Mowen Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Has anyone actually read it or is this just another "lets look big and clever by knocking those that are trying to do something?" The petitition has a simple aim, to show all of those involved how much the sale of the club means to the fans, how important it is to get this sorted out and fast while making it clear that we want to just get all this put behind us and move on. 15 posters on Newcastle-Online v 700+ fans elsewhere, I know which one at least has a chance of being listened to. I agree, but I also like the petition calling him a cunt idea. Maybe this could be somehow incorporated into the current work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Has anyone actually read it or is this just another "lets look big and clever by knocking those that are trying to do something?" The petitition has a simple aim, to show all of those involved how much the sale of the club means to the fans, how important it is to get this sorted out and fast while making it clear that we want to just get all this put behind us and move on. 15 posters on Newcastle-Online v 700+ fans elsewhere, I know which one at least has a chance of being listened to. I agree, but I also like the petition calling him a c*** idea. Maybe this could be somehow incorporated into the current work? hmmmm interesting idea, so maybe just a change of wording to add something such as "...and we all think you're a c*** too" I'll take a look Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Fat cunt ftw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Has anyone actually read it or is this just another "lets look big and clever by knocking those that are trying to do something?" The petitition has a simple aim, to show all of those involved how much the sale of the club means to the fans, how important it is to get this sorted out and fast while making it clear that we want to just get all this put behind us and move on. 15 posters on Newcastle-Online v 700+ fans elsewhere, I know which one at least has a chance of being listened to. Do they really need a petition to know all that? If it isn't obvious already then a petition isn't going to make much difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 I'm still gutted that the one to sign Saviola failed about 3 years ago. I signed the thing as well - how embarrassingly desperate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I think we are better off directing our communication toward the footballing authorities to act in this matter. A petition aimed at getting the FA to act would stand a chance, whereas a petition to Ashley to sell will just be ignored, since he's apparently trying to do that right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnufc22 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I think we are better off directing our communication toward the footballing authorities to act in this matter. A petition aimed at getting the FA to act would stand a chance, whereas a petition to Ashley to sell will just be ignored, since he's apparently trying to do that right now. Know any email address that everyone can swamp referring to this absolute farce? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnufc22 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 The FA How to contact The FA Thursday, 01 January, 2009 Please call the number that relates to your query. Fans View Line If you would like to register a comment or complaint on one of the game's current talking points or just want to get something off your chest, please use our Fans View Line. Your views will be reviewed, collated and then forwarded to the relevant departments within The FA. Tel: 020 7745 4999 ? thats all I can see or: http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/WhoWeAre/ContactUs.aspx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fading star Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I think we are better off directing our communication toward the footballing authorities to act in this matter. A petition aimed at getting the FA to act would stand a chance, whereas a petition to Ashley to sell will just be ignored, since he's apparently trying to do that right now. Good idea. How about it NUSC, why don’t you raise the suppoters concerns with the FA. Ask them to look at what is happening at SJP and then see if the rules on fit and proper owners should be changed. It’d make good copy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I know someone who used to work at the FA. I'll talk to him and see if there's actually anything in that idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 NUSC signpost the way forward for Toon - Press Release Thursday 23rd July 2009 Newcastle United Supporters Club (NUSC) today released their latest membership figures which show a sharp surge to pass 2000 making it the largest Supporters grouping in the North East. NUSC who have recently converted to a supporters trust with the aim of ‘buying a stake in the club’ have been at the forefront of the fan campaign to back Alan Shearer as manager and stand ready to work with the new owners. Steve Hastie from the Supporters Club said ‘Its clear that our message of a positive move forward for the club and consigning the Mike Ashley regime to the dustbin of history is chiming with the mood of supporters. We’ve had nearly 1000 names in less than a week back our campaign the clock is ticking, Mike – time to go which is unprecedented. We’ve had geordie expats from the four corners sign up and join the supporters club – from Singapore to Ghana, Italy to the States. We believe that its time to for Mike Ashley to pack his bags and leave with the shred of dignity left and its time to get on, appoint Shearer and finalise the sale. The club have failed to sign anyone but NUSC and the supporters are leading the way and signing up for fans representation at the top levels of the club’ Anyone wanting to find out more should visit www.nusc.org where they will find more info about the club and the petition that aims to make supporters opinion very clear to Mike Ashley. http://www.nusc.org.uk/full_news.php?newsid=71 The aims of the petition may well be clear to Ashley, but their press releases still make me question the hell out of my comprehension skills. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 NUSC signpost the way forward for Toon - Press Release Thursday 23rd July 2009 Newcastle United Supporters Club (NUSC) today released their latest membership figures which show a sharp surge to pass 2000 making it the largest Supporters grouping in the North East. NUSC who have recently converted to a supporters trust with the aim of ‘buying a stake in the club’ have been at the forefront of the fan campaign to back Alan Shearer as manager and stand ready to work with the new owners. Steve Hastie from the Supporters Club said ‘Its clear that our message of a positive move forward for the club and consigning the Mike Ashley regime to the dustbin of history is chiming with the mood of supporters. We’ve had nearly 1000 names in less than a week back our campaign the clock is ticking, Mike – time to go which is unprecedented. We’ve had geordie expats from the four corners sign up and join the supporters club – from Singapore to Ghana, Italy to the States. We believe that its time to for Mike Ashley to pack his bags and leave with the shred of dignity left and its time to get on, appoint Shearer and finalise the sale. The club have failed to sign anyone but NUSC and the supporters are leading the way and signing up for fans representation at the top levels of the club’ Anyone wanting to find out more should visit www.nusc.org where they will find more info about the club and the petition that aims to make supporters opinion very clear to Mike Ashley. http://www.nusc.org.uk/full_news.php?newsid=71 The aims of the petition may well be clear to Ashley, but their press releases still make me question the hell out of my comprehension skills. So basically less than half of NUSC members bothered to even sign the petition? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 United Nations call for Big Al - Press release Friday 24th July 2009 More NUSC members join to support Big Al as Manager. A ‘rainbow coalition’ has come together to call for the immediate hiring of Alan Shearer as manager of Newcastle United. United’s ‘United Nations have joined the clamour for the appointment with calls and e-mails flooding in to Newcastle United Supporters Club from the four corners of the globe. The campaign backed by over 2000 members of NUSC through an online petition on the www.nusc.org.uk now contains over 1300 signatures backing the message to the owner ‘the clock is ticking, Mike – time to sell up’. Messages backing the Chronicle and NUSC campaign to ‘do the right thing’ and appoint Alan Shearer as club manager have arrived from Italy, USA, France, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, the Netherlands, Germany, Serbia, Morocco, Monaco, Egypt, Ghana, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Singapore, China and Japan. A spokesperson for NUSC said. ‘We have members from across the world who reflect the diversity and worldwide reach of Newcastle United and also mirror the passion of the fans in the city. Many have links with the region. Their messages of support for Alan have been overwhelming and we believe that it reflects 99.9% of the fans. Alan will add much needed stability to the club along with a global reach that reflects the club’s true status. It is yet another demonstration to Mr Ashley that his last act could well be his best for the club – appoint Alan now and we believe that the club will become a more saleable asset which will allow him to walk away from the club knowing that he has done the right thing in the end’. NUSC membership is growing daily on the back of their joint campaign with the Chronicle and have gained over 300 members from various countries including 52 from Italy. http://www.nusc.org.uk/full_news.php?newsid=73 More than half now Roger. I thought NUSC had made it clear that they would only speak for their membership, so what's with the claim of effective backing from 99.9% of supporters in this latest press release? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I thought NUSC had made it clear that they would only speak for their membership, so what's with the claim of effective backing from 99.9% of supporters in this latest press release? And where does it say that? point out where the statement claims we have the backing of 99.9% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I thought NUSC had made it clear that they would only speak for their membership, so what's with the claim of effective backing from 99.9% of supporters in this latest press release? And where does it say that? point out where the statement claims we have the backing of 99.9% Presumably he means this line: 'Their messages of support for Alan have been overwhelming and we believe that it reflects 99.9% of the fans.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 United Nations call for Big Al - Press release Friday 24th July 2009 More NUSC members join to support Big Al as Manager. A ‘rainbow coalition’ has come together to call for the immediate hiring of Alan Shearer as manager of Newcastle United. United’s ‘United Nations have joined the clamour for the appointment with calls and e-mails flooding in to Newcastle United Supporters Club from the four corners of the globe. The campaign backed by over 2000 members of NUSC through an online petition on the www.nusc.org.uk now contains over 1300 signatures backing the message to the owner ‘the clock is ticking, Mike – time to sell up’. Messages backing the Chronicle and NUSC campaign to ‘do the right thing’ and appoint Alan Shearer as club manager have arrived from Italy, USA, France, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, the Netherlands, Germany, Serbia, Morocco, Monaco, Egypt, Ghana, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Singapore, China and Japan. A spokesperson for NUSC said. ‘We have members from across the world who reflect the diversity and worldwide reach of Newcastle United and also mirror the passion of the fans in the city. Many have links with the region. Their messages of support for Alan have been overwhelming and we believe that it reflects 99.9% of the fans. Alan will add much needed stability to the club along with a global reach that reflects the club’s true status. It is yet another demonstration to Mr Ashley that his last act could well be his best for the club – appoint Alan now and we believe that the club will become a more saleable asset which will allow him to walk away from the club knowing that he has done the right thing in the end’. NUSC membership is growing daily on the back of their joint campaign with the Chronicle and have gained over 300 members from various countries including 52 from Italy. http://www.nusc.org.uk/full_news.php?newsid=73 More than half now Roger. I thought NUSC had made it clear that they would only speak for their membership, so what's with the claim of effective backing from 99.9% of supporters in this latest press release? That easy enough for you to read peasepud? You have no right to speak for fans who haven't signed the petition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 So you dont want them to appoint Shearer then? you're happy with the current situation? Us saying that we believe that the messages of support received by us and the Chronicle for Shearer to be signed doesnt reflect the general mood of the fans? You reckon that theres at least 250 fans out there (working on a very conservative estimate of 250,000 NUFC fans worldwide) that will be pissed off if we announced Shearer as manager do you? We're not claiming that we're speaking for all the fans, we're saying that we believe that the emails we've received reflect the mood of almost all the fans. We're also not linking the 99.9% to the petition, you've done that. We make it clear (as someone nicely pointed out in big letters) that we believe the "messages of support" reflect the vast majority of fans views. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 That easy enough for you to read peasepud? You have no right to speak for fans who haven't signed the petition. They aren't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 So you dont want them to appoint Shearer then? you're happy with the current situation? Us saying that we believe that the messages of support received by us and the Chronicle for Shearer to be signed doesnt reflect the general mood of the fans? You reckon that theres at least 250 fans out there (working on a very conservative estimate of 250,000 NUFC fans worldwide) that will be pissed off if we announced Shearer as manager do you? We're not claiming that we're speaking for all the fans, we're saying that we believe that the emails we've received reflect the mood of almost all the fans. We're also not linking the 99.9% to the petition, you've done that. We make it clear (as someone nicely pointed out in big letters) that we believe the "messages of support" reflect the vast majority of fans views. To be honest, I'm sure that more than .1% of the fan base are a bit perturbed by the Shearer or no-one else mentality, we need a good manager that is backed by the board. Shearer is a candidate, but I fear that if we keep harping on about Shearer, and then someone equally credible comes in, that manager has already lost. Basically even with the 'we believe' caveat in, you are presenting a fact that can be used by yourself and your fellow spin doctors however you like, and can be interpreted in many different ways by different people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 "yourself and your fellow spin doctors " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 So you dont want them to appoint Shearer then? you're happy with the current situation? Us saying that we believe that the messages of support received by us and the Chronicle for Shearer to be signed doesnt reflect the general mood of the fans? You reckon that theres at least 250 fans out there (working on a very conservative estimate of 250,000 NUFC fans worldwide) that will be pissed off if we announced Shearer as manager do you? We're not claiming that we're speaking for all the fans, we're saying that we believe that the emails we've received reflect the mood of almost all the fans. We're also not linking the 99.9% to the petition, you've done that. We make it clear (as someone nicely pointed out in big letters) that we believe the "messages of support" reflect the vast majority of fans views. Get away, you say that in your opinion 99.9% of supporters echo the sentiments of the petition. How is that not in any way linked? It was a concern right from the start that you addressed by saying that, no you would only speak for your membership, yet here you are in a press release using a sample of emails sent to you to make assumptions about all of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 So do you want them to appoint a manager now? yes or no? how many fans do you know that dont want them to appoint a manager and would prefer to start the season with Hughton in charge? So now we've cleared that up, you have two choices in getting a manager in you can either: scoure the globe for a suitable candidate then try and convince them to take on a job for a football club which is currently in the process of being sold and where 3 of the alleged bidders have already stated Shearer would be the manager if they took over. Forgetting the fact that any manager taking the job under those circumstances would either be stupid or just after the money the process would clearly take a number of weeks meaning we start the season without a manager so thats out of the window. which leaves option 2: take a manger who has already stated that they want the job, now how many managers have done that? I'll save you the hassle of looking it up, its 2. Alan Shearer and Joe Kinnear. So the options are appoint Alan Shearer or Joe Kinnear as manager of our football club. No brainer. In an ideal world Alan Shearer would not be the only candidate and we'd have our pick of the worlds best managers. Its not an ideal world, we are not Barcelona, Man U, Chelsea or Real Madrid. We are Newcastle United, a crumbling mess of a Championship football club without any leadership at boardroom level, a club that is the laughing stock of English football if not a lot further. A club which changed manager 4 times last season (and at one stage had 4 managers on the books at the same time yet still got relegated) and the only football club in three years of the entire football league that thought Joe Kinnear was a viable prospect to manage them. Forget the Geodie nation shite or the realistic but unmeasurable factor that Shearer understands the area, the club and the fans, forget the fact he was our greatest ever striker and that he stook by us for years winning nowt. None of that is important, what is important now is that we get a manager on board immediately and Shearer is the only plausible candidate we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 So do you want them to appoint a manager now? yes or no? how many fans do you know that dont want them to appoint a manager and would prefer to start the season with Hughton in charge? So now we've cleared that up, you have two choices in getting a manager in you can either: scoure the globe for a suitable candidate then try and convince them to take on a job for a football club which is currently in the process of being sold and where 3 of the alleged bidders have already stated Shearer would be the manager if they took over. Forgetting the fact that any manager taking the job under those circumstances would either be stupid or just after the money the process would clearly take a number of weeks meaning we start the season without a manager so thats out of the window. which leaves option 2: take a manger who has already stated that they want the job, now how many managers have done that? I'll save you the hassle of looking it up, its 2. Alan Shearer and Joe Kinnear. So the options are appoint Alan Shearer or Joe Kinnear as manager of our football club. No brainer. In an ideal world Alan Shearer would not be the only candidate and we'd have our pick of the worlds best managers. Its not an ideal world, we are not Barcelona, Man U, Chelsea or Real Madrid. We are Newcastle United, a crumbling mess of a Championship football club without any leadership at boardroom level, a club that is the laughing stock of English football if not a lot further. A club which changed manager 4 times last season (and at one stage had 4 managers on the books at the same time yet still got relegated) and the only football club in three years of the entire football league that thought Joe Kinnear was a viable prospect to manage them. Forget the Geodie nation shite or the realistic but unmeasurable factor that Shearer understands the area, the club and the fans, forget the fact he was our greatest ever striker and that he stook by us for years winning nowt. None of that is important, what is important now is that we get a manager on board immediately and Shearer is the only plausible candidate we have. Your argument is based on many assumptions from stuff you've read in the paper that may not be true. It is just as likely that Shearer has refused to put pen to paper under the success will follow, be it Shearer, or alternatively a promising and proven manager such as Paul Tisdale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Your argument is based on many assumptions from stuff you've read in the paper that may not be true. It is just as likely that Shearer has refused to put pen to paper under the success will follow, be it Shearer, or alternatively a promising and proven manager such as Paul Tisdale. is there any chance you could string that into an actual sentence thats readable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Your argument is based on many assumptions from stuff you've read in the paper that may not be true. It is just as likely that Shearer has refused to put pen to paper under the success will follow, be it Shearer, or alternatively a promising and proven manager such as Paul Tisdale. is there any chance you could string that into an actual sentence thats readable? Apologies, I somehow managed to delete a few words. Edit: wireless keyboard batteries Your argument is based on many assumptions from stuff you've read in the paper that may not be true. It is just as likely that Shearer has refused to put pen to paper due to the circumstances you state. What is most important is that there is a boad in place who will give backing to the manager, under which the success will follow, be it Shearer, or alternatively a promising and proven manager such as Paul Tisdale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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