SGSC Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Players on the bench will get their chances when starting players play consistently poor. Sure Williamson made a bad mistake tonight that cost us a goal, but other than that, he has been great for the most part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 That's the worst article i've ever seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Maybe it is time to give Sol a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGSC Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 linked with spurs http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/162462/MIKE-Williams-iS-SPUR-FECT/? If Harry had someone at tonights game watching him, we've got nothing to worry about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 linked with spurs http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/162462/MIKE-Williams-iS-SPUR-FECT/? If Harry had someone at tonights game watching him, we've got nothing to worry about. Really going to sell our first choice English center back who's having a very good season for 4m aren't we? :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Poor game littered with cock-ups, much like the Wigan one. I got slated for comparing him to Bramble a while back but he's the one player i'd stick him in the same category as. He's steady and reliable 80% of the time and when he's comfortable, he looks really comfortable. He's prone to individual error though, especially at home. I'd still stick with him in the long-run though - without a doubt. He, along with others, are bound to need a rest on Saturday though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 I think he's the opposite to Titus in many ways. Williamson's best attribute is his consistently. He's steady, a bit like Aaron Hughes before he stepped it up for Fulham. Ultimately not the answer, but he'll do for now, preferably as backup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 He doesn't have the same raw defensive attributes that Bramble had, but i think they both harbour the same '95%-reliable-5%-mistake' trait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 With Titus it was lack of concentration and intelligence. With Williamson i can't help but think he's a little bit out of his depth starting every single game for a PL club with mid-table aspirations. Case in point; the ball was knocked towards him on the near-side on about 70 minutes last night. He could have taken a touch and passed up sideways or knocked it long. Instead, he swiped it out of play. He knows his limitations, so did Scott Parker. Parker got early praise for getting the basics right and demonstrating consistency in a position that was crying out for it. In time, we turned on Parker and his sideways passing, just like Williamson will eventually be criticised for his complete lack of pace and ability with the ball. And he'll make mistakes leading to goals, simply because his best attributes aren't actually that great. I wish people on here would keep it real, keep it fair. I like the lad. He's ok, he'll make a fair few mistakes - as average defenders generally do. Sol Campbell just might be the better option, let's see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 I'd have Campbell in for the Fulham game anyway, like i say, purely for fitness reasons. If Sol performs amazingly well i'd keep him in the side, but Willicini has done admirably for the majority of the season and, in spite of tonight, i still don't see a burning need to break up the partnership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Agree with ronaldo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 I agree with Ronaldo too. I'm pleased with Williamson but he does make a few mistakes which fans have given him the benefit of the doubt for. As I just mentioned in the home form thread we have conceded two goals in 4 of our 6 home games - it's not good enough, we can't be needing 3 goals to win all the time. Perch can't be a scapegoat any more. Coloccini for my money is a better defender and all round player than Williamson. I would like to see Taylor or Campbell given a chance alongside him. I'd give Campbell a go, as I think he'll be a better organiser and Taylor can provide competition with Simpson at right back. The truth is we are conceding sloppy goals and we can't keep saying "he's steady, done nowt wrong" when we concede two at home every week. I'm not singling Williamson out but I think we may have better options on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Well, i don't want to jump on him because of the goal last night. He was waiting to see what would happen with Colo and then had to make a jump from standing and lost out. Not great but Colo was the cause of the problem, that's just the plain and simple fact of the matter. Neither Williamson nor Krul did anything out of the ordinary to save the situation and so they scored. I like Williamson because he's normally fairly sound positioning wise, hasn't got much pace, isn't as strong as i expected given his height. I think he's a bit of an opposite to Steven Taylor actually, who has a better turn of pace and would of probably beaten Roberts to the ball yesterday. However, STaylor isn't so hot positionally, especially when the ball goes wide and Williamson often keeps a better body shape, on the turn, giving himself options. Still very happy with Williamson, he's more than worth his price. Last night was just one of those things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 He made one error really. He got done by the same long ball Colo failed to deal with, the pair of them need to take responsibility. I thought he was pretty decent in the air last which is where the main threat came from. He was limited on the ball but then we known that for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 For once I also agree with Ronaldo. The guy is really limited but will do until Campbel proves he's better. I'd play Campbell now this weekend if he isn't injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 I think he's the opposite to Titus in many ways. Williamson's best attribute is his consistently. He's steady, a bit like Aaron Hughes before he stepped it up for Fulham. Ultimately not the answer, but he'll do for now, preferably as backup. Good comparison, I agree, he has his limitations and he knows them- He will work his best to be a steady defender, although little more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Had to turn Total Sport off tonight on my way home - someone phoned in stating that Williamson was rubbish, and has been rubbish all season. Can't pass, can't tackle properly, and can't play with the ball at his feet - only wants to head it. Even said he was 'an atrotious defender', and needed to be dropped. John Carver (sitting in for John Anderson) was agreeing with him! Wasn't Ronaldo off of here, was it?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Yeah, those views practically mirror my own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mantis Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 if sol is the answer, what exactly is the question? dont see any way sol could play game in game out. having a more set lineup has been a positive for me. to compare williamson with bramble is a joke. bramble would be lucky to play two games without screwing up or racking up 20 punts into touch. colo and williamson are a good pairing compared to the shite we have had to watch in recent years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mantis Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Had to turn Total Sport off tonight on my way home - someone phoned in stating that Williamson was rubbish, and has been rubbish all season. Can't pass, can't tackle properly, and can't play with the ball at his feet - only wants to head it. Even said he was 'an atrotious defender', and needed to be dropped. John Carver (sitting in for John Anderson) was agreeing with him! Wasn't Ronaldo off of here, was it?? The world is full of drunks and peyter reids fluffers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Bramble's made one costly error at Sunderland and three at Wigan in the last 2 years or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 I'd certainly have Sol in for the Bolton game also...think he'd deal with Davies better than Williamson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mantis Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Bramble's made one costly error at Sunderland and three at Wigan in the last 2 years or so. good for him. spent many awful years here driving me mad and i was glad to avoid his performances at wigan and safc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Well, i don't want to jump on him because of the goal last night. He was waiting to see what would happen with Colo and then had to make a jump from standing and lost out. Not great but Colo was the cause of the problem, that's just the plain and simple fact of the matter. Neither Williamson nor Krul did anything out of the ordinary to save the situation and so they scored. I like Williamson because he's normally fairly sound positioning wise, hasn't got much pace, isn't as strong as i expected given his height. I think he's a bit of an opposite to Steven Taylor actually, who has a better turn of pace and would of probably beaten Roberts to the ball yesterday. However, STaylor isn't so hot positionally, especially when the ball goes wide and Williamson often keeps a better body shape, on the turn, giving himself options. Still very happy with Williamson, he's more than worth his price. Last night was just one of those things. I'd agree with this. Roberts is an experienced player and did just enough, within what refs tend to allow, to stop Colo and Williamson getting a proper challenge on the ball, which then broke very kindly for him. Colo allowed himself to get muscled onto the wrong side of the attacker, which was a fault we saw many times in his first season, but not so much now. I wouldn't consider dropping Williamson. He's a very calm defender who is decisive and takes responsibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 I wouldn't drop him for the next game...wont do his confidence any good. Colo and Willi have done well so far and deserve another chance to make up for it..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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