Syrette Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 If Duff also wants to take a break that's fine. ... and Shola of course Why on earth do people say these things? Do you understand how thin and injury-prone our squad is? Clearly not, since you actually wish injury on players. Getting rid of them won't help anything, managing them properly would. Don't you think we're better off with Martins and Dyer/Sibiersky than with Shola up front? Statistically, no. Sholas scored as many as Sibi. It's the fact that some of you want MORE players out injured. This shouldn't be the case. It's Roeder's fault; he should be playing the better partnerships/more in-form player, not just who he thinks is the better player (ie. he'll automatically play Carr ahead of Solano at RB, Parker ahead of Butt at DM etc). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 If Duff also wants to take a break that's fine. ... and Shola of course Why on earth do people say these things? Because this is textbook Newcastle: Zoggy finally given a run in the team this season will go from stength to strength and put in quality and confident displays. And as soon as Duff is match fit again, Roeder will dump Zog back out of the team and start Duffers on the left every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Good news for the team Yes, you're so right. I forget how in depth our squad is. So many fit and uninjured players, I'm sure we won't miss him. Why don't you quote the entire sentence? Anyway, i'd much rather Parker was injured if it means Butt and Emre start in our priority games, and perform like they did today. If it means Pattison has to cover in some insignificant ones, so be it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Why don't you quote the entire sentence? Because I was mainly concentrating on the quoted section of what you posted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Why don't you quote the entire sentence? Because I was mainly concentrating on the quoted section of what you posted? I said it was good news due to the second half of the sentence, so you either had trouble finishing it or decided to leave it out to add weight to your point? Obviously, i would prefer Parker to be fit and provide cover for midfield. However, Roeder simply won't drop him (no matter how well Emre and Butt play), so ultimately it's good for the team if he's unavailable for selection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Why don't you quote the entire sentence? Because I was mainly concentrating on the quoted section of what you posted? I said it was good news due to the second half of the sentence, so you either had trouble finishing it or decided to leave it out to add weight to your point? Obviously, i would prefer Parker to be fit and provide cover for midfield. However, Roeder simply won't drop him (no matter how well Emre and Butt play), so ultimately it's good for the team if he's unavailable for selection. But I've already noted that above - it's Roeder's problem, he needs to sort it out. Just having the players out injured isn't the way forward, as I know you know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DONTOONER Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 They just have to sort out thier plays... should never hope for our players to be injured. Twats~! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toon tone rudeboy Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I wasn't able to see the game today, when Parker was taken out of the game, who got the captain's band? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Given i think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 It was Given, yeap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Why don't you quote the entire sentence? Because I was mainly concentrating on the quoted section of what you posted? I said it was good news due to the second half of the sentence, so you either had trouble finishing it or decided to leave it out to add weight to your point? Obviously, i would prefer Parker to be fit and provide cover for midfield. However, Roeder simply won't drop him (no matter how well Emre and Butt play), so ultimately it's good for the team if he's unavailable for selection. But I've already noted that above - it's Roeder's problem, he needs to sort it out. But as i've already said, i think he's incapable of doing so... we'll find out soon enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Don't rush back Scotty, we're better off without you. Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I just can't see why Parker can't sit deep, where i think he's much better. Butt's position and allow Emre top boss the midfield - which he is so good at. Because it's a specialist role, it's not as easy as it looks and comes naturally to some players and is alien to others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I just can't see why Parker can't sit deep, where i think he's much better. Butt's position and allow Emre top boss the midfield - which he is so good at. Because it's a specialist role, it's not as easy as it looks and comes naturally to some players and is alien to others. He did alright there last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheOrder Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 This thread is sad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I just can't see why Parker can't sit deep, where i think he's much better. Butt's position and allow Emre top boss the midfield - which he is so good at. The coaching staff need to spot that Emre is better getting forward and coach Parker to hold properly. How do you do that, Dave? Seriously? It's like saying the coaching staff should turn Ameobi into a Shearer like goal machine. There has to be some talent for the role to begin with, but in Parkers case, there's none as a holding midfielder. He's not a holding midfielder at all. The only reason people seem to think he can do that role is because he throws himself into tackles. I don't think he's better than average at anything else a midfielder does either. Does he drive forward the way Emre was doing? And the way Dyer was doing when he drifted inside today? No, he doesn't do those things and that's because he doesn't have the ability. It's nowt to do with the coaching staff, mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Why can't they tell him to occupy a particular area and not stray from that area? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I just can't see why Parker can't sit deep, where i think he's much better. Butt's position and allow Emre top boss the midfield - which he is so good at. Because it's a specialist role, it's not as easy as it looks and comes naturally to some players and is alien to others. He did alright there last season. I don't agree. We always looked better without him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Why can't they tell him that his only tasks are to win the ball and make simple passes to others? He can do both of those things. At the moment he's trying to do everything, and mastering nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Why can't they tell him to occupy a particular area and not stray from that area? Errr, well what if they are doing that but he's not doing it? How do you know? In any case, just telling a player to occupy a certain area doesn't make him a good quality holding midfielder. They could tell me to occupy that area and I'd do it, but I'd be shit at that level of football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 i think it needs mentioning how much malcom macdonald got slated for his slatings of parker last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Why can't they tell him to occupy a particular area and not stray from that area? Errr, well what if they are doing that but he's not doing it? How do you know? In any case, just telling a player to occupy a certain area doesn't make him a good quality holding midfielder. They could tell me to occupy that area and I'd do it, but I'd be shit at that level of football. Obviously I don't know what they are telling him. Nobody on here can know. If we go on that basis then there wouldn't be any discussion. At the moment he seems to be running himself into the ground and not really doing anything; Jack of all trades, master of none. I'm pointing my finger at the coaching staff, as in my opinion that's where the fault lies. Doesn't mean i'm right. Butt hasn't the energy, commitment, skill or goal threat of Parker (he has scored goals this season and previously), but he can do the simple things and works well - within his capabilities. Things that Parker should be capable of. I think that Parker should be in the first team, but at this time he's not deserving to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 i think it needs mentioning how much malcom macdonald got slated for his slatings of parker last season. It's worth mentioning that he should should get slated everytime he opens his gob no matter what he says. In my opinion. The way the joker tries to cling to some affiliation with the NE based on 3 seasons at the club is pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 he seems to have said been right about parker though blueyes.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Why can't they tell him to occupy a particular area and not stray from that area? Errr, well what if they are doing that but he's not doing it? How do you know? In any case, just telling a player to occupy a certain area doesn't make him a good quality holding midfielder. They could tell me to occupy that area and I'd do it, but I'd be shit at that level of football. Obviously I don't know what they are telling him. Nobody on here can know. If we go on that basis then there wouldn't be any discussion. At the moment he seems to be running himself into the ground and not really doing anything; Jack of all trades, master of none. I'm pointing my finger at the coaching staff, as in my opinion that's where the fault lies. Doesn't mean i'm right. Butt hasn't the energy, commitment, skill or goal threat of Parker (he has scored goals this season and previously), but he can do the simple things and works well - within his capabilities. Things that Parker should be capable of. I think that Parker should be in the first team, but at this time he's not deserving to be. Well we won't agree. I think Parker has very liimited abililty, you think it's down to the coaching staff. I don't care whether or not Butt has any goal threat, what we need is a proper holding midfielder and Butt is the only one we have. He doesn't have to have any goal threat, just the fact he can do the job properly will enable the entire team to function better and that will bring about a greater goal threat. As it happens though Parker has very little goal threat imo. Just check how many goals he's scored during his career and you'll see what I mean. I don't think he's even reached double figures over about 5 or 6 seasons. If he has then it's only just into double figures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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