Yohan Cabaye (now sporting coordinator at Paris Saint-Germain)

[EthiGeordie]

He needs to take free kicks. It is a must thing.

[Mole_Toonfan]

Cabaye is the last person people should lambasting..... do i need to remind everyone how awful we looked against Reading without him?

 

Don't agree with the first bit at all. When a player isn't pulling their weight consistently, they'll be criticised like everybody else. Cabaye (at home) has been largely anonymous all season. He stands next to his midfield partner almost all game and his corners are mostly awful.

 

Not that I disagree about the second bit, but we scored twice in the Reading game which is rare for us.

 

I agree that he is crap in 4-4-2 but that's the entire point of the matter we shouldn't be deploying him there he's proven how fantastic he is playing in front of 2 holding players and behind the main striker.

 

He performs for us in 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3, he performed for Lille in those systems he performs for France in those systems it's quite obvious where he needs to be playing consistently.

 

Not picking the ball up from the bloody CB's and watching the ball fly over his head.

[Ronaldo]

Cabaye is better technically but i think Nolan has the advantage mentally. So frustrating when Cabaye gets all petulant; you know, once he's got like that, any decent contribution to the game he was going to have is gone.

 

Nolan's just far more suited to that style of play. He's physically superior too.

[Hughesy]

Cabaye is better technically but i think Nolan has the advantage mentally. So frustrating when Cabaye gets all petulant; you know, once he's got like that, any decent contribution to the game he was going to have is gone.

 

Nolan's just far more suited to that style of play. He's physically superior too.

 

Well - he is stronger and he has a bigger arse.  Not sure if that makes him physically superior as I imagine that Cabaye is quicker and fitter.

[Mole_Toonfan]

If you want someone to fit this style of play we might as well buy Barton, Nolan, Carroll and Enrique back and sell Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Cisse and Santon....

 

Yay for bottom half finishes.

[nuneaton]

Dear Yohan,

 

Can you please STOP taking corner kicks.

 

Sincerely,

 

Ethi

 

 

 

Dear Ethnic,

 

Non.

 

best wishes

 

Yo

 

[Jack Flash]

To compare Nolan to Cabaye is embarrassing.  We've had this debate before.  Nolan is an extremely limited player who will score 10 goals a season.  Other than that, he offers little.

 

He scored a winner yesterday and played Carroll through for a 1 on 1. No idea what Cabaye did.

 

Nolan's goals will keep West Ham up. Same as his goals helped them get promoted last year so he's far from "extremely limited". I shouldn't need to say what he did for us.

 

He has a role in lower to mid table team and is a good player at that level.  But I'm afraid he is a limited footballer.  He is slow, unfit and not that good technically.  What he has in his favour is that he is positionally good and is a good finisher.

 

But where do you play him?  He can't play in a midfield two.  You have to build a team around him and hope that his 10 goals is worth it.

 

If we had a manager who could operate different formations/systems he'd be a very useful player. Most teams rotate their system and certain players for certain games but we either don't or can't. We're as predictable as any team in the league at the minute and our only plan B is bring on Shola. Having a different game plan as a plan B seems like a luxury when it's the norm at most clubs.

 

How many people, without irony or sarcasm, though Nolan would score yesterday? The pre-match thread is full of that and he's still written off despite doing what we all said he'd do.

[Jack Flash]

If you want someone to fit this style of play we might as well buy Barton, Nolan, Carroll and Enrique back and sell Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Cisse and Santon....

 

Yay for bottom half finishes.

 

West Ham are currently 6th. 4 points ahead of us. They've just beaten us. At home. Nolan scored the winner.

 

(plus their goal difference is +3 when ours is -3)

[Hughesy]

To compare Nolan to Cabaye is embarrassing.  We've had this debate before.  Nolan is an extremely limited player who will score 10 goals a season.  Other than that, he offers little.

 

He scored a winner yesterday and played Carroll through for a 1 on 1. No idea what Cabaye did.

 

Nolan's goals will keep West Ham up. Same as his goals helped them get promoted last year so he's far from "extremely limited". I shouldn't need to say what he did for us.

 

He has a role in lower to mid table team and is a good player at that level.  But I'm afraid he is a limited footballer.  He is slow, unfit and not that good technically.  What he has in his favour is that he is positionally good and is a good finisher.

 

But where do you play him?  He can't play in a midfield two.  You have to build a team around him and hope that his 10 goals is worth it.

 

If we had a manager who could operate different formations/systems he'd be a very useful player. Most teams rotate their system and certain players for certain games but we either don't or can't. We're as predictable as any team in the league at the minute and our only plan B is bring on Shola. Having a different game plan as a plan B seems like a luxury when it's the norm at most clubs.

 

How many people, without irony or sarcasm, though Nolan would score yesterday? The pre-match thread is full of that and he's still written off despite doing what we all said he'd do.

 

Not sure any club would want to give their 29 year old Plan B a five year contract with wages of 50k a week.

[Mole_Toonfan]

If you want someone to fit this style of play we might as well buy Barton, Nolan, Carroll and Enrique back and sell Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Cisse and Santon....

 

Yay for bottom half finishes.

 

West Ham are currently 6th. 4 points ahead of us. They've just beaten us. At home. Nolan scored the winner.

 

(plus their goal difference is +3 when ours is -3)

 

Yep and West Ham are going to stay there all season

[Jack Flash]

To compare Nolan to Cabaye is embarrassing.  We've had this debate before.  Nolan is an extremely limited player who will score 10 goals a season.  Other than that, he offers little.

 

He scored a winner yesterday and played Carroll through for a 1 on 1. No idea what Cabaye did.

 

Nolan's goals will keep West Ham up. Same as his goals helped them get promoted last year so he's far from "extremely limited". I shouldn't need to say what he did for us.

 

He has a role in lower to mid table team and is a good player at that level.  But I'm afraid he is a limited footballer.  He is slow, unfit and not that good technically.  What he has in his favour is that he is positionally good and is a good finisher.

 

But where do you play him?  He can't play in a midfield two.  You have to build a team around him and hope that his 10 goals is worth it.

 

If we had a manager who could operate different formations/systems he'd be a very useful player. Most teams rotate their system and certain players for certain games but we either don't or can't. We're as predictable as any team in the league at the minute and our only plan B is bring on Shola. Having a different game plan as a plan B seems like a luxury when it's the norm at most clubs.

 

How many people, without irony or sarcasm, though Nolan would score yesterday? The pre-match thread is full of that and he's still written off despite doing what we all said he'd do.

 

Not sure any club would want to give their 29 year old Plan B a five year contract with wages of 50k a week.

 

There wouldn't be a set plan A and a plan B if used correctly. Whatever system fits the next game would be plan A.

 

If we're talking paying loads for a plan B then i'll meet you in the Anita thread.

[Jagten]

If we're talking paying loads for a plan B then i'll meet you in the Anita thread.

Anita's a plan B?

[Jack Flash]

If you want someone to fit this style of play we might as well buy Barton, Nolan, Carroll and Enrique back and sell Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Cisse and Santon....

 

Yay for bottom half finishes.

 

West Ham are currently 6th. 4 points ahead of us. They've just beaten us. At home. Nolan scored the winner.

 

(plus their goal difference is +3 when ours is -3)

 

Yep and West Ham are going to stay there all season

 

They're there now and that's all they can do. Avoiding relegation is their aim and they've probably already done that by November.

[Jack Flash]

If we're talking paying loads for a plan B then i'll meet you in the Anita thread.

Anita's a plan B?

 

Tiote and Cabaye are the starters when available and that won't change. Anita is even sometimes behind Perch*. He was a strange signing and it's an even stranger one now we've seen how we're playing.

 

edit - *add Jonas and Bigi to that too.

[taxfree]

If you want someone to fit this style of play we might as well buy Barton, Nolan, Carroll and Enrique back and sell Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Cisse and Santon....

 

Yay for bottom half finishes.

 

West Ham are currently 6th. 4 points ahead of us. They've just beaten us. At home. Nolan scored the winner.

 

(plus their goal difference is +3 when ours is -3)

 

Yep and West Ham are going to stay there all season

 

They're there now and that's all they can do. Avoiding relegation is their aim and they've probably already done that by November.

 

10th, according to Vaz Te, but hey..

 

They are absolutely nothing special though. As seen against us too. We just somehow managed to be even worse.

[Jagten]

If we're talking paying loads for a plan B then i'll meet you in the Anita thread.

Anita's a plan B?

 

Tiote and Cabaye are the starters when available and that won't change. Anita is even sometimes behind Perch*. He was a strange signing and it's an even stranger one now we've seen how we're playing.

 

edit - *add Jonas and Bigi to that too.

Tiote and Cabaye are definite starters, yes, but it's impossible to determine what midfield system we will use. His signing was strange when you consider the role he's been asked to perform in Pardew's dire setup, but I would like to think we will eventually incorporate him into our XI and begin to use him properly. I wouldn't really describe him as a plan B.

[rnmag]

I have been disappointed with Cabaye over the last few games at home. I hate to watch this long ball hoof it up from our defenders and keeper but can you blame them? The midfield looked non existent when we were in possession at the back. I think he needed to take some responsibility and start asking for the ball from defenders and get the ball sprayed about, create chances like we all know he is more than capable of. Even more so in games like yesterday when we are a goal down at home. You need to start asking questions when you have the likes of ba dropping into midfield to pick up the ball and create chances, which started to happen towards the later stages of the game. 

 

 

[Mole_Toonfan]

I have been disappointed with Cabaye over the last few games at home. I hate to watch this long ball hoof it up from our defenders and keeper but can you blame them? The midfield looked non existent when we were in possession at the back. I think he needed to take some responsibility and start asking for the ball from defenders and get the ball sprayed about, create chances like we all know he is more than capable of. Even more so in games like yesterday when we are a goal down at home. You need to start asking questions when you have the likes of ba dropping into midfield to pick up the ball and create chances, which started to happen towards the later stages of the game.

 

That's not really a Cabaye issue that's more of a team issue, the whole team looks devoid of movement of link up play and starts with Pardew and the backroom staff.

 

It's easy to blame certain players but quite honestly at this moment in time it's the team as a whole that's an issue than an any individual.

[Mick]

Some people would rather have Nolan than Cabaye. 

[Guest BooBoo]

Some people would rather have Nolan than Cabaye. 

 

We need to cross breed them. It's the only answer.

 

Cabaye's a much better footballer but strikes me as mentally soft and gets in the box less than the Pope. Nolan will probably hit double figures this year, Cabaye will likely get four or five.

[High Five o]

Some people would rather have Nolan than Cabaye. 

 

Crazy isn't it 

 

 

[Mick]

 

We need to cross breed them. It's the only answer.

 

Cabaye's a much better footballer but strikes me as mentally soft and gets in the box less than the Pope. Nolan will probably hit double figures this year, Cabaye will likely get four or five.

 

Cabaye will do well to get 4 when he's constantly starting his move from the edge of his own box, Nolan would have to set off 2 or 3 moves early to get from his own box to the opposition box.

[Jagten]

Some people would rather have Nolan than Cabaye. 

I know. 

[Ronaldo]

Cabaye's the better player by a mile and the replacement was wonderful wonderful business, but if we're playing long ball stuff Cabaye's virtually a hindrance and Nolan would be ideal, frankly. Pains me to type those words but there you go.

[Hanshithispantz]

Nolan would have to replace either Ba or Cisse in our system anyway, not Cabaye, so it's a daft argument. Nolan would not be free scoring if he was tasked with Cabaye's responsibilities.