championship player and a shit Premiership player. What's the deal? I'd be gutted if that's the standard of player we're looking to sign. While we're at it let's sign Robert Earnshaw, Adi Akinbiyi, Martin Taylor, Lee Hendrie and Michael Duberry - they're all fucking class! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sondre Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Young Norwegian international and Rosenborg player Per Ciljan Skjelbred is an interesting prospect. I'm sure he has been mentioned on here before. Didn't have a good match tonight though, but has impressed several times when playing for Rosenborg, especially against Valencia. He plays in central midfield. Runs a lot and is a good attacking player. Will be worth a look at least. Keegan should send some scouts over to Trondheim when the Norwegian league starts this weekend. He is also rumoured to be a Newcastle fan and he shouldn't be too expensive, maybe £2-3 million. Agree. I think he will be sheer quality in a couple of years, maybe even next season if he was given the chance. He has pace, technique, can dribble and he works his arse off every match. I think he would cost more than 3 million though. Between 4 and 5 probably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Why do people go on about Koumas like he's world class FFS! The guy is an above average Championship player and a s*** Premiership player. What's the deal? I'd be gutted if that's the standard of player we're looking to sign. While we're at it let's sign Robert Earnshaw, Adi Akinbiyi, Martin Taylor, Lee Hendrie and Michael Duberry - they're all f****** class! indeed, fucking Koumas honestly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Thought this thread was Realistic Summer Targets????? I'm just being realistic! In out current position attracting top foreign talent is very unlikely!!! Koumas is a good footballer and better than what we have already in the centre of midfield, i can see emre departing..bartons head is shot after all the shit hes gone through, butt is at the end now, smith is s*** in midfield, nzogbia is way too lightweight and geremi is very average! Signing koumas, bullard and players alike would strengthen the squad and IF we could tempt 'better' players then so be it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest float one in Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Thought this thread was Realistic Summer Targets????? I'm just being realistic! In out current position attracting top foreign talent is very unlikely!!! Koumas is a good footballer and better than what we have already in the centre of midfield, i can see emre departing..bartons head is shot after all the s*** hes gone through, butt is at the end now, smith is s*** in midfield, nzogbia is way too lightweight and geremi is very average! Signing koumas, bullard and players alike would strengthen the squad and IF we could tempt 'better' players then so be it wouldn't argue with much of that, although Barton could yet give us something depending on how the court business turns out. On Koumas, if we signed him I'd expect him to be better than we've seen him so far - playing and training with the likes of Owen, Butt, Barton and hopefully other quality players that KK will bring in, would hopefully push him on a level. And lets not forget the KK factor - we've seen what he can do in terms of getting the best out of players. I understand people who say he's a Championship player, but I just think there's a class Premiership player in there if in the right environment, a good team and under a good manager. There aren't many British players around with his ability to make things happen on the ball. I'd say he could be as good as or better than David Dunn, but hopefully less injury prone. Can we realistically expect to attract much better this year? As I said in a previous post, its a pity he's at Wigan as that could make it a bit tricky for us to sign him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Lucho González - Porto Oscar Cardozo - Benfica Jermaine Jones - Shalke 04 Heurelho da Silva Gomes - PSV Eindhoven Johnny Heitinga - Ajax Ivan Rakitic - Shalke 04 Rasmus Lindgren - Ajax Should be possible. Lindgren is still to prove himself at Ajax, not even close to our national team and he's only had a few good games for Ajax. Don't think he's good enough. Lucho Gonzalez though is fantastic. So is Rafinha of Schalke, but he's probably heading for something better, as is Gonzalez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Underpants Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Lucho González - Porto Oscar Cardozo - Benfica Jermaine Jones - Shalke 04 Heurelho da Silva Gomes - PSV Eindhoven Johnny Heitinga - Ajax Ivan Rakitic - Shalke 04 Rasmus Lindgren - Ajax Should be possible. Lindgren is still to prove himself at Ajax, not even close to our national team and he's only had a few good games for Ajax. Don't think he's good enough. Lucho Gonzalez though is fantastic. So is Rafinha of Schalke, but he's probably heading for something better, as is Gonzalez. The only reason Lindgren hasn't played for the swedish national team (yet) is because we have a complete fool as manager. Lagerbäck doesnt even go to Holland to watch the players, he just sends his own Terry Mac, Roland Andersson, to do it. And to be honest, what does he know..? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaypee Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 John Arne Riise isn't good enough for Newcastle. His career is seemingly beginning to go downwards and he doesn't perform on the level he did for Liverpool a couple of seasons ago anymore. Buying him will be stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 John Arne Riise isn't good enough for Newcastle. His career is seemingly beginning to go downwards and he doesn't perform on the level he did for Liverpool a couple of seasons ago anymore. Buying him will be stupid. Sounds like No.1 on our transfer criteria. Owen Mk.II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duwy Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 I'd be more than happy with this team: Given Beye Taylor Zapata Enrique Carrick Huddlestone Milner N'Zogbia Owen Crouch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 I'd be more than happy with this: ...........................Jaskelainen Beye...............Faye............Heitinga.................Bridge ..........Bentley...Huddlestone...Drenthe ...........Walcott......Ashton.....Martins Can't see it happening though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GAMMELL Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 I'd be more than happy with this: ...........................Jaskelainen Beye...............Faye............Heitinga.................Bridge ..........Bentley...Huddlestone...Drenthe ...........Walcott......Ashton.....Martins Can't see it happening though. I'm fairly sure Johnny Heitinga has signed a pre-contract agreement with Atletico Madrid mate. Having said that, We can only dream of that team you've picked out. Looks class mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 except that Jaaskewhatever is having a worse season than Robinson, Ashton is not better than Viduka and just as match fit and Walcott is not good enough yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustynrg Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 except that Jaaskewhatever is having a worse season than Robinson, Ashton is not better than Viduka and just as match fit and Walcott is not good enough yet. Walcott will be at Arsenal his whole career, there's absolutely no chance on earth he would come to us. I like Ashton though, if he could stay fit and lose some weight he could be Viduka's replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Lol Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 except that Jaaskewhatever is having a worse season than Robinson, Ashton is not better than Viduka and just as match fit and Walcott is not good enough yet. Really? If I was a Newcastle fan, I'd have a fit Ashton in the team ahead of any of your strikers bar Martins. I would have thought the only question mark is his ability to stay fit, not his ability in general. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 except that Jaaskewhatever is having a worse season than Robinson, Ashton is not better than Viduka and just as match fit and Walcott is not good enough yet. Really? If I was a Newcastle fan, I'd have a fit Ashton in the team ahead of any of your strikers bar Martins. I would have thought the only question mark is his ability to stay fit, not his ability in general. well, maybe he's better than Viduka, cause he's younger and more physical.. but i've developed an irrational disliking for bleached footballers, which may cloud my judgment.. oh and Koumas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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