Michael Owen gets injured; rejoice!

[Crumpy Gunt]

Adams led the charge to the bar.

[2sheds]

The decision to make Owen captain together with our form in the first dozen games after he was appointed manager shows just how far out of touch with football Keegan was when he came back a year past January.

 

I know I can't really back up this following statement, but in my opinion ...

 

If Owen isn't captain and say Beye or even Butt was I believe we stay up. We missed staying up by one point. I believe a more vocal and instructive leader would have at least got one more point for us this season in one of the many close calls we had when we just needed that extra push.

 

How demoralising it must have been to see the club captain so quiet, sour faced and dejected when were struggling.

 

 

well beye or even butt should have a long hard look at themselves if they feel they need an arm band to be vocal and lead.

 

I really wonder what our captain was ike off the pitch you know ...

 

Through all those tought imes, did he ever take it upon himself to get the guys together on an off day and just hang out and try and kick back and get the team morale up and bond a bit? Without the manager or any of the coaches around?

 

It's these little things that sometimes make all the difference. Owen's more likely to have been straight into his helicopter and out of the city. People talk about the owner not living in the city. The captain of the team didn't! Crazy stuff.

why couldn't anyone else do it.

 

did tony adams become a shrinking violet cos shearer was his captain when playing for england. no. the captain wears the armband and calls heads or tails. you don't need the arm band to lead

Adams is a bad example to quote he hid whenever England had to take penalties. Where was the 'lead by example' ethic there?

 

Also I remember the t*** in the papers whinging that he should be the captain instead of Shearer, then criticising Al for retiring from international duty. 'I'd never turn my back on my country' he said........................before retiring from internationals himself a few games later

 

have it your way then. tony adams wasn't a leader.

Well you did specifically quote Adams on England duty when he was far from a leader.

 

Clubwise I would agree with you but not for international duty.

[madras]

The decision to make Owen captain together with our form in the first dozen games after he was appointed manager shows just how far out of touch with football Keegan was when he came back a year past January.

 

I know I can't really back up this following statement, but in my opinion ...

 

If Owen isn't captain and say Beye or even Butt was I believe we stay up. We missed staying up by one point. I believe a more vocal and instructive leader would have at least got one more point for us this season in one of the many close calls we had when we just needed that extra push.

 

How demoralising it must have been to see the club captain so quiet, sour faced and dejected when were struggling.

 

 

well beye or even butt should have a long hard look at themselves if they feel they need an arm band to be vocal and lead.

 

I really wonder what our captain was ike off the pitch you know ...

 

Through all those tought imes, did he ever take it upon himself to get the guys together on an off day and just hang out and try and kick back and get the team morale up and bond a bit? Without the manager or any of the coaches around?

 

It's these little things that sometimes make all the difference. Owen's more likely to have been straight into his helicopter and out of the city. People talk about the owner not living in the city. The captain of the team didn't! Crazy stuff.

why couldn't anyone else do it.

 

did tony adams become a shrinking violet cos shearer was his captain when playing for england. no. the captain wears the armband and calls heads or tails. you don't need the arm band to lead

Adams is a bad example to quote he hid whenever England had to take penalties. Where was the 'lead by example' ethic there?

 

Also I remember the t*** in the papers whinging that he should be the captain instead of Shearer, then criticising Al for retiring from international duty. 'I'd never turn my back on my country' he said........................before retiring from internationals himself a few games later

 

have it your way then. tony adams wasn't a leader.

Well you did specifically quote Adams on England duty when he was far from a leader.

 

Clubwise I would agree with you but not for international duty.

adams was still a leader in the international set up, possibly not confident about taking penalties, lets face it in the england team of the time he'd be the last oner i'd pick to take one.

[2sheds]

Without starting a pyramid Madras I would say the time for Adams to show he was a leader was when David Batty is offering to take a penalty.

 

Or Gareth Southgate.

 

In fact did he ever step up to the mark and take the responsibility for taking a penalty himself?

[Dokko]

Without starting a pyramid Madras I would say the time for Adams to show he was a leader was when David Batty is offering to take a penalty.

 

Or Gareth Southgate.

 

In fact did he ever step up to the mark and take the responsibility for taking a penalty himself?

 

Heard he took a few driving penalty points quite well on the chin in his time.

[madras]

Without starting a pyramid Madras I would say the time for Adams to show he was a leader was when David Batty is offering to take a penalty.

 

Or Gareth Southgate.

 

In fact did he ever step up to the mark and take the responsibility for taking a penalty himself?

so he wasn't a leader throughout his international career cos he didn't take a penalty ?

 

 

and i would have both batty and southgate up before adams.

[1878]

Seems like Owen to us is going to happen judging by how strong the rumours are.

 

Can't say I'm too happy as I just don't see how he would fit into our team. I'd rather not drop one of Cahill/Yak/Fellaini to accommodate him & we haven't got the players for a midfield 4 regardless.

[La Parka]

Seems like Owen to us is going to happen judging by how strong the rumours are.

 

Can't say I'm too happy as I just don't see how he would fit into our team. I'd rather not drop one of Cahill/Yak/Fellaini to accommodate him & we haven't got the players for a midfield 4 regardless.

 

 

And the fact he is aboslute fucking dogshit.

[Jayson]

Pointless moaning about the captain situation anyhow.

 

Who is this other person that would have been a masterful captain for us in Owens place ?

 

Butt ?? The guy who clearly lead by example

Or Geremi still ?

 

We have no real capable leaders here anymore. Taylor is probably our best hope and the lads still young.

[La Parka]

Pointless moaning about the captain situation anyhow.

 

Who is this other person that would have been a masterful captain for us in Owens place ?

 

Butt ?? The guy who clearly lead by example

Or Geremi still ?

 

We have no real capable leaders here anymore. Taylor is probably our best hope and the lads still young.

 

Beye?

[Jayson]

Seems like Owen to us is going to happen judging by how strong the rumours are.

 

Can't say I'm too happy as I just don't see how he would fit into our team. I'd rather not drop one of Cahill/Yak/Fellaini to accommodate him & we haven't got the players for a midfield 4 regardless.

 

 

And the fact he is aboslute f***ing dogshit.

 

If he joins everton he'll score, lots.

[La Parka]

Seems like Owen to us is going to happen judging by how strong the rumours are.

 

Can't say I'm too happy as I just don't see how he would fit into our team. I'd rather not drop one of Cahill/Yak/Fellaini to accommodate him & we haven't got the players for a midfield 4 regardless.

 

 

And the fact he is aboslute f***ing dogshit.

 

If he joins everton he'll score, lots.

 

 

Can't see it. He is shit, finished. Wank.

[Jayson]

Pointless moaning about the captain situation anyhow.

 

Who is this other person that would have been a masterful captain for us in Owens place ?

 

Butt ?? The guy who clearly lead by example

Or Geremi still ?

 

We have no real capable leaders here anymore. Taylor is probably our best hope and the lads still young.

 

Beye?

 

Probably the next best yeah. Only been here a couple years, not sure hes shown himself to be a leader either.

I see him bringing players together, but ive not seen him getting riled up or showing real leadership like Al used to.

 

Barton is the next guy who comes closest to that personality & that would just be disasterous.

[Jayson]

Seems like Owen to us is going to happen judging by how strong the rumours are.

 

Can't say I'm too happy as I just don't see how he would fit into our team. I'd rather not drop one of Cahill/Yak/Fellaini to accommodate him & we haven't got the players for a midfield 4 regardless.

 

 

And the fact he is aboslute f***ing dogshit.

 

If he joins everton he'll score, lots.

 

 

Can't see it. He is s***, finished. w***.

 

Come on, realistically.

 

Only last season he got 7 in his last 9.

 

Before christmas this season he went on a run of scoring also.

like 6 in 9 games or something, that doesnt suddenly dissapear.

 

Looked useless after christmas granted, but so did everyone bar vidukas one game v boro.

[La Parka]

Seems like Owen to us is going to happen judging by how strong the rumours are.

 

Can't say I'm too happy as I just don't see how he would fit into our team. I'd rather not drop one of Cahill/Yak/Fellaini to accommodate him & we haven't got the players for a midfield 4 regardless.

 

 

And the fact he is aboslute f***ing dogshit.

 

If he joins everton he'll score, lots.

 

 

Can't see it. He is s***, finished. w***.

 

Come on, realistically.

 

Only last season he got 7 in his last 9.

 

Before christmas this season he went on a run of scoring also.

like 6 in 9 games or something, that doesnt suddenly dissapear.

 

Looked useless after christmas granted, but so did everyone bar vidukas one game v boro.

 

He can't even run, unless he has a shearer-esque revitalisation I just can't see it..

[2sheds]

Without starting a pyramid Madras I would say the time for Adams to show he was a leader was when David Batty is offering to take a penalty.

 

Or Gareth Southgate.

 

In fact did he ever step up to the mark and take the responsibility for taking a penalty himself?

so he wasn't a leader throughout his international career cos he didn't take a penalty ?

 

 

and i would have both batty and southgate up before adams.

Why?

Batty had never taken a penalty before that miss in 1998 yet he still showed more leadership qualities in doing so than Adams, who was hiding in the centre circle at the time.

 

Again it's back to 'lead by example'

[Karjala]

Personally i think he's past it too. No pace what so ever, and no finish any more. Yep if he's provided with chances he's bound to put some away, but he won't be a major force.

 

Never scored 20 in the PL before, and certainly won't in the future.

 

Pleased we have got rid, i'd have been pissed off if we'd stayed up and he got a new contract.

[Ronaldo]

Seems like Owen to us is going to happen judging by how strong the rumours are.

 

Can't say I'm too happy as I just don't see how he would fit into our team. I'd rather not drop one of Cahill/Yak/Fellaini to accommodate him & we haven't got the players for a midfield 4 regardless.

 

 

And the fact he is aboslute f***ing dogshit.

 

If he joins everton he'll score, lots.

 

 

Can't see it. He is s***, finished. w***.

 

Come on, realistically.

 

Only last season he got 7 in his last 9.

 

Before christmas this season he went on a run of scoring also.

like 6 in 9 games or something, that doesnt suddenly dissapear.

 

Looked useless after christmas granted, but so did everyone bar vidukas one game v boro.

 

He can't even run, unless he has a shearer-esque revitalisation I just can't see it..

 

just ignore him, nufc fan my arse, still hero worshiping the little scumbag

[madras]

Without starting a pyramid Madras I would say the time for Adams to show he was a leader was when David Batty is offering to take a penalty.

 

Or Gareth Southgate.

 

In fact did he ever step up to the mark and take the responsibility for taking a penalty himself?

so he wasn't a leader throughout his international career cos he didn't take a penalty ?

 

 

and i would have both batty and southgate up before adams.

Why?

Batty had never taken a penalty before that miss in 1998 yet he still showed more leadership qualities in doing so than Adams, who was hiding in the centre circle at the time.

 

Again it's back to 'lead by example'

because he had more ball skill than adams.......i'd rather beye than bassong take a penalty type thing.

 

also that one incident means he wasn't a leader throughout his time as an international ?

[Jayson]

Seems like Owen to us is going to happen judging by how strong the rumours are.

 

Can't say I'm too happy as I just don't see how he would fit into our team. I'd rather not drop one of Cahill/Yak/Fellaini to accommodate him & we haven't got the players for a midfield 4 regardless.

 

 

And the fact he is aboslute f***ing dogshit.

 

If he joins everton he'll score, lots.

 

 

Can't see it. He is s***, finished. w***.

 

Come on, realistically.

 

Only last season he got 7 in his last 9.

 

Before christmas this season he went on a run of scoring also.

like 6 in 9 games or something, that doesnt suddenly dissapear.

 

Looked useless after christmas granted, but so did everyone bar vidukas one game v boro.

 

He can't even run, unless he has a shearer-esque revitalisation I just can't see it..

 

just ignore him, nufc fan my arse, still hero worshiping the little scumbag

 

Its just an opinion, dont get so upset about it. 

[Shearergol]

Without starting a pyramid Madras I would say the time for Adams to show he was a leader was when David Batty is offering to take a penalty.

 

Or Gareth Southgate.

 

In fact did he ever step up to the mark and take the responsibility for taking a penalty himself?

so he wasn't a leader throughout his international career cos he didn't take a penalty ?

 

 

and i would have both batty and southgate up before adams.

Why?

Batty had never taken a penalty before that miss in 1998 yet he still showed more leadership qualities in doing so than Adams, who was hiding in the centre circle at the time.

 

Again it's back to 'lead by example'

 

Maybe he just knew he was shit at penalties?

[2sheds]

Without starting a pyramid Madras I would say the time for Adams to show he was a leader was when David Batty is offering to take a penalty.

 

Or Gareth Southgate.

 

In fact did he ever step up to the mark and take the responsibility for taking a penalty himself?

so he wasn't a leader throughout his international career cos he didn't take a penalty ?

 

 

and i would have both batty and southgate up before adams.

Why?

Batty had never taken a penalty before that miss in 1998 yet he still showed more leadership qualities in doing so than Adams, who was hiding in the centre circle at the time.

 

Again it's back to 'lead by example'

because he had more ball skill than adams.......i'd rather beye than bassong take a penalty type thing.

 

also that one incident means he wasn't a leader throughout his time as an international ?

One incident?

WTF are you on about?

Did you watch Euro 96 when we had a few penalty shoot outs (without Adams volunteering to step up at any time) or the 98 World Cup where again Adams went missing at the crucial time?

 

Or did you think both Southgate and Batty missed pens on the same day?

[madras]

Without starting a pyramid Madras I would say the time for Adams to show he was a leader was when David Batty is offering to take a penalty.

 

Or Gareth Southgate.

 

In fact did he ever step up to the mark and take the responsibility for taking a penalty himself?

so he wasn't a leader throughout his international career cos he didn't take a penalty ?

 

 

and i would have both batty and southgate up before adams.

Why?

Batty had never taken a penalty before that miss in 1998 yet he still showed more leadership qualities in doing so than Adams, who was hiding in the centre circle at the time.

 

Again it's back to 'lead by example'

because he had more ball skill than adams.......i'd rather beye than bassong take a penalty type thing.

 

also that one incident means he wasn't a leader throughout his time as an international ?

One incident?

WTF are you on about?

Did you watch Euro 96 when we had a few penalty shoot outs (without Adams volunteering to step up at any time) or the 98 World Cup where again Adams went missing at the crucial time?

 

Or did you think both Southgate and Batty missed pens on the same day?

or maybe he thought he wasn't very good at penalties

[Guest]

Without starting a pyramid Madras I would say the time for Adams to show he was a leader was when David Batty is offering to take a penalty.

 

Or Gareth Southgate.

 

In fact did he ever step up to the mark and take the responsibility for taking a penalty himself?

so he wasn't a leader throughout his international career cos he didn't take a penalty ?

 

 

and i would have both batty and southgate up before adams.

Why?

Batty had never taken a penalty before that miss in 1998 yet he still showed more leadership qualities in doing so than Adams, who was hiding in the centre circle at the time.

 

Again it's back to 'lead by example'

because he had more ball skill than adams.......i'd rather beye than bassong take a penalty type thing.

 

also that one incident means he wasn't a leader throughout his time as an international ?

One incident?

WTF are you on about?

Did you watch Euro 96 when we had a few penalty shoot outs (without Adams volunteering to step up at any time) or the 98 World Cup where again Adams went missing at the crucial time?

 

Or did you think both Southgate and Batty missed pens on the same day?

or maybe he thought he wasn't very good at penalties

 

Stop talking sense man.

[2sheds]

Without starting a pyramid Madras I would say the time for Adams to show he was a leader was when David Batty is offering to take a penalty.

 

Or Gareth Southgate.

 

In fact did he ever step up to the mark and take the responsibility for taking a penalty himself?

so he wasn't a leader throughout his international career cos he didn't take a penalty ?

 

 

and i would have both batty and southgate up before adams.

Why?

Batty had never taken a penalty before that miss in 1998 yet he still showed more leadership qualities in doing so than Adams, who was hiding in the centre circle at the time.

 

Again it's back to 'lead by example'

because he had more ball skill than adams.......i'd rather beye than bassong take a penalty type thing.

 

also that one incident means he wasn't a leader throughout his time as an international ?

One incident?

WTF are you on about?

Did you watch Euro 96 when we had a few penalty shoot outs (without Adams volunteering to step up at any time) or the 98 World Cup where again Adams went missing at the crucial time?

 

Or did you think both Southgate and Batty missed pens on the same day?

or maybe he thought he wasn't very good at penalties

Or maybe he didn't want to take the responsibility himself.