TRon Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 So as chief negotiator he's probably responsible for Owen not being signed up by now then? Good riddance. He's got 12m out of Villa for Milner though, although his negotiation skills only involved the word 'no' (probably knowing about a fuming manager behind his back) and a desperate buyer raising the price to a ridiculous price... Aye, we look reet bunch of smug bastards with that deal there is Milner being a squad player with the current 5th best club in the county, while we are are sitting at 18th. That Martin O'Neil is clueless & Tony has run rings around him here like. You're right, if we had him on our bench it would make all the difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 So as chief negotiator he's probably responsible for Owen not being signed up by now then? Good riddance. He's got 12m out of Villa for Milner though, although his negotiation skills only involved the word 'no' (probably knowing about a fuming manager behind his back) and a desperate buyer raising the price to a ridiculous price... Aye, we look reet bunch of smug bastards with that deal there is Milner being a squad player with the current 5th best club in the county, while we are are sitting at 18th. That Martin O'Neil is clueless & Tony has run rings around him here like. You're right, if we had him on our bench it would make all the difference. If he was with us he would of been playing & starting every game like he did when was with us this season. Not saying he is a world beater but he is a good premier league player, we didn't lose a game while he was at the club this season, we have not won since he left. I tend think Martin O'Neil knows more about what he is doing than TJ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 So as chief negotiator he's probably responsible for Owen not being signed up by now then? Good riddance. He's got 12m out of Villa for Milner though, although his negotiation skills only involved the word 'no' (probably knowing about a fuming manager behind his back) and a desperate buyer raising the price to a ridiculous price... Aye, we look reet bunch of smug bastards with that deal there is Milner being a squad player with the current 5th best club in the county, while we are are sitting at 18th. That Martin O'Neil is clueless & Tony has run rings around him here like. You're right, if we had him on our bench it would make all the difference. If he was with us he would of been playing & starting every game like he did when was with us this season. Not saying he is a world beater but he is a good premier league player, we didn't lose a game while he was at the club this season, we have not won since he left. I tend think Martin O'Neil knows more about what he is doing than TJ. Did the last 10 games of last season not happen or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Or the 10 before that for that matter where he was getting a game and we were losing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Sorry but no-one could have got Owen to sign after our summer dealings hes not daft Do you reckon he thought these lads incoming are s*** I am out of here? I don't understand? But my point is why on earth commit, when the team still needs investment with no promise of it being done hes a businessman hes weighing up his options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 So as chief negotiator he's probably responsible for Owen not being signed up by now then? Good riddance. He's got 12m out of Villa for Milner though, although his negotiation skills only involved the word 'no' (probably knowing about a fuming manager behind his back) and a desperate buyer raising the price to a ridiculous price... Aye, we look reet bunch of smug bastards with that deal there is Milner being a squad player with the current 5th best club in the county, while we are are sitting at 18th. That Martin O'Neil is clueless & Tony has run rings around him here like. You're right, if we had him on our bench it would make all the difference. If he was with us he would of been playing & starting every game like he did when was with us this season. Not saying he is a world beater but he is a good premier league player, we didn't lose a game while he was at the club this season, we have not won since he left. I tend think Martin O'Neil knows more about what he is doing than TJ. Did the last 10 games of last season not happen or something? Of course they happened they are last seasons games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I'd say we've missed Martins, Gutierrez, Viduka & Barton a thousand times more than Milner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Or the 10 before that for that matter where he was getting a game and we were losing. Dont stop there man when Sir Bobby Robson signed him, SBR was gone within weeks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I'd say we've missed Martins, Gutierrez, Viduka & Barton a thousand times more than Milner. I would say you missed the point, like Milner most of the above are good Premier League players. Maybe out of that list Martins is a cut above the crowd though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I think getting £12m for a player who wouldn't be guaranteed a game when we had the above four available, particularly Barton & Gutierrez when we also have the likes of Duff & N'Zogbia, as good business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I think getting £12m for a player who wouldn't be guaranteed a game when we had the above four available, particularly Barton & Gutierrez when we also have the likes of Duff & N'Zogbia, as good business. He always got a game this season, that is all we have to go off for this season. Of course he is not getting a start for Aston Villa but they are a much better team than us that is obvious. Not many of the above would start for Villa either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I think getting £12m for a player who wouldn't be guaranteed a game when we had the above four available, particularly Barton & Gutierrez when we also have the likes of Duff & N'Zogbia, as good business. He always got a game this season, that is all we have to go off for this season. Of course he is not getting a start for Aston Villa but they are a much better team than us that is obvious. Not many of the above would start for Villa either. Who's keeping him out of the Villa team down the right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Nigel Reo-Coker? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Milner getting a game was more down to Keegan's reluctance to play Enrique or Bassong full-back, and N'Zogbia on the wing though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Nigel Reo-Coker? So he can't get a game because a central midfielder known for his defensive qualities is stuck out on the wing instead? Not only is Milner average but he's not suited to Villa's fast counter attacking play either, MON obviously knows best though so us fans who've seen far more of Milner than him better not judge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 i think O'Neill was daft to buy milner at that price, he couldve got so many better players. but overall he's a good manager so you have to back decisions even if you dont think they're going to work out. well played by Jimenez on that one but if you had to choose between Jimenez and O'Neill who would you back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 So he can't get a game because a central midfielder known for his defensive qualities is stuck out on the wing instead? Not only is Milner average but he's not suited to Villa's fast counter attacking play either, MON obviously knows best though so us fans who've seen far more of Milner than him better not judge. As I said Milner is not a world beater he is a good PL player. Of course MON was not going to drop NRC he has been playing really well lately & scored a few goals. They are playing good football bar the Chelsea game so it is hard for anyone to break into that team as Cuéllar is finding. Wayne Routledge who is a lot faster than Milner did not fit into Villa's fast counter attacking play either. Of course RW may be MON downfall, as LW was Rafa's at Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 i think O'Neill was daft to buy milner at that price, he couldve got so many better players. but overall he's a good manager so you have to back decisions even if you dont think they're going to work out. well played by Jimenez on that one but if you had to choose between Jimenez and O'Neill who would you back? As a manager or an agent? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 i think O'Neill was daft to buy milner at that price, he couldve got so many better players. but overall he's a good manager so you have to back decisions even if you dont think they're going to work out. well played by Jimenez on that one but if you had to choose between Jimenez and O'Neill who would you back? As a manager or an agent? On buying players is what he means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 i think O'Neill was daft to buy milner at that price, he couldve got so many better players. but overall he's a good manager so you have to back decisions even if you dont think they're going to work out. well played by Jimenez on that one but if you had to choose between Jimenez and O'Neill who would you back? As a manager or an agent? On buying players is what he means. If it was my money being spent Jiminez. If it was yours, O'Neill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 i think O'Neill was daft to buy milner at that price, he couldve got so many better players. but overall he's a good manager so you have to back decisions even if you dont think they're going to work out. well played by Jimenez on that one but if you had to choose between Jimenez and O'Neill who would you back? As a manager or an agent? On buying players is what he means. If it was my money being spent Jiminez. If it was yours, O'Neill. Ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Just before the Guti fiasco comes home to roost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 "Fiasco"s a bit strong isn't it? FIFA have told them to fuck off, they're just making a lot of noise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Just before the Guti fiasco comes home to roost. Probably rang Mallorca to remind them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Just before the Guti fiasco comes home to roost. Probably rang Mallorca to remind them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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