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[Howaythelads]

 

Good points, Macbeth, as ever.

 

But I think you need to consider reducing the size of those graphics.

 

For one or two people, the pictures are obviously too big to see.

 

I think you need to consider extracting yourself from his back end.

 

Going to try making some points of your own?? You know, points that have some SUBSTANCE behind them.

 

What is it about these facts and figures concerning our steadily declining income and dangerously spiralling ratio of wages to turnover that strikes you as insubstantial, exactly?

 

And what is it that you don't understand about this decline coming about due to the dropping off of performances on the field of play, rather than consistent mismanagment of the clubs finances by the Board? This isn't difficult stuff.

[midds]

 

Good points, Macbeth, as ever.

 

But I think you need to consider reducing the size of those graphics.

 

For one or two people, the pictures are obviously too big to see.

 

I think you need to consider extracting yourself from his back end.

 

Going to try making some points of your own?? You know, points that have some SUBSTANCE behind them.

 

What is it about these facts and figures concerning our steadily declining income and dangerously spiralling ratio of wages to turnover that strikes you as insubstantial, exactly?

 

And what is it that you don't understand about this decline coming about due to the droppoing off of performances on the field of play, rather than consistent mismanagment of the clubs finances by the Board? This isn't difficult stuff.

 

Answering a question with a question....Thatcheresque tbh.  bluebigeek.gif

[Dave]

:lazy:

 

as always.

 

You do yourself no favours posting crap like that. Is there a reason why you don't want to take part, do you feel out of your depth in football knowledge, or something?

 

 

Wayhey!

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,31152.msg595400.html#msg595400

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,31152.msg595485.html#msg595485

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,30985.msg593377.html#msg593377

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,30876.msg589870.html#msg589870

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,30565.msg584583.html#msg584583

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,30454.msg579148.html#msg579148

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,30454.msg579274.html#msg579274

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,28614.msg540869.html#msg540869

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,27484.msg532913.html#msg532913

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,28336.msg531986.html#msg531986

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,27484.msg531984.html#msg531984

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,28746.msg530284.html#msg530284

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,27484.msg526033.html#msg526033

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,27956.msg523663.html#msg523663

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,27936.msg523567.html#msg523567

[Howaythelads]

 

Good points, Macbeth, as ever.

 

But I think you need to consider reducing the size of those graphics.

 

For one or two people, the pictures are obviously too big to see.

 

I think you need to consider extracting yourself from his back end.

 

Going to try making some points of your own?? You know, points that have some SUBSTANCE behind them.

 

What is it about these facts and figures concerning our steadily declining income and dangerously spiralling ratio of wages to turnover that strikes you as insubstantial, exactly?

 

And what is it that you don't understand about this decline coming about due to the droppoing off of performances on the field of play, rather than consistent mismanagment of the clubs finances by the Board? This isn't difficult stuff.

 

Answering a question with a question....Thatcheresque tbh.  bluebigeek.gif

 

My question is an answer to his question.

[NE5]

 

OMG You really don't get it, do you? When it comes to football you just don't see the obvious.

 

Q. Why was Robson removed and replaced by Souness? I'll give you a hint, things weren't going too well for a certain length of time.

 

I shouldn't have to be telling you this, mate.

 

         blueyes.gif 3rd, 4th & 5th, are you really as thick as you seem to be?  It's the best three years Shepherd has had as Chairman.  You must think the same as Shepherd because he also thought that we were also doing badly.       

 

who else - particularly among the board you consider the same as ie between 1965 and 1992 - has finished in the top 5 once , and how many times, not to mention 3 times ....

 

How many times did the board you think is "the same as the current one" qualify for europe between the years 1965 and 1992 ? How many times were they relegated ? How many seasons did they spend in the old 2nd division ?

 

there is only one thick person here so far as I can see that can't look this up and give a straight answer.

 

In fact, I have posted this info before, just search under my username and you'll find it. Long term - cough cough - supporters wouldn't dispute these facts however.

 

In fact, there will be 2 people, because I'm sure the WUM will agree with you, and macbeth might too as he doesn't look at football.

 

:roll:

 

How many individually dropped us 16 league places and made a £12 million loss while getting 50,000 through the gates, gates which are now falling. Just like our finances which you used to big up Shepherd.  Do you still think he's good at managing the finances?

 

well, when we have spent the thick end of 30 years fighting relegation, selling our best players, and end up with 15,000 crowds looking at the 3rd division I might agree that the current board is the same as those who left us there. As you say 

 

I mean, if they are no better, how come we haven't spent the last 14 years at the same level 

 

As I said, long term - cough cough - supporters would not even dispute the point. In fact, at this point, I think you should answer this fact with facts to prove otherwise if you wish to continue with this "debate"... but somehow I doubt that you will or can. You can however, rely on that bastion of knowledge Ozzie, the bloke who you consider to be a WUM, to agree with you  :lol:

 

Which is even funnier.

 

 

[NE5]

 

Good points, Macbeth, as ever.

 

But I think you need to consider reducing the size of those graphics.

 

For one or two people, the pictures are obviously too big to see.

 

 

I think you need to consider extracting yourself from his back end.

 

Going to try making some points of your own?? You know, points that have some SUBSTANCE behind them.

 

What is it about these facts and figures concerning our steadily declining income and dangerously spiralling ratio of wages to turnover that strikes you as insubstantial, exactly?

 

And what is it that you don't understand about this decline coming about due to the droppoing off of performances on the field of play, rather than consistent mismanagment of the clubs finances by the Board? This isn't difficult stuff.

 

Answering a question with a question....Thatcheresque tbh.  bluebigeek.gif

 

 

And you are who, exactly ? And what is your knowledge and experience of the club, exactly ?

 

 

[Howaythelads]

:lazy:

 

as always.

 

You do yourself no favours posting crap like that. Is there a reason why you don't want to take part, do you feel out of your depth in football knowledge, or something?

 

 

Wayhey!

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,31152.msg595400.html#msg595400

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,31152.msg595485.html#msg595485

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,30985.msg593377.html#msg593377

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,30876.msg589870.html#msg589870

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,30565.msg584583.html#msg584583

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,30454.msg579148.html#msg579148

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,30454.msg579274.html#msg579274

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,28614.msg540869.html#msg540869

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,27484.msg532913.html#msg532913

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,28336.msg531986.html#msg531986

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,27484.msg531984.html#msg531984

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,28746.msg530284.html#msg530284

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,27484.msg526033.html#msg526033

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,27956.msg523663.html#msg523663

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,27936.msg523567.html#msg523567

 

bluesleep.gif :roll: tongue.gif gay.gif

[NE5]

:lazy:

 

as always.

 

You do yourself no favours posting crap like that. Is there a reason why you don't want to take part, do you feel out of your depth in football knowledge, or something?

 

 

Wayhey!

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,31152.msg595400.html#msg595400

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,31152.msg595485.html#msg595485

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,30985.msg593377.html#msg593377

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,30876.msg589870.html#msg589870

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,30565.msg584583.html#msg584583

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,30454.msg579148.html#msg579148

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,30454.msg579274.html#msg579274

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,28614.msg540869.html#msg540869

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,27484.msg532913.html#msg532913

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,28336.msg531986.html#msg531986

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,27484.msg531984.html#msg531984

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,28746.msg530284.html#msg530284

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,27484.msg526033.html#msg526033

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,27956.msg523663.html#msg523663

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,27936.msg523567.html#msg523567

 

just about the saddest thing I've EVER seen tbh, and with people like macbeth, Ozzie, chronic and Mick around, thats saying something.   

[Dave]

You do yourself no favours posting crap like that. Is there a reason why you don't want to take part, do you feel out of your depth in football knowledge, or something?

[Dave]

just about the saddest thing I've EVER seen tbh, and with people like macbeth, Ozzie, chronic and Mick around, thats saying something.   

 

 

Cheers.

[NE5]

You do yourself no favours posting crap like that. Is there a reason why you don't want to take part, do you feel out of your depth in football knowledge, or something?

 

If you are referring to me, I have supported the club since 1964, and seen them play almost 900 times, What does your knowledge and experience of the club entail ?

 

:lol: What do you want to know about the club Dave ....... 

[Dave]

 

No, I was quoting HTL, Soopaman!

[NE5]

 

No, I was quoting HTL, Soopaman!

 

thats alright, but the question stilll applies

 

 

[Dave]

I wouldn't slaughter myself in front of you two.

 

Needless to say, I have none of your lengthy experience or knowledge of the club, only what i've seen in my time supporting it - a fraction of the time you have. Does that mean that my opinion doesn't count?

[Howaythelads]

 

No, I was quoting HTL, Soopaman!

 

You're hilarious, Dave. One day, 10 years or so from now, you'll look back at the stuff you're doing on here, especially on this page, and cringe with embarrassment.

 

Brilliant stuff, matey. Brilliant.

[Dave]

Says the 50 year old who posts bluesleep.gif as a response to something he disagrees with.

 

I cringed at your post to melanchronic, which is why I posted all those links.

 

Thanks for the advice though.

 

Did NE5 text you, btw?

[NE5]

I wouldn't slaughter myself in front of you two.

 

Needless to say, I have none of your lengthy experience or knowledge of the club, only what i've seen in my time supporting it - a fraction of the time you have. Does that mean that my opinion doesn't count?

 

I detect a slight change in perspective. You do of course have an opinion, but speaking for myself I am not taking the piss i am trying to put across my view based on what I have seen. You can - again - accept it or reject it, that is your choice, but if you are prepared to listen to people who are trying to tell you something, tell me what you would like to know and I will tell you how I see things, I will not tell you things I do not believe myself because I want this club to be the best as much as anyone.

 

But that is what I have been trying to do from day 1

 

 

 

 

 

[NE5]

Says the 50 year old who posts bluesleep.gif as a response to something he disagrees with.

 

I cringed at your post to melanchronic, which is why I posted all those links.

 

Thanks for the advice though.

 

Did NE5 text you, btw?

 

Dave....the choice is yours. Wise up or remain deluded 

[Howaythelads]

I wouldn't slaughter myself in front of you two.

 

Needless to say, I have none of your lengthy experience or knowledge of the club, only what i've seen in my time supporting it - a fraction of the time you have. Does that mean that my opinion doesn't count?

 

Hmm, it hasn't escaped me that you ask certain people this question, Dave. I've seen others putting people down for beinig overseas posters recently, making out their opinion doesn't count, yet you ignore it. Why's that, Dave? Got a chip about something have you?

[Mick]

 

Good points, Macbeth, as ever.

 

But I think you need to consider reducing the size of those graphics.

 

For one or two people, the pictures are obviously too big to see.

 

I think you need to consider extracting yourself from his back end.

 

Going to try making some points of your own?? You know, points that have some SUBSTANCE behind them.

 

What is it about these facts and figures concerning our steadily declining income and dangerously spiralling ratio of wages to turnover that strikes you as insubstantial, exactly?

 

And what is it that you don't understand about this decline coming about due to the dropping off of performances on the field of play, rather than consistent mismanagment of the clubs finances by the Board? This isn't difficult stuff.

 

Consistent mismanagement is to blame, look at our league finished since Shepherd took over, 14th, 13th twice, 11th twice, 7th, 5th, 4th and 3rd, this season?  We spent most of last season in the lower reaches before finishing off the season on a high.

[Howaythelads]

Says the 50 year old who posts bluesleep.gif as a response to something he disagrees with.

 

I cringed at your post to melanchronic, which is why I posted all those links.

 

Thanks for the advice though.

 

Did NE5 text you, btw?

 

48.

 

Couldn't care less if you cringe at my posts or not, tbh. The point is, you'll cringe at your own in years to come.

 

It's obvious you aren't able to accept others have a different opinion, you aren't able to properly debate the points, instead taking the easy way out by generally highlighting small portions of a post in order to make a personal point, rather than addressing the debate. I post an opinion and I generally try to back it up with why I have that opinion. I know I could be wrong, you on other hand believe you can't be wrong while rarely supplying any reasons for an opinion you hold. When you do state a reason for an opinion which is then questioned in debate, you turn the post into a personal one rather than continue the debate. You aren't the only one and you aren't the worst.

 

I used to think your opinions were worthwhile reading but you appear to have such a chip on your shoulder these days I really can't be arsed with what you post. You're a joke to me, Dave. Never used to be.

 

[Mick]

Says the 50 year old who posts bluesleep.gif as a response to something he disagrees with.

 

I cringed at your post to melanchronic, which is why I posted all those links.

 

Thanks for the advice though.

 

Did NE5 text you, btw?

 

   

[Howaythelads]

Says the 50 year old who posts bluesleep.gif as a response to something he disagrees with.

 

I cringed at your post to melanchronic, which is why I posted all those links.

 

Thanks for the advice though.

 

Did NE5 text you, btw?

 

   

 

OMG, the KK bandwagon jumper has arrived.........

 

Never did go apart from the Cup Finals, eh Mick? Taking the ticket from a real supporter.....

 

Stand tall, push that little chest out, son.

[Mick]

Says the 50 year old who posts bluesleep.gif as a response to something he disagrees with.

 

I cringed at your post to melanchronic, which is why I posted all those links.

 

Thanks for the advice though.

 

Did NE5 text you, btw?

 

48.

 

Couldn't care less if you cringe at my posts or not, tbh. The point is, you'll cringe at your own in years to come.

 

It's obvious you aren't able to accept others have a different opinion, you aren't able to properly debate the points, instead taking the easy way out by generally highlighting small portions of a post in order to make a personal point, rather than addressing the debate. I post an opinion and I generally try to back it up with why I have that opinion. I know I could be wrong, you on other hand believe you can't be wrong while rarely supplying any reasons for an opinion you hold. When you do state a reason for an opinion which is then questioned in debate, you turn the post into a personal one rather than continue the debate. You aren't the only one and you aren't the worst.

 

I used to think your opinions were worthwhile reading but you appear to have such a chip on your shoulder these days I really can't be arsed with what you post. You're a joke to me, Dave. Never used to be.

 

 

Poor Dave, I don't think he'll be able to get over this, it's terrible news, I know it is as I've been through it myself but luckily you still reply from time to time which makes life that little bit easier to take.

 

Chin up Dave, all is not lost.

[Mick]

Says the 50 year old who posts bluesleep.gif as a response to something he disagrees with.

 

I cringed at your post to melanchronic, which is why I posted all those links.

 

Thanks for the advice though.

 

Did NE5 text you, btw?

 

   

 

OMG, the KK bandwagon jumper has arrived.........

 

Never did go apart from the Cup Finals, eh Mick? Taking the ticket from a real supporter.....

 

Stand tall, push that little chest out, son.

 

It's terrible isn't it.