Optimistic Nut Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 He's hardly played all season though has he? It's not like he's been a regular in the team all season then had the bombshell dropped on him. Pardew gets some deserved flak for his comments, mainly his lack of ambition, undermining what we're capable of, etc, I just think this is nowt tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Pards not being hammered for loving Jonas more than life itself any more then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 He's hardly played all season though has he? It's not like he's been a regular in the team all season then had the bombshell dropped on him. Pardew gets some deserved flak for his comments, mainly his lack of ambition, undermining what we're capable of, etc, I just think this is nowt tbf. If it's that straightforward it makes you wonder why he was unable to extend some basic common courtesy to the player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Pards not being hammered for loving Jonas more than life itself any more then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 You never know if Jonas was out of line and Pardew asked him to find a new club in a respectful manner, or if Pardew didn't have the decency or professionalism to explain to such a good servant to the club why he'd been left out in the cold. It's just one of those where each party makes out the other party makes the other out to be the villain, and you don't know who to believe... ...unless it involves Newcastle's management in which case it's almost always the player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Pards not being hammered for loving Jonas more than life itself any more then? Being questioned to why he's moving on without Jonas and not explaining the situation. Can't make this shit up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Pards not being hammered for loving Jonas more than life itself any more then? Being questioned to why he's moving on without Jonas and not explaining the situation. Can't make this s*** up I'm no fan of Jonas and i'm not that bothered with Pardew being ruthless, he ought to be with a few others but, a model pro like Jonas probably deserves an explanation don't you think? Doesn't that just seem like common courtesy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Eh? He's told a player in December that he can leave, and he's left. Am I missing something or again is it something to shoot Pardew with for little reason? What was he meant to tell him like? 'Well actually Jonas I just think you're shit now, fack orf'. It's been clear for over a year now why he's not playing. We've got far better players than this time last year. So if your manager at work just told you to fuck off and you asked why, you would expect nothing less? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Pards not being hammered for loving Jonas more than life itself any more then? Being questioned to why he's moving on without Jonas and not explaining the situation. Can't make this s*** up I'm no fan of Jonas and i'm not that bothered with Pardew being ruthless, he ought to be with a few others but, a model pro like Jonas probably deserves an explanation don't you think? Doesn't that just seem like common courtesy? I can't see how he probably doesn't already know the reason. If you get told to move on from somewhere, your first question would be why?...What would Pardew have said? 'Don't question me, just find another club.. now leave my office'? It’s probably something Jonas doesn’t really want to explain himself and by saying he doesn’t really know why just avoids telling the fans of his new club that he’s not very good anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Pards not being hammered for loving Jonas more than life itself any more then? Being questioned to why he's moving on without Jonas and not explaining the situation. Can't make this s*** up I'm no fan of Jonas and i'm not that bothered with Pardew being ruthless, he ought to be with a few others but, a model pro like Jonas probably deserves an explanation don't you think? Doesn't that just seem like common courtesy? Yes, the issue is we don't know what was said between them or how it was said. Not that it matters either way like, but still think it's a bit harsh considering up until a few weeks ago people were slammed Pardew because Jonas was going to be picked as soon as he was fit. Edit: or what Brett said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Pards not being hammered for loving Jonas more than life itself any more then? Being questioned to why he's moving on without Jonas and not explaining the situation. Can't make this s*** up I'm no fan of Jonas and i'm not that bothered with Pardew being ruthless, he ought to be with a few others but, a model pro like Jonas probably deserves an explanation don't you think? Doesn't that just seem like common courtesy? Yes, the issue is we don't know what was said between them or how it was said. Not that it matters either way like, but still think it's a bit harsh considering up until a few weeks ago people were slammed Pardew because Jonas was going to be picked as soon as he was fit. Edit: or what Brett said. I have no idea what you're on about and Pardew can be slammed for a fair few other decisions over the past few weeks, can't remember any for him 'probably picking Jonas'. You're just being defensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Someone mentioned a clause in Jonas' contract? Three year extension if he reached 200 games, or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I have no idea what you're on about and Pardew can be slammed for a fair few other decisions over the past few weeks, can't remember any for him 'probably picking Jonas'. You're just being defensive. Obviously he can be criticised for plenty, just not this. You must've been in a hole for the last three months if you don't remember the Jonas return fear. Anyway, as I said, it doesn't really matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I've seen plenty of grief over the players he IS picking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I've seen plenty of grief over the players he IS picking. Sure, that's fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I met Jonas earlier in the season whilst he just got injured and he told me himself that he'd already been told he wouldn't be playing as regular as he was in previous seasons. So it couldn't have been that much of a shock after a lengthy lay off and the team playing well without him that he's told it would be best for him to find a new club. Don't believe it's simply find a new club then nothing else. Not that Jonas is in the wrong either for his comments. He's moved on now and it's best for all parties concerned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I met Jonas earlier in the season whilst he just got injured and he told me himself that he'd already been told he wouldn't be playing as regular as he was in previous seasons. So it couldn't have been that much of a shock after a lengthy lay off and the team playing well without him that he's told it would be best for him to find a new club. Don't believe it's simply find a new club then nothing else. Not that Jonas is in the wrong either for his comments. He's moved on now and it's best for all parties concerned. Was that in your office Alan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I met Jonas earlier in the season whilst he just got injured and he told me himself that he'd already been told he wouldn't be playing as regular as he was in previous seasons. So it couldn't have been that much of a shock after a lengthy lay off and the team playing well without him that he's told it would be best for him to find a new club. Don't believe it's simply find a new club then nothing else. Not that Jonas is in the wrong either for his comments. He's moved on now and it's best for all parties concerned. Was that in your office Alan? http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/3555320/sheldon-sarcastic-laugh-o.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I met Jonas earlier in the season whilst he just got injured and he told me himself that he'd already been told he wouldn't be playing as regular as he was in previous seasons. So it couldn't have been that much of a shock after a lengthy lay off and the team playing well without him that he's told it would be best for him to find a new club. Don't believe it's simply find a new club then nothing else. Not that Jonas is in the wrong either for his comments. He's moved on now and it's best for all parties concerned. Was that in your office Alan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Eh? He's told a player in December that he can leave, and he's left. Am I missing something or again is it something to shoot Pardew with for little reason? What was he meant to tell him like? 'Well actually Jonas I just think you're shit now, fack orf'. It's been clear for over a year now why he's not playing. We've got far better players than this time last year. So if your manager at work just told you to fuck off and you asked why, you would expect nothing less? "Well on the wages they're on..." etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Should it not be pretty bloody obvious? If I didn't do my job for well over a year and was told to leave I don't think I'd ask why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Should it not be pretty bloody obvious? If I didn't do my job for well over a year and was told to leave I don't think I'd ask why. And even if I was told, I wouldn't say that in public just after getting a new job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Someone mentioned a clause in Jonas's contract? Three year extension if he reached 200 games, or something. This. Taylor and Besty mentioned it in last night's podcast too. It'd make sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Someone mentioned a clause in Jonas's contract? Three year extension if he reached 200 games, or something. This. Taylor and Besty mentioned it in last night's podcast too. It'd make sense. Getting a new three year contract doesn't make much sense to me at all. Fine if it was a one year extension, but three? Nah, no way, nah. Anyway, as has been said, he isn't good enough and that's why he's been told to find a new club. Nothing controversial about that at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 If someone has been working for you for years, giving mainly 100% but hasn't been performing that well for a year or so you don't just cut them off without any explanation. Firstly it's just not the right thing to do and secondly it is utterly shite management. That seems obvious to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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