Incognito Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I think with the TV money,if we stay up,which I think we will,we'll spend all of it this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 He said that he insisted it was all re-invested back into the team. Not sure if he said about it all being in the summer. Fwiw i agree with Elliott... i doubt we'll see £35m all go on players in 2011. Not necassarily due to a lack of ambition, but through poor scouting/poor negotiating. How can we re-invest the £35 million if we don't spend it? What? I said i think we will, just not all this summer. If we spend anything less than £35m on incoming transfers this summer, it's a disgrace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Christ - is that the conspiracy special of the day? Yawn. I'm in absolutely no way an Ashley apologist and i can't wait until the whole club can wash it's hands of the dispicable c***... but i'm seriously bored of people trying to pick out the flaws and loopholes of every act we make, just to stick another knife in him. Is it not exhausting? Responding to it certainly is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fried Chicken Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Alan Pardew is our Comical Ali, hopefully the Ashley Junta will be removed in the near future & any muppets from that regime are tarred & feathered Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I like this new agreeing with Yorkie thing Me too! :colo: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannybagoftudor Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 35 million plus an anticipated "normal" spend of 15 million. We should be dissapointed if the "net" spend is less than 50 million. Who is confident?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Antec Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2011/02/02/pardew-says-nufc-must-invest-to-join-top-five-elite-61634-28098021/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheSummerOf69 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 December 10, 2010 “Andy Carroll’s future was one of the items at the top of my agenda. He needs to stay. I have had reassurances about that, 100% he is staying here.... I guarantee while I am here he will be here.” (Off you go, then, Pinnochio). December 11, 2010 “In terms of myself, I never really had any contact about this job or any other job.” (Re: nicking "Houghton"s job) December 20, 2010 “We have to have a big-club mentality and hold on to our best player.” December 22, 2010 “I want Joey to stay... and that goes for all the other players, like Andy. They are not going. We want them to stay here, and that is something that we’re working towards.” December 23, 2010 “In this window, Andy Carroll is definitely going nowhere.” December 28, 2010 “I told him, ‘It’s important you want to stay’. That was the case he put to me, and we’ll make sure he stays.” December 29, 2010 “There’s a no sale on Andy Carroll, which is probably the biggest and best news we’re going to have during the window.” December 30, 2010 “Tottenham are wasting their time.” January 6, 2011 “I have said all along that Andy Carroll will not be leaving this football club, 100%.” January 16, 2011 “They can put together what they like, he's not for sale.“ January 17, 2011 “It’s ridiculous. How many times do I need to say he’s not for sale? Well here it is one more time, he’s not for sale.” February 1, 2011 "That money will be used.... The fees and salaries will be included in that figure of £35m.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 October 1st, 2011 "I did all I could, I told the Board the players we needed and we only got a couple of them. The other arrivals I knew nothing about. Player X was not my player, player Y was not my player and player Z I'd never even heard of". "In the end it turns out all of those other managers who took the time to text me on the day I announced I'd taken the job were right - I was a fackin puppet and a cunt for shafting a good bloke to look after number one and my casino mates." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I see that the theory that Pardew was appointed because he is an easier man for Ashley to manipulate than Hughton is still doing the rounds. This is the same Hughton who was himself widely branded as a yes man and a puppet following Ashley's refusal to give the job to Shearer. I have to say I have a real problem seeing Hughton as some sort of iron man who would have somehow single handed prevented Carroll, Ashley and Liverpool FC from pulling off that deal yesterday. It's nonsense imo. not easier to manipulate - told what to do and what not to do from day one, even before day one hughton came from modest background, by all accounts took the job on without asking for the MONEY for re-investment that shearer was but developed into someone with quite a lot of power in the club because of his achievements. power that would manifest itself in, i dont know, having a say in how the club is run? something its been proven in court ashley and llambias dont like putting in the hands of the manager. i dont see hughton as an iron man, i see him as not alan pardew. and i see alan pardew as a man put in a job for a very specific reason, and that is so ashley can do what he wants, when he wants without getting landed with another court case. unless you think he was appointed because of his experience and achievements? or would care to explain why pardew was being lined up for months while hughton was still here? I find the first line of your post to be contradictory. Surely you are defining manipulation? The circumstances as to how Pardew got the job are not relevant to me. This is football, it's a sh1tty industry and can be brutal at times. We aren't the only club to have shafted a manager and Ashley's regime isn't the only one to have done it at Newcastle. I've said before on here why I think Pardew was appointed. It was because Ashley thinks Pardew will do a better job at this level than Hughton. Many said it was a crap decision at the time (me included) but I would say that Pardew's support is growing. You clearly believe that Carroll was sold against his will and well - I don't. nah mate, i'm not defining manipulation. you said 'the theory that Pardew was appointed because he is an easier man for Ashley to manipulate than Hughton'. i'm saying that defining what the manager can and cant do before the contract starts isnt anything to do with manipulation, infact its almost the exact opposite. if he's aware of what he is or isnt in control of, ashley doesnt need to manipulate him does he? it all comes back to why you think pardew was appointed, you've stated your view, i disagree. the circumstances are too suspect for me. the talk of them being buddies beforehand, the fact that golfmag was talking about him being lined up for months, and most telling, the fact that its alan pardew, a man with nowhere near enough experience or achievement to warrant displacing a well performing manager in our league. you can say that the circumstances involving him getting the job aren't relevant, but imo it's intrinsic to the atmosphere and set up of the club now, thats why i mentioned it. i dont believe carroll was sold against his will and to be honest i dont care. my point is an all encompassing one about the direction of the club, not about andy carroll. my belief that ashley has brought pardew in so he remains un-obstructed in doing whatever he wants, whenever he wants is based on all of the things i've been talking about since pardew came in, and the fact that we got bids for carroll publicised and then denied by spurs and media, AND redknapp saying it's 30-40 mill for carroll weeks ago only enforce what i think. ashley saw the cash in opportunity and couldnt resist. whether the fee is worth it, we'll stay up or not, if hughton's got a bigger cock than pardew, i'm not debating any of this. all i'm saying is that ashley's finally got his club running the way he wants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 If Ashley's going to be here then it's in everyone's best interests that he has a manager who he trusts and he can work together with. If he's going to be the owner, then that's the best chance we've got for stability and progress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 If Ashley's going to be here then it's in everyone's best interests that he has a manager who he trusts and he can work together with. If he's going to be the owner, then that's the best chance we've got for stability and progress. True but ultimately it'll come down to whether or not Pardew can handle being dictated to over players, fee's, contracts etc etc I'd wager he's probably on a percentage of the profit if we sell the club for more than x whilst he's in charge which will incentivise him to; a) go along with Mike/Dekka b) stick it out c) forget he's got any morals. Like he had any to start with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 December 10, 2010 “Andy Carroll’s future was one of the items at the top of my agenda. He needs to stay. I have had reassurances about that, 100% he is staying here.... I guarantee while I am here he will be here.” (Off you go, then, Pinnochio). December 11, 2010 “In terms of myself, I never really had any contact about this job or any other job.” (Re: nicking "Houghton"s job) December 20, 2010 “We have to have a big-club mentality and hold on to our best player.” December 22, 2010 “I want Joey to stay... and that goes for all the other players, like Andy. They are not going. We want them to stay here, and that is something that we’re working towards.” December 23, 2010 “In this window, Andy Carroll is definitely going nowhere.” December 28, 2010 “I told him, ‘It’s important you want to stay’. That was the case he put to me, and we’ll make sure he stays.” December 29, 2010 “There’s a no sale on Andy Carroll, which is probably the biggest and best news we’re going to have during the window.” December 30, 2010 “Tottenham are wasting their time.” January 6, 2011 “I have said all along that Andy Carroll will not be leaving this football club, 100%.” January 16, 2011 “They can put together what they like, he's not for sale.“ January 17, 2011 “It’s ridiculous. How many times do I need to say he’s not for sale? Well here it is one more time, he’s not for sale.” February 1, 2011 "That money will be used.... The fees and salaries will be included in that figure of £35m.” Yeah. How dare he let Carroll submit a transfer request? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 December 10, 2010 “Andy Carroll’s future was one of the items at the top of my agenda. He needs to stay. I have had reassurances about that, 100% he is staying here.... I guarantee while I am here he will be here.” (Off you go, then, Pinnochio). December 11, 2010 “In terms of myself, I never really had any contact about this job or any other job.” (Re: nicking "Houghton"s job) December 20, 2010 “We have to have a big-club mentality and hold on to our best player.” December 22, 2010 “I want Joey to stay... and that goes for all the other players, like Andy. They are not going. We want them to stay here, and that is something that we’re working towards.” December 23, 2010 “In this window, Andy Carroll is definitely going nowhere.” December 28, 2010 “I told him, ‘It’s important you want to stay’. That was the case he put to me, and we’ll make sure he stays.” December 29, 2010 “There’s a no sale on Andy Carroll, which is probably the biggest and best news we’re going to have during the window.” December 30, 2010 “Tottenham are wasting their time.” January 6, 2011 “I have said all along that Andy Carroll will not be leaving this football club, 100%.” January 16, 2011 “They can put together what they like, he's not for sale.“ January 17, 2011 “It’s ridiculous. How many times do I need to say he’s not for sale? Well here it is one more time, he’s not for sale.” February 1, 2011 "That money will be used.... The fees and salaries will be included in that figure of £35m.” Yeah. How dare he let Carroll submit a transfer request? There's a huge amount more to it than than Jonny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheSummerOf69 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Yeah. How dare he let Carroll submit a transfer request? I'm not that gullible, even without Ashley being proven in court to lie to us as a default setting (and the stench of Pardew's odds tumbling while he insists he knew nothing), but... even if we do take it that Pardew's an honourable man and Carroll was determined to bugger off, then Pardew's been incompetently naive in giving all those assurances and I still can't believe a word he says. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Here we go again... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Yeah. How dare he let Carroll submit a transfer request? I'm not that gullible, even without Ashley being proven in court to lie to us as a default setting (and the stench of Pardew's odds tumbling while he insists he knew nothing), but... even if we do take it that Pardew's an honourable man and Carroll was determined to bugger off, then Pardew's been incompetently naive in giving all those assurances and I still can't believe a word he says. What was he supposed to say like? "Well we don't know, Andy might be sold if a massive offer comes along or if he decides he wants to piss off but hey ho, that's life!" He was trying to give assurances to the squad and to the fans that they were doing everything to try and keep him. How was he supposed to know that Liverpool would turn his head and come in with a £35m offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Yeah. How dare he let Carroll submit a transfer request? I'm not that gullible, even without Ashley being proven in court to lie to us as a default setting (and the stench of Pardew's odds tumbling while he insists he knew nothing), but... even if we do take it that Pardew's an honourable man and Carroll was determined to bugger off, then Pardew's been incompetently naive in giving all those assurances and I still can't believe a word he says. What was he supposed to say like? "Well we don't know, Andy might be sold if a massive offer comes along or if he decides he wants to piss off but hey ho, that's life!" He was trying to give assurances to the squad and to the fans that they were doing everything to try and keep him. How was he supposed to know that Liverpool would turn his head and come in with a £35m offer. could've just asked his boss how much he'd be offering him around for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Or how he was planning to get Carroll to sign a transfer request. I don't know, these same people that call Ashley a cunt that has no clue what he's doing, are actually complimenting him for suggesting that he could mastermind getting Carroll to move to Liverpool and make it look like he wanted to go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheSummerOf69 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Yeah. How dare he let Carroll submit a transfer request? I'm not that gullible, even without Ashley being proven in court to lie to us as a default setting (and the stench of Pardew's odds tumbling while he insists he knew nothing), but... even if we do take it that Pardew's an honourable man and Carroll was determined to bugger off, then Pardew's been incompetently naive in giving all those assurances and I still can't believe a word he says. What was he supposed to say like? "Well we don't know, Andy might be sold if a massive offer comes along or if he decides he wants to piss off but hey ho, that's life!" He was trying to give assurances to the squad and to the fans that they were doing everything to try and keep him. How was he supposed to know that Liverpool would turn his head and come in with a £35m offer. He was supposed to say "I've put my reputation with the supporters on the line over this. He stays." And then resign, as Keegan did. The only way I'd begin to forgive him is if I was convinced that they'd turned hell and high water to convince Carroll to stay but that he was absolutely determined to go, come what may. And I'm far from that. Are you? Really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Or how he was planning to get Carroll to sign a transfer request. easy, turn him down when he asks for the wage he's worth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 No, I don't think we did enough. But I'm glad that we didn't give into his wage demands and that we told him when he'd have his contract renewed. Carroll was the one that signed the transfer request and he is the one that went to Liverpool - nobody can deny that. I don't care that Ashley is bloody delighted with getting £35m for him, Carroll ultimately made the decision to go. EDIT: And what more could Pardew have done like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheSummerOf69 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Or how he was planning to get Carroll to sign a transfer request. easy, turn him down when he asks for the wage he's worth I don't think it would have taken anywhere near that, maybe just a promise for more than the pittance he was on and a continuation of the line that we wanted to keep him. It's Beardsley all over again. Meanwhile Blackpool manage to hold onto their star player, despite him wanting to go and clubs falling over themselves to get him. But they are such a big club compared to us... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 No, I don't think we did enough. But I'm glad that we didn't give into his wage demands and that we told him when he'd have his contract renewed. Carroll was the one that signed the transfer request and he is the one that went to Liverpool - nobody can deny that. I don't care that Ashley is bloody delighted with getting £35m for him, Carroll ultimately made the decision to go. EDIT: And what more could Pardew have done like? nothing, he's alan pardew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Or how he was planning to get Carroll to sign a transfer request. easy, turn him down when he asks for the wage he's worth I don't think it would have taken anywhere near that. It's Beardsley all over again. Meanwhile Blackpool manage to hold onto their star player, despite him wanting to go and clubs falling over themselves to get him. But they are such a big club compared to us... Let's see how it turns out for them before suggesting it was a good thing to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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