midds Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Who's going to convince him? The blokes who've just sold Carroll? Hopefully the blokes who spend the £35 million. Got very little hope that the £35m is going back into strengthening the team tbh. It'll pay a few bills but can't see us shelling out £35m in the summer on players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Why not worry about this in the summer? No point in ruining 4 months of football fretting over something like this. He's ours till then no matter what. Is it going to be like this every time we get a decent player through the doors? Or are we just so used to signing shite upon shite we can't handle having decent players at the club? And if good footballers wanting to prove themselves see us as a stepping stone off selling the like of Carroll and Tiote for daft money then so be it, as there will come a time when we can hold on to them for good and hopefully if we've done it right we've got a really healthy bank balance in the process. Yep. Buy low, sell high. It's the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Why not worry about this in the summer? No point in ruining 4 months of football fretting over something like this. He's ours till then no matter what. Is it going to be like this every time we get a decent player through the doors? Or are we just so used to signing s**** upon s**** we can't handle having decent players at the club? And if good footballers wanting to prove themselves see us as a stepping stone off selling the like of Carroll and Tiote for daft money then so be it, as there will come a time when we can hold on to them for good and hopefully if we've done it right we've got a really healthy bank balance in the process. Yep. Buy low, sell high. It's the future. could say that how spurs got where they are...buy...sell for a profit. if you can do it enough you move up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Why not worry about this in the summer? No point in ruining 4 months of football fretting over something like this. He's ours till then no matter what. Is it going to be like this every time we get a decent player through the doors? Or are we just so used to signing shite upon shite we can't handle having decent players at the club? And if good footballers wanting to prove themselves see us as a stepping stone off selling the like of Carroll and Tiote for daft money then so be it, as there will come a time when we can hold on to them for good and hopefully if we've done it right we've got a really healthy bank balance in the process. Yep. Buy low, sell high. It's the future. It's the future for everyone, especially with the new financial rules coming in. Tottenham's revolving door has been in action for several years and they are now CL contenders, it works when done correctly. Selling Andy Carroll for £35m+ after he handed in a transfer request is doing it correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Got very little hope that the £35m is going back into strengthening the team tbh. It'll pay a few bills but can't see us shelling out £35m in the summer on players. I was being partially sarcastic, I think it would send a message to our players though if we did it. I'm sure Llambias said we were close to breaking even, if that's the case then it might be a good time to do something with the money that came from the Carroll sale as I doubt that we were £35 million away from doing so. The European ruling about having to break even should give us a massive advantage over a lot of teams, Chelsea are -£50 million now so they might actually struggle to qualify for Europe if they carry on like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Why not worry about this in the summer? No point in ruining 4 months of football fretting over something like this. He's ours till then no matter what. Is it going to be like this every time we get a decent player through the doors? Or are we just so used to signing s**** upon s**** we can't handle having decent players at the club? And if good footballers wanting to prove themselves see us as a stepping stone off selling the like of Carroll and Tiote for daft money then so be it, as there will come a time when we can hold on to them for good and hopefully if we've done it right we've got a really healthy bank balance in the process. Yep. Buy low, sell high. It's the future. could say that how spurs got where they are...buy...sell for a profit. if you can do it enough you move up. They pumped the money back into the squad though and kept buying/speculating. Remains to be seen if we do the same. The quotes from Pardew don't suggest we're prepared to do the same. How long before Enrique is looking to be away? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 It looks like the European ruling starts from next season and is a rolling 3 year period and you can have a £38 million loss over that period than it's reduced to £26 million for the next 3 years then it will be reduced again. Still, it means that from next season things should become a lot easier as large transfer fee's and wages will cause some clubs problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I don't have faith in UEFA to properly enforce these new rules though. If they were to pull it off though it should change the game for the better like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 There will be loopholes and they will be exploited. The big clubs will find a way to circumnavigate the rules one way or another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Why not worry about this in the summer? No point in ruining 4 months of football fretting over something like this. He's ours till then no matter what. Is it going to be like this every time we get a decent player through the doors? Or are we just so used to signing s**** upon s**** we can't handle having decent players at the club? And if good footballers wanting to prove themselves see us as a stepping stone off selling the like of Carroll and Tiote for daft money then so be it, as there will come a time when we can hold on to them for good and hopefully if we've done it right we've got a really healthy bank balance in the process. Yep. Buy low, sell high. It's the future. could say that how spurs got where they are...buy...sell for a profit. if you can do it enough you move up. They pumped the money back into the squad though and kept buying/speculating. Remains to be seen if we do the same. The quotes from Pardew don't suggest we're prepared to do the same. How long before Enrique is looking to be away? It remains to be seen because of this new mantra we've seen one player leave for a British transfer record might I add. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Big clubs will be on UEFA's back to punish the clubs breaking the rules. All of the big clubs agreed to these rules, why would the back out now? Some big clubs have already started preparing and so as soon as UEFA try to bend the rules other massive clubs will complain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Why not worry about this in the summer? No point in ruining 4 months of football fretting over something like this. He's ours till then no matter what. Is it going to be like this every time we get a decent player through the doors? Or are we just so used to signing s**** upon s**** we can't handle having decent players at the club? And if good footballers wanting to prove themselves see us as a stepping stone off selling the like of Carroll and Tiote for daft money then so be it, as there will come a time when we can hold on to them for good and hopefully if we've done it right we've got a really healthy bank balance in the process. Yep. Buy low, sell high. It's the future. could say that how spurs got where they are...buy...sell for a profit. if you can do it enough you move up. They pumped the money back into the squad though and kept buying/speculating. Remains to be seen if we do the same. The quotes from Pardew don't suggest we're prepared to do the same. How long before Enrique is looking to be away? It remains to be seen because of this new mantra we've seen one player leave for a British transfer record might I add. Hypothetical: Man U come in and bid £12m for Enrique. You reckon they'd turn it down? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRMSIwn3pTe_7rX-b0tH326J3WmhCucXXHhVb4AcCiru2o7MVMR6Q http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQRYTwpB10FdENjK5ybKL5lkHRjRtKs0kD_-nssYREILqqXX6zP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Why not worry about this in the summer? No point in ruining 4 months of football fretting over something like this. He's ours till then no matter what. Is it going to be like this every time we get a decent player through the doors? Or are we just so used to signing s**** upon s**** we can't handle having decent players at the club? And if good footballers wanting to prove themselves see us as a stepping stone off selling the like of Carroll and Tiote for daft money then so be it, as there will come a time when we can hold on to them for good and hopefully if we've done it right we've got a really healthy bank balance in the process. Yep. Buy low, sell high. It's the future. could say that how spurs got where they are...buy...sell for a profit. if you can do it enough you move up. They pumped the money back into the squad though and kept buying/speculating. Remains to be seen if we do the same. The quotes from Pardew don't suggest we're prepared to do the same. How long before Enrique is looking to be away? It remains to be seen because of this new mantra we've seen one player leave for a British transfer record might I add. Hypothetical: Man U come in and bid £12m for Enrique. You reckon they'd turn it down? at 12mill....yes, i think you would. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 There will be loopholes and they will be exploited. The big clubs will find a way to circumnavigate the rules one way or another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Why not worry about this in the summer? No point in ruining 4 months of football fretting over something like this. He's ours till then no matter what. Is it going to be like this every time we get a decent player through the doors? Or are we just so used to signing s**** upon s**** we can't handle having decent players at the club? And if good footballers wanting to prove themselves see us as a stepping stone off selling the like of Carroll and Tiote for daft money then so be it, as there will come a time when we can hold on to them for good and hopefully if we've done it right we've got a really healthy bank balance in the process. Yep. Buy low, sell high. It's the future. could say that how spurs got where they are...buy...sell for a profit. if you can do it enough you move up. They pumped the money back into the squad though and kept buying/speculating. Remains to be seen if we do the same. The quotes from Pardew don't suggest we're prepared to do the same. How long before Enrique is looking to be away? It remains to be seen because of this new mantra we've seen one player leave for a British transfer record might I add. Hypothetical: Man U come in and bid £12m for Enrique. You reckon they'd turn it down? at 12mill....yes, i think you would. I would? Or they would? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Who's going to convince him? The blokes who've just sold Carroll? Hopefully the blokes who spend the £35 million. Got very little hope that the £35m is going back into strengthening the team tbh. It'll pay a few bills but can't see us shelling out £35m in the summer on players. The summer window will be a big test of the believability of the messages from Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 There will be loopholes and they will be exploited. The big clubs will find a way to circumnavigate the rules one way or another. Even when other big clubs are abiding by the rules and seeing their peers exploit them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 There will be loopholes and they will be exploited. The big clubs will find a way to circumnavigate the rules one way or another. Even when other big clubs are abiding by the rules and seeing their peers exploit them? Yep. There will be a way around it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 There will be loopholes and they will be exploited. The big clubs will find a way to circumnavigate the rules one way or another. Even when other big clubs are abiding by the rules and seeing their peers exploit them? Yep. There will be a way around it. Good interview on this issue: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/9384304.stm Even if it is from someone who made despicable comments about Sir Bobby. Views on UEFA rules starts at 3 mins in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 There will be loopholes and they will be exploited. The big clubs will find a way to circumnavigate the rules one way or another. Even when other big clubs are abiding by the rules and seeing their peers exploit them? Yep. There will be a way around it. Why would say, for example, Inter Milan and Barcelona allow Chelsea to bend the rules? It's not big clubs v small clubs, it's big clubs v big clubs. There won't be bullying, it will be heavyweights v heavyweights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 There will be loopholes and they will be exploited. The big clubs will find a way to circumnavigate the rules one way or another. Even when other big clubs are abiding by the rules and seeing their peers exploit them? Yep. There will be a way around it. Why would say, for example, Inter Milan and Barcelona allow Chelsea to bend the rules? It's not big clubs v small clubs, it's big clubs v big clubs. There won't be bullying, it will be heavyweights v heavyweights. I said there would be loopholes. They will be discovered and exploited. No idea who'll find them first but they will. The big boys won't like a level playing field and will find a way around the rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 The 'big boys' agreed to the rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 so let's see what happens then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 so let's see what happens then. You didn't even answer my question though, why would teams who have tried to meet the requirements (Man U are one, I think) sit idly by while Chelsea break the rules? I know you're saying there will be loopholes but do you think clubs the size of Man U are going to let other clubs bend these rules to gain an advantage? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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