George Caulkin strikes again

[Ronaldo]

Oba's injury in December is probably the moment it all wrong this season tbh, on the playing side of things

[quayside]

Oba's injury in December is probably the moment it all wrong this season tbh, on the playing side of things

 

Beye and the anti-christ Barton being done by Cattermole were fairly pivotal imho,

[Ronaldo]

Beye as solid as he is, was replaced very adequately by Taylor

[mrmojorisin75]

Oba's injury in December is probably the moment it all wrong this season tbh, on the playing side of things

 

Beye and the anti-christ Barton being done by Cattermole were fairly pivotal imho,

 

yeah this, we'd have had a few more points at home with barton for sure

[Rich]

Beye as solid as he is, was replaced very adequately by Taylor

 

Which in turn meant we had to persist with Coloccini in the middle.

[Frazzle]

Kinnear said back in December that Colo was his Mr consistent

 

He said it to boost his confidence after a mistake.  H never said he was the clubs most consistent player.  Lazy reporting, that's my point.

[Guest Dr. Richard Kimble]

Caulkin is always fair. The Murdoch press has been kind to us over for the last few weeks.

 

If we throw an anti-tax tea party we'll get on Fox News.

 

 

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[jimmymag]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article6307172.ece

 

Another well written piece by George Caulkin.

 

And isn't that part of the problem, that good, honest pros like Aaron Hughes, James Milner, Jermaine Jenas, and the list goes on, aren't considered good enough for us by supporters and managers alike?

 

Any one of them would certainly improve the team and squad we have now. Perhaps we as fans have too high expectations and are so impatient that we make it almost impossible for young talent to gain the experience that they need to be able to develop into the players we all want them to be.

 

As someone said earlier, perhaps we are getting what we deserve.

[Guest elbee909]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article6307172.ece

 

Another well written piece by George Caulkin.

 

And isn't that part of the problem, that good, honest pros like Aaron Hughes, James Milner, Jermaine Jenas, and the list goes on, aren't considered good enough for us by supporters and managers alike?

 

Any one of them would certainly improve the team and squad we have now. Perhaps we as fans have too high expectations and are so impatient that we make it almost impossible for young talent to gain the experience that they need to be able to develop into the players we all want them to be.

 

As someone said earlier, perhaps we are getting what we deserve.

 

We didn't sell them, did we?  What I mean is that we, you and I, did not sell them.  Hell, I'd have liked to see Acuna stay, FFS.

[binnsy]

He's spot on, agree with everything he says,  i said it at the time that we shouldn't have sold Aaron Hughes,  players like him are invaluable, could play anywhere and we virtually gave him away, £1m was terrible business.  Never the worlds best player but a solid dependable player, at the time we sold him was a better centre half that Bramble, a better left back than Babayaro and the best right back...

 

We have continued to sell players and replace them with inferior ones....this season sums it perfectly would we be staring relegation in the face if Given was in goal instead of Harper, if Faye was playing and not Colo, if Milner was on the right instead of Taylor and N'Zogbia on the left instead of Jonas???

[Neil]

It's an endless cycle - stability breeds confidence and an air of solidity in players, which in turn breeds more stability. Success is very rarely attainable in the short-term.

 

Aaron Hughes is an excellent example picked out by Caulkin, that summarises the whole situation of the past 10 years or so. (Or more, though I can't really comment on further back than that).

[Guest elbee909]

It's one of the side-effects of going through so many managers though, isn't it?  Each of them want to make their mark, and almost inevitably that means clearing people out before they can bring in whomever they worked with before.

[Incognito]

Hughes should never have been sold,its as simple as that.didnt want to leave either..

[Incognito]

It's one of the side-effects of going through so many managers though, isn't it?  Each of them want to make their mark, and almost inevitably that means clearing people out before they can bring in whomever they worked with before.

 

This is true,though why a manager would want to sell a player who can do an adequate job,anywhere along the back 4,beggars belief to be truthful.

[Neil]

It's one of the side-effects of going through so many managers though, isn't it?  Each of them want to make their mark, and almost inevitably that means clearing people out before they can bring in whomever they worked with before.

 

This is true,though why a manager would want to sell a player who can do an adequate job,anywhere along the back 4,beggars belief to be truthful.

 

Because the grass is ALWAYS greener on the other side, no arguments whatsoever. Always 100% true...

[toontownman]

Hughes should never have been sold,its as simple as that.didnt want to leave either..

 

Wrong imo, we were in a position then, where we should have been making the step up and replacing him and others in the squad with better players. Not doing the last that was the mistake.

 

He is better than the majority of s*** we have now but thats just an indication of how far we have fallen, he was never better than distinctly average, its just we have fallen the other side that.

 

In hindsight he would have been useful kept around. The logic wasnt wrong though imo, just another botched half arsed attempt to improve the squad.

[Incognito]

It's one of the side-effects of going through so many managers though, isn't it?  Each of them want to make their mark, and almost inevitably that means clearing people out before they can bring in whomever they worked with before.

 

This is true,though why a manager would want to sell a player who can do an adequate job,anywhere along the back 4,beggars belief to be truthful.

 

Because the grass is ALWAYS greener on the other side, no arguments whatsoever. Always 100% true...

 

But Aaron didnt want to go,he took a step down,at the time to go to Villa,and an even bigger one after that to go to Fulham..how the mighty have fallen.

[Incognito]

Hughes should never have been sold,its as simple as that.didnt want to leave either..

 

Wrong imo, we were in a position then, where we should have been making the step up and replacing him and others in the squad with better players. Not doing the last that was the mistake.

 

He is better than the majority of s*** we have now but thats just an indication of how far we have fallen, he was never better than distinctly average, its just we have fallen the other side that.

 

In hindsight he would have been useful kept around. The logic wasnt wrong though imo, just another botched half arsed attempt to improve the squad.

 

My point is,as a squad player,he would be invaluable to any side in the country,due to his veratility.To ours,he would be first choice in any number of positions.

[Guest sittingontheball]

Our resident Villa fan was distinctly unimpressed by Aaron Hughes and regularly said so. He certainly wasn't "outstanding" on Saturday. Oba completely turned him out on that long hoof forward and nearly scored from nothing.

 

We shouldn't have sold Hughes at the time, but there is no need for exaggerations to prove the point. Selling Dyer and Jenas was a good move in my book. The problem was we always bought poor replacements.

[Guest toonlass]

Our resident Villa fan was distinctly unimpressed by Aaron Hughes and regularly said so. He certainly wasn't "outstanding" on Saturday. Oba completely turned him out on that long hoof forward and nearly scored from nothing.

 

We shouldn't have sold Hughes at the time, but there is no need for exaggerations to prove the point. Selling Dyer and Jenas was a good move in my book. The problem was we always bought poor replacements.

 

[nfrederi]

A little light relief from George dont know if its been posted previous but here you go

 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/newcastle/article6146564.ece

 

good read take your mind off current shite

 

Particularly agreed with

 

Shay Given’s transfer to Manchester City in January 2009 still feels like an affront against nature, particularly for the paltry fee of £5.9 million (cheers Dennis, nice one Mike, good work Derek). Over 12 years, the Irishman made 354 league appearances for Newcastle and just as with Alan Shearer - and often simultaneously - he was a both a match-winner and a match-saver. He suffered from a perceived lack of height - in fact, he is over 6ft - but there was huge compensation in his brilliant reflexes. Substantive in the dressing-room and among supporters, he threw himself into charity work; by the end, he loved Newcastle so much that he had come to despair of life under a tarnished regime. World class

 

Time to dislodge a chip from the shoulder. Newcastle fans are routinely pilloried for their high expectations. Garbage. The only thing most right-thinking Newcastle fans have come to expect is defeat and disaster. And then to be laughed at afterwards. Granted, they yearn for silverware, but who doesn’t? They believe that effort and sweat should be prerequisites for their footballers and that, whenever possible, they should have a bit of fun along the way. Think reparations for all those decades of loyalty and hurt - it’s not exactly the Treaty of Versailles, is it? Expectation? How can you expect something when the last time you won a trophy was 40 years ago? Bobby Moncur was the upstanding captain and excellent centre half, who lifted the Inter Cities Fairs Cup in 1969, scoring three times in the two-legged final against Ujpesti Dosza. Moncur was longserving, the supporters are longsuffering. Rant over; I’ll have some ketchup with that chip, pleas

 

About KK

Doubtful. And it would not have felt so right; striker, catalyst, manager and although most Geordies would not use such a media-driven, loaded, cliched word, Messiah. He saved the club, lifted their heart, dared supporters to dream and remains etched in Newcastle's soul, the travesty of earlier this season notwithstanding.