Ronaldo Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 The gamble to sell Carroll has only paid off in that we didn't go down. If the money isn't reinvested in the squad - particularly on replacement goalscorers - we'll be struggling again next year. Without at least one proven goalscorer, we're doomed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Pardew's consistency worries me slightly. He's basically doing what Hughton did by getting a good result then getting a bad result. This is something he needs to address next season or we'll go no further than we are now. How many bad results have we actually got under Pardew? Can't think of many. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 The gamble to sell Carroll has only paid off in that we didn't go down. If the money isn't reinvested in the squad - particularly on replacement goalscorers - we'll be struggling again next year. Without at least one proven goalscorer, we're doomed. http://www.nufcblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/shola-ameobi-nigeria.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Knock it off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Pardew's consistency worries me slightly. He's basically doing what Hughton did by getting a good result then getting a bad result. This is something he needs to address next season or we'll go no further than we are now. How many bad results have we actually got under Pardew? Can't think of many. Stoke, Fulham and Villa are the only ones that come to my mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 However, I will credit Ashley for having the guts to make the decision, because it was never going to be a popular one, and if it had not worked out, there would be hell to pay. He was prepared to back his own opinion and take that responsibility, whereas previously his regime had been floundering from one crisis to another, rather than acting pro-actively. I disagree about this, I think indecisiveness has never been a problem for Ashley. I've taken most of his disastrous actions as being born of his boldness - claiming until medical science made it impossible that Joe Kinnear was the right choice and that he was sticking by him, for example. Chucking Allardyce out of the blue and appointing Keegan even more out of the blue was another. He portrayed those and many other things as being active and constant choices as opposed to situations that he was just thrust into and didn't know whether to change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Pardew's consistency worries me slightly. He's basically doing what Hughton did by getting a good result then getting a bad result. This is something he needs to address next season or we'll go no further than we are now. How many bad results have we actually got under Pardew? Can't think of many. Stoke, Fulham and Villa are the only ones that come to my mind. You could put Stevenage in too, of course 4 out of 22. Shoot him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Pardew's consistency worries me slightly. He's basically doing what Hughton did by getting a good result then getting a bad result. This is something he needs to address next season or we'll go no further than we are now. How many bad results have we actually got under Pardew? Can't think of many. Liverpool, Blackpool, Villa, Stoke, Everton, Bolton (maybe), Blackburn, Fulham and Stevenage for one reason or another could be classed as bad/disappointing results. On the flipside, we've had roughly the same amount of good results/performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 We always get beat at Anfield. Our terrific side under Bobby got hammered 3-0 there in 2002. How on earth draws at Ewood and Bloomfield Road can be bad results - especially considering the players at our disposal - is completely beyond me, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Losing at places like Fulham and Villa can only really be seen as a bad result for the top 6 clubs IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 We always lose at Stamford Bridge yet we drew with Chelsea with a far worse team than the one who played Liverpool. The players at our disposal have picked up plenty of good results (against much better teams than Blackpool and Blackburn) so you can't blame them as much as you'd like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Yep. They're only bad results if we were expecting top 5 or whatever. We were always going to be inconsistent. Every club from 7th down generally is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Always had Arsenal at home down as a dodgy game, myself. Maybe the romantic in me is dead or something but the comeback didn't wipe out what had already happened for me - I expect us to do something like what happened in the second half when we're in those situations, whereas the first half was an unacceptable embarrassment. Anything less than a close run end to the game would have been potentially sack worthy. That said, as I always have, I recognise Pardew himself was working in difficult circumstances at the time. He's played his hand here pretty well by his standards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WisconsinMagpie Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Pardew's consistency worries me slightly. He's basically doing what Hughton did by getting a good result then getting a bad result. True. But he's doing what Hughton did without the team Hughton had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Losing at places like Fulham and Villa can only really be seen as a bad result for the top 6 clubs IMO. Villa were at their lowest point for years when we GAVE them 3 points. The performance against Fulham was more painful than the score in all honesty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Yep. They're only bad results if we were expecting top 5 or whatever. We were always going to be inconsistent. Every club from 7th down generally is. Every club from around 2nd down, this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 We always lose at Stamford Bridge yet we drew with Chelsea with a far worse team than the one who played Liverpool. The players at our disposal have picked up plenty of good results (against much better teams than Blackpool and Blackburn) so you can't blame them as much as you'd like. Blaming them for what? Pardew's got the best out of them, and you just don't want to admit it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 We always lose at Stamford Bridge yet we drew with Chelsea with a far worse team than the one who played Liverpool. The players at our disposal have picked up plenty of good results (against much better teams than Blackpool and Blackburn) so you can't blame them as much as you'd like. Blaming them for what? Pardew's got the best out of them, and you just don't want to admit it. Miss the second line of my post? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Clearly not, that's primarily what I was responding to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 I remember when Keegan sold Cole, our main striker we struggled like hell despite having a team of good quality players which had finished 3rd in the premier the previous season. Getting results with no strike force is no mean achievement. It seems easy only in hindsight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Losing at places like Fulham and Villa can only really be seen as a bad result for the top 6 clubs IMO. I only mentioned them due to the manner of the defeat, as opposed to the actual defeat. We could have easily got something from either game if the bite/spirit had been there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Always had Arsenal at home down as a dodgy game, myself. Maybe the romantic in me is dead or something but the comeback didn't wipe out what had already happened for me - I expect us to do something like what happened in the second half when we're in those situations, whereas the first half was an unacceptable embarrassment. Anything less than a close run end to the game would have been potentially sack worthy. That said, as I always have, I recognise Pardew himself was working in difficult circumstances at the time. He's played his hand here pretty well by his standards. I just put it down as a freak event. The brilliance of the second half performance balances out the terrible showing in the first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Pardew's consistency worries me slightly. He's basically doing what Hughton did by getting a good result then getting a bad result. This is something he needs to address next season or we'll go no further than we are now. How many bad results have we actually got under Pardew? Can't think of many. Liverpool, Blackpool, Villa, Stoke, Everton, Bolton (maybe), Blackburn, Fulham and Stevenage for one reason or another could be classed as bad/disappointing results. On the flipside, we've had roughly the same amount of good results/performances. If we had won all those we would only be a point behind Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TherealnorthernTOON Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 The fact that no manager ever haven't heard of undersoil heating in this club. No wonder we've had so many injuries. Now pardew has adressed it, and I do bet we will see less injuries during the winter months from next season on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Clearly not, that's primarily what I was responding to. I don't want to admit the players have played really well at times despite saying so a few times. You don't think the players are good enough despite claiming we've only had 4 bad games in 22. Ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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