JH Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 According to a Villa ITK they will be signing Zog, Hutton and possibly Given next week. Where's brummie, maybe he knows something about this. the same ITK's who said Moyes would be their manager? oooooo burn! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 I think MA and Pards will play it cool. No reason what so ever to engage in a bidding war, which is exactly what Wigan wants. If a bid is accepted, we'll match it. Hopefully Zog will then be a man of his word. If not, so be it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Zog will go where the money is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 I think MA and Pards will play it cool. No reason what so ever to engage in a bidding war, which is exactly what Wigan wants. If a bid is accepted, we'll match it. Hopefully Zog will then be a man of his word. If not, so be it. Tend to agree, although I think the Marveaux signing has totally cooled our interest in him unless the deal is right for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 I think MA and Pards will play it cool. No reason what so ever to engage in a bidding war, which is exactly what Wigan wants. If a bid is accepted, we'll match it. Hopefully Zog will then be a man of his word. If not, so be it. Tend to agree, although I think the Marveaux signing has totally cooled our interest in him unless the deal is right for us. That's my sentiments exactly. Zog is a good player. But on the other hand it's not wise to use £9 mill on a player that we can get for free next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Er, we can't though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 We cannot get him for free next year though, as he WILL leave Wigan this summer and while MA & Co. are playing it cool he will just go to Villa or SMB, then they will act all cool and make out he was never a transfer target in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Why pay £4.5m for Cabaye when we could have got him for nothing in one/two/three years time? etc. Nonsense argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Why pay £4.5m for Cabaye when we could have got him for nothing in one/two/three years time? etc. Nonsense argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 We cannot get him for free next year though, as he WILL leave Wigan this summer and while MA & Co. are playing it cool he will just go to Villa or SMB, then they will act all cool and make out he was never a transfer target in the first place. Good point. But still...£9 mill is a steep sum (if it's correct) 1/4 of the money from Carroll.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 "N'Zogbia was a player we were interested in, but when a club like Aston Villa came in with a big money bid, it very much moved the goalposts." Pardew- September 2011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 "N'Zogbia was a player we were interested in, but when a club like Aston Villa came in with a big money bid, it very much moved the goalposts." Pardew- September 2011 "Yes we were linked with him but we were never after Charles.. no way would Mike pay more to buy him back than what he sold him for" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 We cannot get him for free next year though, as he WILL leave Wigan this summer and while MA & Co. are playing it cool he will just go to Villa or SMB, then they will act all cool and make out he was never a transfer target in the first place. Good point. But still...£9 mill is a steep sum (if it's correct) 1/4 of the money from Carroll.. Not a steep sum at all imo. He is definitely worth the £9 million especially when you see the likes of Downing being rated at £15 million +. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 "After the 'incident', that must never be mentioned again ever, with Charles' partner, we was never going to convince him to come here." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 We cannot get him for free next year though, as he WILL leave Wigan this summer and while MA & Co. are playing it cool he will just go to Villa or SMB, then they will act all cool and make out he was never a transfer target in the first place. Good point. But still...£9 mill is a steep sum (if it's correct) 1/4 of the money from Carroll.. Not a steep sum at all imo. He is definitely worth the £9 million especially when you see the likes of Downing being rated at £15 million +. I would be happy for us pay £9m for him and see the club pay him £60k per week but its not going to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 We cannot get him for free next year though, as he WILL leave Wigan this summer and while MA & Co. are playing it cool he will just go to Villa or SMB, then they will act all cool and make out he was never a transfer target in the first place. Good point. But still...£9 mill is a steep sum (if it's correct) 1/4 of the money from Carroll.. Not a steep sum at all imo. He is definitely worth the £9 million especially when you see the likes of Downing being rated at £15 million +. I would be happy for us pay £9m for him and see the club pay him £60k per week but its not going to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 As fans, I've noticed a lot more comments along the lines recently of "I'd not be happy paying that much for potential incoming player" or "£xmillion for potential outgoing player is a great deal." Why do we care? Its the clubs money after all, it's affecting none of our wallets. As long as we're not going ridiculous like Jordan Henderson esque deals, frankly I'm not arsed if we would be paying over the odds. Sometimes you have to do it if you want the player and that's something that Ashley has never grasped and will never bend to. Its an overly rigid policy that will more often than not see targets slip through the net whilst we settle for third of forth choices. As for outgoing deals, it doesn't really matter if we got £2million or £12million for someone like Routledge. It doesnt affect one bit our spending so any incoming money is almost irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Similarly, why should it matter if we're not spending mega bucks when we can get Ben Arfa, Tiote, Cabaye, Ba and Marveaux for around £15m? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 As fans, I've noticed a lot more comments along the lines recently of "I'd not be happy paying that much for potential incoming player" or "£xmillion for potential outgoing player is a great deal." Why do we care? Its the clubs money after all, it's affecting none of our wallets. As long as we're not going ridiculous like Jordan Henderson esque deals, frankly I'm not arsed if we would be paying over the odds. Sometimes you have to do it if you want the player and that's something that Ashley has never grasped and will never bend to. Its an overly rigid policy that will more often than not see targets slip through the net whilst we settle for third of forth choices. As for outgoing deals, it doesn't really matter if we got £2million or £12million for someone like Routledge. It doesnt affect one bit our spending so any incoming money is almost irrelevant. I've been saying this for yonks, only to be effectively accused of wanting the club to go under. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 As fans, I've noticed a lot more comments along the lines recently of "I'd not be happy paying that much for potential incoming player" or "£xmillion for potential outgoing player is a great deal." Why do we care? Its the clubs money after all, it's affecting none of our wallets. As long as we're not going ridiculous like Jordan Henderson esque deals, frankly I'm not arsed if we would be paying over the odds. Sometimes you have to do it if you want the player and that's something that Ashley has never grasped and will never bend to. Its an overly rigid policy that will more often than not see targets slip through the net whilst we settle for third of forth choices. As for outgoing deals, it doesn't really matter if we got £2million or £12million for someone like Routledge. It doesnt affect one bit our spending so any incoming money is almost irrelevant. My thoughts exactly. Happens fairly often too that fees can seem over the odds at the time but eventually end up justified, particularly with younger players. This is the dilemma we face - Ashley wants to buy young but isn't willing to pay top whack for the potential because he's not seeing the benefit here and now. A major flaw in that policy is that nowadays I think players tend to peak a couple of years earlier than they did ten years ago due to the pace of the game in England and potential is now worth more than current ability. We probably all raised an eyebrow at fees paid for Ashley Young, Gareth Bale, Theo Walcott but now at worst they look like decent prices, at best like complete snips. The mackems have gone for this with Wickham, only time will tell whether it pays off, I hope not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Similarly, why should it matter if we're not spending mega bucks when we can get Ben Arfa, Tiote, Cabaye, Ba and Marveaux for around £15m? Because we always want the team to be better. Money saved should, in my eyes, translate as more money to spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 And replace 6 or 7 first team players at a time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Whilst I agree, more money spent doesn't always equal better team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 And replace 6 or 7 first team players at a time? Not necessarily. I'd rather go to £20m for Sturridge rather than buying another three or four moderately priced players. Bellamy and Robert's the classic example of how the right quality can improve the side drastically, rather than sheer weight of numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Its the one aspect of our transfer policy that I agree with; buying young with players on the up. Unfortunately we dont just stop there, we seemingly apply a number of other preferred criteria which narrows the pool considerably: Ideally not over 26. Contract with 2 or less years to run, meaning deflated transfer fees. Ideally should be free agents. On relatively low wages so we can hike their wages, thus being an enticing offer, although without having to pay "big" money. Ideally not based in Premier League due to the over infaltion of inter Premier League transfer fees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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