Guest VegasToon Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Bump. Just because I don't think we will sign him until we reach 300. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 We'll probably keep Smith until January tbh and then sell or loan out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 If that was Smith's last game for us, not a bad way to go out. Best game in a black & white shirt. Agreed. Him and Barton dominated in midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taps01 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 L'equipe seem to think he is close to joining werder. No quotes mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Yeah just seen that. Reckon we're still interested but he's closer to a move to Werder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/breves2010/20100823_092338_ben-arfa-pres-de-breme.html It's funny, after yesterday I've actually started to wonder if we're better off looking elsewhere anyway. I'm a bit torn on this one to be honest. On the one hand he's a very talented young creative midfielder, which is exactly what the team needs. But on the other hand he's another disruptive, self-obsessed moany french wanker who may well cause a rift in our harmonious team spirit. I won't be too disappointed if we don't sign him but I will be disappointed if we don't get another creative midfielder instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garth Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I get the feeling he's fucking us about to foster a better deal with the Germans. You may be right I think it could be better to search for some one else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrenchWilliam Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Big fall out between HBA's agent and father. Father accusing agent of brainwashing HBA and trying to make money out of him, agent accusing father of making threats to him, Deschamps and HBA. http://www.maxifoot.fr/football/article-10330.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning_Linguist Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Do we NEED this sort of shit at our club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papo Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Do we NEED this sort of s*** at our club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Yeah, I dunno, I went into the game yesterday hoping that we would sign him, but I came out of the game thinking it may be better to find someone who isn't a disruptive influence (even if that means that they aren't quite as good as him). Don't get me wrong, I'd still be pleased if we signed him, but aslong as we get a decent creative player I don't mind so much. Same. I'm probably being blinded by yesterday's performance though, fully admit that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Yeah, I dunno, I went into the game yesterday hoping that we would sign him, but I came out of the game thinking it may be better to find someone who isn't a disruptive influence (even if that means that they aren't quite as good as him). Don't get me wrong, I'd still be pleased if we signed him, but aslong as we get a decent creative player I don't mind so much. Same. I'm probably being blinded by yesterday's performance though, fully admit that. Agree Yesterday, whilst fantastic, has a danger of overshadowing our need for a bit more invention. HBA may be the answer, he may not, but our need for a playmaker is vital. Problem is, along with strikers, they cost the most! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I don't give a fuck anymore, just want this to end one way or another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadsword Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I don't give a f*** anymore, just want this to end one way or another. Its ended, it ended last week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jeffers09 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I still have a feeling there's one more twist yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Big fall out between HBA's agent and father. Father accusing agent of brainwashing HBA and trying to make money out of him, agent accusing father of making threats to him, Deschamps and HBA. http://www.maxifoot.fr/football/article-10330.htm Throughout all this, it's been questionable who Ben Arfa's agent has been acting for. If Ben Arfa wants to join Newcastle, even if the agent thinks that's unwise, he's obliged to try to carry that out on his behalf. It's the player who instructs the agent, not the other way round. As it is, the agent seems to have been acting on behalf of OM to try and secure a move to a different club, where both OM and the agent would benefit more financially. That's why we've got this impasse. It's a very unusual situation, and therefore hard to predict. I still think that, in the end, things will fall our way. It's a battle for this poor young man's soul, and his Dad, his agent and his club President are all failing him. Step up Chris, with your air of calm authority. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 It would have been nice if this whole saga had moved along while I was too busy waxing lyrical about our performance yesterday, but alas..no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I've gone from wanting him here, to being really unsure. His talent can't be questioned, but he seems miles away from being right mentally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I've gone from wanting him here, to being really unsure. His talent can't be questioned, but he seems miles away from being right mentally. Pot, kettle, black? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca888 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I don't give a f*** anymore, just want this to end one way or another. Its ended, it ended last week. This and even possibly before that due to hios alleged outrageous wage demands. Leave well alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I've gone from wanting him here, to being really unsure. His talent can't be questioned, but he seems miles away from being right mentally. Good one Stuart. Please highlight the part of either post in which either of us were referring specifically and solely to the profession of football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I am pissed off with it all now, I think he is just a big of a part of the trouble as OM and we are. The entire thing is getting really silly. His wage demands, OM's deal type the expect us to do. Our holding out to try and make it a last minute deal so we can push it as far as we can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/breves2010/20100823_092338_ben-arfa-pres-de-breme.html It's funny, after yesterday I've actually started to wonder if we're better off looking elsewhere anyway. The problem that I have with that is if we end with someone like Santa Cruz instead. It happened with Moses where we ended up buying a totally different type of striker when it wasn't what we needed. Ben Arfa is the type of player Arsenal would buy, skill and pace. How many good young strikers of that type are available in our price range? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Yeah, I dunno, I went into the game yesterday hoping that we would sign him, but I came out of the game thinking it may be better to find someone who isn't a disruptive influence (even if that means that they aren't quite as good as him). Don't get me wrong, I'd still be pleased if we signed him, but aslong as we get a decent creative player I don't mind so much. Same. I'm probably being blinded by yesterday's performance though, fully admit that. This. We need a creative midfielder here as the gap still needs plugging away from home, but I wouldn't be overly fussed if it wasn't HBA. There's plenty more fish in the sea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I started off dead opposed to this transfer. I couldn’t see why he wanted to join us, or why things would work out better with us than it had with his two previous clubs. However, despite a lot of pressure and what looks like opportunities to move elsewhere, the player hasn’t budged. If anything, the relationship between the player and those opposing the move to NUFC (OM and his agent) seems to have deteriorated. If Ben Arfa wins the game of chicken and he moves to us, then he will have taken a lot of personal responsibility in bringing it about. He will have no one to blame but himself if it ends in the same problems, so he’ll have a big incentive to knuckle down and make it work. Why he’s chosen us is unclear but he does seem to have a lot of confidence in Hughton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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