Joey Barton

[JH]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14650167.stm

 

Looks so unhappy in this interview it's untrue.

 

 

It's pretty much clear as day that he really doesn't want to be there.

 

Could have stayed where he was adored for another year, proved to the top clubs that last year wasn't a one-off in terms of fitness, form, discipline, etc. and at least got a move to a mid-table club.

 

And then got injured and end up out of a job. Good plan

[Sifu]

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Looks so unhappy in this interview it's untrue.

 

 

It's pretty much clear as day that he really doesn't want to be there.

 

Could have stayed where he was adored for another year, proved to the top clubs that last year wasn't a one-off in terms of fitness, form, discipline, etc. and at least got a move to a mid-table club.

 

Definitely. I'm disappointed in him in this aspect.

[Optimistic Nut]

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Looks so unhappy in this interview it's untrue.

 

 

It's pretty much clear as day that he really doesn't want to be there.

 

Could have stayed where he was adored for another year, proved to the top clubs that last year wasn't a one-off in terms of fitness, form, discipline, etc. and at least got a move to a mid-table club.

 

And then got injured and end up out of a job. Good plan

 

Or he could have taken the 3-years we offered him then in the first place.

[SimplyAnth]

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Looks so unhappy in this interview it's untrue.

 

 

It's pretty much clear as day that he really doesn't want to be there.

 

Could have stayed where he was adored for another year, proved to the top clubs that last year wasn't a one-off in terms of fitness, form, discipline, etc. and at least got a move to a mid-table club.

 

And then got injured and end up out of a job. Good plan

 

Do players get compensation and that if they suffer a big injury in those circumstances? I might have just made that up, not sure.

[David28]

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Looks so unhappy in this interview it's untrue.

 

 

It's pretty much clear as day that he really doesn't want to be there.

 

Could have stayed where he was adored for another year, proved to the top clubs that last year wasn't a one-off in terms of fitness, form, discipline, etc. and at least got a move to a mid-table club.

 

And then got injured and end up out of a job. Good plan

 

Or he could have taken the 3-years we offered him then in the first place.

 

As I've said before, everyone makes mistakes.

 

If he really was offered 3 years on decent wages he'll be close to shooting himself in his great-haircut-head now.

[David28]

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Looks so unhappy in this interview it's untrue.

 

 

It's pretty much clear as day that he really doesn't want to be there.

 

Could have stayed where he was adored for another year, proved to the top clubs that last year wasn't a one-off in terms of fitness, form, discipline, etc. and at least got a move to a mid-table club.

 

And then got injured and end up out of a job. Good plan

 

Do players get compensation and that if they suffer a big injury in those circumstances? I might have just made that up, not sure.

 

Don't think so.

 

Just ask Hargreaves. If he ends up without a contract, he'll be some kind of Canadian TV expert, probably.

[Cajun]

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Looks so unhappy in this interview it's untrue.

 

 

It's pretty much clear as day that he really doesn't want to be there.

 

Could have stayed where he was adored for another year, proved to the top clubs that last year wasn't a one-off in terms of fitness, form, discipline, etc. and at least got a move to a mid-table club.

 

And then got injured and end up out of a job. Good plan

 

Do players get compensation and that if they suffer a big injury in those circumstances? I might have just made that up, not sure.

 

Yeah, not sure how it's worked out but I had personal injury insurance so I am pretty sure these players will have something

[JH]

I doubt he was even offered that length of contract tbh.

 

The least they could have done is negotiate. We've shown in the Charlton saga that we aren't the best to deal with.

[Frazzle]

The crux of it for me is quite simply this:

 

Over the last season or two, for me our top performers have been Coloccini, Carroll, Nolan, Barton, Enrique and Tiote.

 

And now two of the six remain

 

It's certainly a big gamble on Cabaye, Ba and Pieters.

 

I don't think we will replace Barton tbh.

 

Could go either way.

 

Whilst there is evidence pointing to the fact that Barton would do well this year, there's no guarantee.  Same with Nolan. 

[Optimistic Nut]

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Looks so unhappy in this interview it's untrue.

 

 

It's pretty much clear as day that he really doesn't want to be there.

 

Could have stayed where he was adored for another year, proved to the top clubs that last year wasn't a one-off in terms of fitness, form, discipline, etc. and at least got a move to a mid-table club.

 

And then got injured and end up out of a job. Good plan

 

Or he could have taken the 3-years we offered him then in the first place.

 

As I've said before, everyone makes mistakes.

 

If he really was offered 3 years on decent wages he'll be close to shooting himself in his great-haircut-head now.

 

Which might explain why he's so gutted at this. I'd shoot McKay if I was him.

[David28]

I doubt he was even offered that length of contract tbh.

 

The least they could have done is negotiate. We've shown in the Charlton saga that we aren't the best to deal with.

 

Think the same. He wouldn't have turned it down in January if the length would have been ok.

 

After all, we found out that Owen was offered a 1 year extension only as well by Llambias the time KK was in charge. No wonder he didn't take it.

[David28]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14650167.stm

 

Looks so unhappy in this interview it's untrue.

 

 

It's pretty much clear as day that he really doesn't want to be there.

 

Could have stayed where he was adored for another year, proved to the top clubs that last year wasn't a one-off in terms of fitness, form, discipline, etc. and at least got a move to a mid-table club.

 

And then got injured and end up out of a job. Good plan

 

Or he could have taken the 3-years we offered him then in the first place.

 

As I've said before, everyone makes mistakes.

 

If he really was offered 3 years on decent wages he'll be close to shooting himself in his great-haircut-head now.

 

Which might explain why he's so gutted at this. I'd shoot McKay if I was him.

 

Obviously could be the case. But as I've said before today, we'll probably never find out the truth on that one. We'll probably never know what contract he's been offered in January.

 

After all, he's only been a NUFC player and the show must (and will) go on.

[Guest ObiChrisKenobi]

Geordie Nation. 

[tmonkey]

Not really sure about the continued references to his first couple of years here. Yes they were s***, but that's way in the past. Last season he was one of our best players, and was actually voted the best in the Chronicle's unofficial player of the year award. He made a decent start to this season too. That's what we're losing, not the Barton from two/three years ago.

 

But using your same line of thought, couldn't one argue that that was last season, i.e. in a virtually different team with different players, and hence there are no guarantees that Barton would be as good this season and beyond?

[David28]

Not really sure about the continued references to his first couple of years here. Yes they were s***, but that's way in the past. Last season he was one of our best players, and was actually voted the best in the Chronicle's unofficial player of the year award. He made a decent start to this season too. That's what we're losing, not the Barton from two/three years ago.

 

But using your same line of thought, couldn't one argue that that was last season, i.e. in a virtually different team with different players, and hence there are no guarantees that Barton would be as good this season and beyond?

 

Is there a guarantee about any player in this world?

[Optimistic Nut]

Not really sure about the continued references to his first couple of years here. Yes they were s***, but that's way in the past. Last season he was one of our best players, and was actually voted the best in the Chronicle's unofficial player of the year award. He made a decent start to this season too. That's what we're losing, not the Barton from two/three years ago.

 

But using your same line of thought, couldn't one argue that that was last season, i.e. in a virtually different team with different players, and hence there are no guarantees that Barton would be as good this season and beyond?

 

Aye, he'd done nowt for 3 years, there's no guarantee whatsoever that he could keep up last season's form, and in particular on the sort of contract he seemingly wanted.

[black_n_white]

The crux of it for me is quite simply this:

 

Over the last season or two, for me our top performers have been Coloccini, Carroll, Nolan, Barton, Enrique and Tiote.

 

And now two of the six remain

 

This

[Guest sicko2ndbest]

The BBC interview is a great candid interview

 

Love the last question

 

BBC 'A Football club needs a director'

 

JB 'Without the artists on the pitch the director is nothing'

 

or similar words to that effect

[Optimistic Nut]

The crux of it for me is quite simply this:

 

Over the last season or two, for me our top performers have been Coloccini, Carroll, Nolan, Barton, Enrique and Tiote.

 

And now two of the six remain

 

This

 

It depends on the replacements surely? In a short space of time Man Utd lost Ronaldo, Tevez & Pique. As long as they're replaced correctly then we should be fine. I'm happy with Cabaye for Nolan, Marveaux for Barton, Enrique's replacement seems like it's going to be better than the likes of Bridge & Shorey which a lot of people were fearing, leaving the centre-forward position to be sorted.

[Guest bimpy474]

The crux of it for me is quite simply this:

 

Over the last season or two, for me our top performers have been Coloccini, Carroll, Nolan, Barton, Enrique and Tiote.

 

And now two of the six remain

 

This

 

It depends on the replacements surely? In a short space of time Man Utd lost Ronaldo, Tevez & Pique. As long as they're replaced correctly then we should be fine. I'm happy with Cabaye for Nolan, Marveaux for Barton, Enrique's replacement seems like it's going to be better than the likes of Bridge & Shorey which a lot of people were fearing, leaving the centre-forward position to be sorted.

 

This

[JH]

Cabaye for Nolan in terms of quality is good, in terms of goals the jury is still out. We haven't replaced Carroll, Barton or Enrique yet.

 

Pieters there is still question over until he actually signs and plays for us, Marveaux isn't a right winger (neither is Obertan) so isn't really Barton's replacement and we are still short of a striker.

 

Big big five days to come.

[Optimistic Nut]

Marveaux's no less a right midfielder than Barton was this time last year.

[black_n_white]

The crux of it for me is quite simply this:

 

Over the last season or two, for me our top performers have been Coloccini, Carroll, Nolan, Barton, Enrique and Tiote.

 

And now two of the six remain

 

This

 

It depends on the replacements surely? In a short space of time Man Utd lost Ronaldo, Tevez & Pique. As long as they're replaced correctly then we should be fine. I'm happy with Cabaye for Nolan, Marveaux for Barton, Enrique's replacement seems like it's going to be better than the likes of Bridge & Shorey which a lot of people were fearing, leaving the centre-forward position to be sorted.

 

This

 

Now that's a question!

[Frazzle]

Cabaye for Nolan in terms of quality is good, in terms of goals the jury is still out. We haven't replaced Carroll, Barton or Enrique yet.

 

Pieters there is still question over until he actually signs and plays for us, Marveaux isn't a right winger (neither is Obertan) so isn't really Barton's replacement and we are still short of a striker.

 

Big big five days to come.

 

What would convince you that Carroll had been replaced?  Striker with similar goal record? striker with PL experience?  big striker who is good in the air?

[Unbelievable]

Not really sure about the continued references to his first couple of years here. Yes they were s***, but that's way in the past. Last season he was one of our best players, and was actually voted the best in the Chronicle's unofficial player of the year award. He made a decent start to this season too. That's what we're losing, not the Barton from two/three years ago.

 

But using your same line of thought, couldn't one argue that that was last season, i.e. in a virtually different team with different players, and hence there are no guarantees that Barton would be as good this season and beyond?

 

Aye, he'd done nowt for 3 years, there's no guarantee whatsoever that he could keep up last season's form, and in particular on the sort of contract he seemingly wanted.

 

What's the sort of "contract he seemingly wanted" got to do with whether or not he would achieve last season's form this season? He started off fairly well, and I would say that more often than not players in the final year of their contract step it up a notch to secure their future rather than lowering their level.