Vurnon Anita (now playing for RKC Waalwijk)

[Geordie Ahmed]

 

 

 

We shouldn't use Colback's s***ness as a way of praising Anita. Just forget about Colback for a moment and say what the f*** it is that Anita brings. Detest the word "tidy" to sum up a positive for a central midfielder.  You need so much more than that.

 

Reads the game very well, to the point you rarely have to see him off his feet diving into tackles because he's already there. Presses the opposition very well and doesn't just run around after the ball. And the tidiness you detest is a job which someone has to do to tick over the play from the back and he's good at it.

 

You might want to forget about Colback but you just can't. A lot of the time Anita is actually looking to cover out for his shitness or lack of positional sense. Tiote isn't intelligent enough on the football pitch to look after Colback. Be very surprised if that doesn't become glaringly obvious in the upcoming games if those two are selected which they most likely will be.

 

He's hopeless man. Been here ages and you can count on one hand the amount of good games he's had in that time. Total non entity of a player. Doesn't score goals, doesn't create goals, not a great tackler and more often than not you struggle to realise he's actually on the pitch which should never be the case for a player who plays in such a prominent position. We need a completely new central midfield and we need it quickly otherwise we are down.

 

You're obvious not intelligent enough to appreciate him!

Seriously though "total non entity of a player" sums him up. Sometimes when people say he's had a good game I'm totally baffled because he seems to be  as ineffective in pretty much every game.

 

That's just not true, he has had good games, more than a handful

 

He needs upgrading BUT he is not a complete liability like Jack Colback

 

If you think he is ineffective in pretty much every game then aye I would question your intelligence

[ilikenewcastle]

 

 

 

We shouldn't use Colback's s***ness as a way of praising Anita. Just forget about Colback for a moment and say what the f*** it is that Anita brings. Detest the word "tidy" to sum up a positive for a central midfielder.  You need so much more than that.

 

Reads the game very well, to the point you rarely have to see him off his feet diving into tackles because he's already there. Presses the opposition very well and doesn't just run around after the ball. And the tidiness you detest is a job which someone has to do to tick over the play from the back and he's good at it.

 

You might want to forget about Colback but you just can't. A lot of the time Anita is actually looking to cover out for his shitness or lack of positional sense. Tiote isn't intelligent enough on the football pitch to look after Colback. Be very surprised if that doesn't become glaringly obvious in the upcoming games if those two are selected which they most likely will be.

 

He's hopeless man. Been here ages and you can count on one hand the amount of good games he's had in that time. Total non entity of a player. Doesn't score goals, doesn't create goals, not a great tackler and more often than not you struggle to realise he's actually on the pitch which should never be the case for a player who plays in such a prominent position. We need a completely new central midfield and we need it quickly otherwise we are down.

 

You're obvious not intelligent enough to appreciate him!

Seriously though "total non entity of a player" sums him up. Sometimes when people say he's had a good game I'm totally baffled because he seems to be  as ineffective in pretty much every game.

 

That's just not true, he has had good games, more than a handful

 

He needs upgrading BUT he is not a complete liability like Jack Colback

 

If you think he is ineffective in pretty much every game then aye I would question your intelligence

 

As has already been said, you could count on one hand the number of good games he's had.

 

I think that's what the inflated opinion of Anita on here comes down to. Failure to appreciate Anita could be seen as approving of the dreaded Colback! In truth both are rubbish. Both have contributed the same amount to the team (very little).

[BrettNUFC]

De Jong and Anita get unfair stick when it comes to their ability to play football. Aye, they might not be at their best for us but if you're not used correctly and given confidence to play your best football, it's an uphill difficult task. Anita was awfully treated by Pardew, play well then dropped, play poorly and heavily criticised, long periods on the bench or always first off etc. Horrible. McClaren has shown more faith and Anita has improved for it but he shouldn't be in a two man midfield, especially not beside Colback.

 

Our fans are so quick to slag you off if you're not physically strong enough or quick enough for the best league in the world. It's bullshit tbh and it's a reason why England are dreadful at the big tournaments because we don't produce enough players with technical ability, which Anita and De Jong are naturals at. I couldn't question their technical ability and reading of the game. I'd take that over the the British bulldog spirit any day of the week.

[Wallsendmag]

Colback actually has more goals and assists to his name than Anita and he hasn't been here anywhere near as long. And he's completely out of his depth as well. Like I said both need replacing quickly if we're to stand any chance of stopping up.

[Guest reefatoon]

One of the worst midfield performances this season was against Leicester when Tiote went off and Gini moved inside alongside Anita. It was horrific. Anita looks slightly less shit when someone is there wiping his arse. Take that away and he is like a rabbit caught in headlights. We need one good player in there to do the job of Anita and Colback, you can't count on either of them to step up and take control.

[Guest reefatoon]

De Jong and Anita get unfair stick when it comes to their ability to play football. Aye, they might not be at their best for us but if you're not used correctly and given confidence to play your best football, it's an uphill difficult task. Anita was awfully treated by Pardew, play well then dropped, play poorly and heavily criticised, long periods on the bench or always first off etc. Horrible. McClaren has shown more faith and Anita has improved for it but he shouldn't be in a two man midfield, especially not beside Colback.

 

Our fans are so quick to slag you off if you're not physically strong enough or quick enough for the best league in the world. It's bullshit tbh and it's a reason why England are dreadful at the big tournaments because we don't produce enough players with technical ability, which Anita and De Jong are naturals at. I couldn't question their technical ability and reading of the game. I'd take that over the the British bulldog spirit any day of the week.

 

you are a right card you mind. Still think you have taken football up as a hobby only recently like. It just all seems to pass you by.

[Geordie Ahmed]

 

 

 

 

 

We shouldn't use Colback's s***ness as a way of praising Anita. Just forget about Colback for a moment and say what the f*** it is that Anita brings. Detest the word "tidy" to sum up a positive for a central midfielder.  You need so much more than that.

 

Reads the game very well, to the point you rarely have to see him off his feet diving into tackles because he's already there. Presses the opposition very well and doesn't just run around after the ball. And the tidiness you detest is a job which someone has to do to tick over the play from the back and he's good at it.

 

You might want to forget about Colback but you just can't. A lot of the time Anita is actually looking to cover out for his shitness or lack of positional sense. Tiote isn't intelligent enough on the football pitch to look after Colback. Be very surprised if that doesn't become glaringly obvious in the upcoming games if those two are selected which they most likely will be.

 

He's hopeless man. Been here ages and you can count on one hand the amount of good games he's had in that time. Total non entity of a player. Doesn't score goals, doesn't create goals, not a great tackler and more often than not you struggle to realise he's actually on the pitch which should never be the case for a player who plays in such a prominent position. We need a completely new central midfield and we need it quickly otherwise we are down.

 

You're obvious not intelligent enough to appreciate him!

Seriously though "total non entity of a player" sums him up. Sometimes when people say he's had a good game I'm totally baffled because he seems to be  as ineffective in pretty much every game.

 

That's just not true, he has had good games, more than a handful

 

He needs upgrading BUT he is not a complete liability like Jack Colback

 

If you think he is ineffective in pretty much every game then aye I would question your intelligence

 

As has already been said, you could count on one hand the number of good games he's had.

 

I think that's what the inflated opinion of Anita on here comes down to. Failure to appreciate Anita could be seen as approving of the dreaded Colback! In truth both are rubbish. Both have contributed the same amount to the team (very little).

 

Only if you're a Mackem

[triggs]

De Jong and Anita get unfair stick when it comes to their ability to play football. Aye, they might not be at their best for us but if you're not used correctly and given confidence to play your best football, it's an uphill difficult task. Anita was awfully treated by Pardew, play well then dropped, play poorly and heavily criticised, long periods on the bench or always first off etc. Horrible. McClaren has shown more faith and Anita has improved for it but he shouldn't be in a two man midfield, especially not beside Colback.

 

Our fans are so quick to slag you off if you're not physically strong enough or quick enough for the best league in the world. It's bullshit tbh and it's a reason why England are dreadful at the big tournaments because we don't produce enough players with technical ability, which Anita and De Jong are naturals at. I couldn't question their technical ability and reading of the game. I'd take that over the the British bulldog spirit any day of the week.

Neither Anita nor De Jong (in his present state) would get near the English squad no matter what kind of game you want to play

[ilikenewcastle]

 

 

 

 

 

We shouldn't use Colback's s***ness as a way of praising Anita. Just forget about Colback for a moment and say what the f*** it is that Anita brings. Detest the word "tidy" to sum up a positive for a central midfielder.  You need so much more than that.

 

Reads the game very well, to the point you rarely have to see him off his feet diving into tackles because he's already there. Presses the opposition very well and doesn't just run around after the ball. And the tidiness you detest is a job which someone has to do to tick over the play from the back and he's good at it.

 

You might want to forget about Colback but you just can't. A lot of the time Anita is actually looking to cover out for his shitness or lack of positional sense. Tiote isn't intelligent enough on the football pitch to look after Colback. Be very surprised if that doesn't become glaringly obvious in the upcoming games if those two are selected which they most likely will be.

 

He's hopeless man. Been here ages and you can count on one hand the amount of good games he's had in that time. Total non entity of a player. Doesn't score goals, doesn't create goals, not a great tackler and more often than not you struggle to realise he's actually on the pitch which should never be the case for a player who plays in such a prominent position. We need a completely new central midfield and we need it quickly otherwise we are down.

 

You're obvious not intelligent enough to appreciate him!

Seriously though "total non entity of a player" sums him up. Sometimes when people say he's had a good game I'm totally baffled because he seems to be  as ineffective in pretty much every game.

 

That's just not true, he has had good games, more than a handful

 

He needs upgrading BUT he is not a complete liability like Jack Colback

 

If you think he is ineffective in pretty much every game then aye I would question your intelligence

 

As has already been said, you could count on one hand the number of good games he's had.

 

I think that's what the inflated opinion of Anita on here comes down to. Failure to appreciate Anita could be seen as approving of the dreaded Colback! In truth both are rubbish. Both have contributed the same amount to the team (very little).

 

Only if you're a Mackem

 

Good one!

Care to list some of his good games?

[The College Dropout]

 

 

 

We shouldn't use Colback's s***ness as a way of praising Anita. Just forget about Colback for a moment and say what the f*** it is that Anita brings. Detest the word "tidy" to sum up a positive for a central midfielder.  You need so much more than that.

 

Reads the game very well, to the point you rarely have to see him off his feet diving into tackles because he's already there. Presses the opposition very well and doesn't just run around after the ball. And the tidiness you detest is a job which someone has to do to tick over the play from the back and he's good at it.

 

You might want to forget about Colback but you just can't. A lot of the time Anita is actually looking to cover out for his shitness or lack of positional sense. Tiote isn't intelligent enough on the football pitch to look after Colback. Be very surprised if that doesn't become glaringly obvious in the upcoming games if those two are selected which they most likely will be.

 

He's hopeless man. Been here ages and you can count on one hand the amount of good games he's had in that time. Total non entity of a player. Doesn't score goals, doesn't create goals, not a great tackler and more often than not you struggle to realise he's actually on the pitch which should never be the case for a player who plays in such a prominent position. We need a completely new central midfield and we need it quickly otherwise we are down.

 

You're obvious not intelligent enough to appreciate him!

Seriously though "total non entity of a player" sums him up. Sometimes when people say he's had a good game I'm totally baffled because he seems to be  as ineffective in pretty much every game.

 

That's just not true, he has had good games, more than a handful

 

He needs upgrading BUT he is not a complete liability like Jack Colback

 

If you think he is ineffective in pretty much every game then aye I would question your intelligence

 

As has already been said, you could count on one hand the number of good games he's had.

 

I think that's what the inflated opinion of Anita on here comes down to. Failure to appreciate Anita could be seen as approving of the dreaded Colback! In truth both are rubbish. Both have contributed the same amount to the team (very little).

IMO it's the ex-Ajax "Dutch international" that has given people the idea that he's good. Hollow words like "technical" are used to describe his playing style. I think that means "good first touch, can pass ball crisply 6 yards" that's what he's good at. He's as "technical" as Jermaine Jenas and is even less likely to impact a game.

 

If you don't appreciate Anita, you must love Cattermole or something. That's almost literally what Brett is saying. I think some of it is Pardew hate as well.

[BrettNUFC]

I'm not saying they would given their current form. Their natural ability is what we lack in abundance over here though. It's the myth around the PL that is the problem.

 

Ozil's the best recent example. How much criticism he came in for. Questions around his physicality, his pace, his stamina, his athleticism. Now they're saying he's the best player in the league

[triggs]

Unbelievable will know better than me like but I think I remember reading or hearing at the time Cruyff got back involved at Ajax that the thing he was unhappy about was that Ajax were bringing through players with good technical ability but there was nothing special about any of them. They all had a very good touch and could keep possession but there was no real substance to them or any real creativity like Bergkamp, Seedorf etc.

 

This is what I think of Anita, he's a decent player technically, good at passing it short but there just isn't anything to him. He can't play a long pass, he keeps it safe, he can't get up and down the pitch, he presses alright but you never really expect him to win the ball high up the pitch

[ilikenewcastle]

De Jong and Anita get unfair stick when it comes to their ability to play football. Aye, they might not be at their best for us but if you're not used correctly and given confidence to play your best football, it's an uphill difficult task. Anita was awfully treated by Pardew, play well then dropped, play poorly and heavily criticised, long periods on the bench or always first off etc. Horrible. McClaren has shown more faith and Anita has improved for it but he shouldn't be in a two man midfield, especially not beside Colback.

 

Our fans are so quick to slag you off if you're not physically strong enough or quick enough for the best league in the world. It's bullshit tbh and it's a reason why England are dreadful at the big tournaments because we don't produce enough players with technical ability, which Anita and De Jong are naturals at. I couldn't question their technical ability and reading of the game. I'd take that over the the British bulldog spirit any day of the week.

Neither Anita nor De Jong (in his present state) would get near the English squad no matter what kind of game you want to play

 

And the argument kinda falls apart when you look at the current state of Anita and De Jong's national team...

[triggs]

I'm not saying they would given their current form. Their natural ability is what we lack in abundance over here though. It's the myth around the PL that is the problem.

 

Ozil's the best recent example. How much criticism he came in for. Questions around his physicality, his pace, his stamina, his athleticism. Now they're saying he's the best player in the league

Comparing Ozil to Anita or De Jong is hilarious

[BrettNUFC]

I've not compared them at all. I was questioning the PL and why people think pace is needed, or strength or height. Ozil was an example on how he had those thrown at him for a long time and he's put that theory to bed. For example I seen someone say in the Mitro thread that he probably won't make it because he has no pace Ffs man! You could flick a number examples out in this thread about Anita's height or strength. Go in the De Jong thread and be questioning how athletic he is for this league. The Premier League is nothing special, if you're technically gifted, in the right system, in the right team, playing with confidence, you'll be fine regardless if you lack pace, strength or height etc. Swansea did alright with Joe Allen, Leon Britton and Mark Gower.

[magpie1892]

IMO it's the ex-Ajax "Dutch international" that has given people the idea that he's good. Hollow words like "technical" are used to describe his playing style. I think that means "good first touch, can pass ball crisply 6 yards" that's what he's good at. He's as "technical" as Jermaine Jenas and is even less likely to impact a game.

 

If you'd seen him play - every week - for Ajax before he signed for us you would (it's hoped) have a very different opinion of Anita and what he can do.

 

The Ajax team of 2011-12 would, of course, have put six or seven past its NUFC counterpart.

[triggs]

I've not compared them at all. I was questioning the PL and why people think pace is needed, or strength or height. Ozil was an example on how he had those thrown at him for a long time and he's put that theory to bed. For example I seen someone say in the Mitro thread that he probably won't make it because he has no pace Ffs man! You could flick a number examples out in this thread about Anita's height or strength. Go in the De Jong thread and be questioning how athletic he is for this league. The Premier League is nothing special, if you're technically gifted, in the right system, in the right team, playing with confidence, you'll be fine regardless if you lack pace, strength or height etc. Swansea did alright with Joe Allen, Leon Britton and Mark Gower.

My problem with him is mainly his lack of being able to pass more than five yards not physicality

[Jaqen]

I've not compared them at all. I was questioning the PL and why people think pace is needed, or strength or height. Ozil was an example on how he had those thrown at him for a long time and he's put that theory to bed. For example I seen someone say in the Mitro thread that he probably won't make it because he has no pace Ffs man! You could flick a number examples out in this thread about Anita's height or strength. Go in the De Jong thread and be questioning how athletic he is for this league. The Premier League is nothing special, if you're technically gifted, in the right system, in the right team, playing with confidence, you'll be fine regardless if you lack pace, strength or height etc. Swansea did alright with Joe Allen, Leon Britton and Mark Gower.

My problem with him is mainly his lack of being able to pass more than five yards not physicality

 

Coloccini actually looks more threatening when he carries the ball forward and will usually spot and pick out a better pass. With Anita and Colback on the ball there's absolutely no threat.

[magpie1892]

I've not compared them at all. I was questioning the PL and why people think pace is needed, or strength or height. Ozil was an example on how he had those thrown at him for a long time and he's put that theory to bed. For example I seen someone say in the Mitro thread that he probably won't make it because he has no pace Ffs man! You could flick a number examples out in this thread about Anita's height or strength. Go in the De Jong thread and be questioning how athletic he is for this league. The Premier League is nothing special, if you're technically gifted, in the right system, in the right team, playing with confidence, you'll be fine regardless if you lack pace, strength or height etc. Swansea did alright with Joe Allen, Leon Britton and Mark Gower.

My problem with him is mainly his lack of being able to pass more than five yards not physicality

 

As per my previous comment, that's utter bullshit. I've seen him play multiple, pinpoint 40-yarders out of midfield game after game for Ajax.

 

Your point stretches credulity even at SJP, though I can see where you're coming from, but in Anita we've procured, and ruined, yet another player. How that reflects poorly on Anita himself I know not.

[Wallsendmag]

I've not compared them at all. I was questioning the PL and why people think pace is needed, or strength or height. Ozil was an example on how he had those thrown at him for a long time and he's put that theory to bed. For example I seen someone say in the Mitro thread that he probably won't make it because he has no pace Ffs man! You could flick a number examples out in this thread about Anita's height or strength. Go in the De Jong thread and be questioning how athletic he is for this league. The Premier League is nothing special, if you're technically gifted, in the right system, in the right team, playing with confidence, you'll be fine regardless if you lack pace, strength or height etc. Swansea did alright with Joe Allen, Leon Britton and Mark Gower.

My problem with him is mainly his lack of being able to pass more than five yards not physicality

 

As per my previous answer, that's utter bullshit. I've seen him play multiple, pinpoint 40-yarders out of midfield game after game for Ajax.

 

Your point stretches credulity even at SJP, though I can see where you're coming from, but in Anita we've procured, and ruined, yet another player. How that reflects poorly on Anita himself I know not.

 

He was up against piss poor opponents when he played for Ajax. They walk through most of their games having enjoyed 70-75% possession of the ball. Doesn't make him good enough to play in the Premier league and he's been found wanting at a higher level.

[magpie1892]

I've not compared them at all. I was questioning the PL and why people think pace is needed, or strength or height. Ozil was an example on how he had those thrown at him for a long time and he's put that theory to bed. For example I seen someone say in the Mitro thread that he probably won't make it because he has no pace Ffs man! You could flick a number examples out in this thread about Anita's height or strength. Go in the De Jong thread and be questioning how athletic he is for this league. The Premier League is nothing special, if you're technically gifted, in the right system, in the right team, playing with confidence, you'll be fine regardless if you lack pace, strength or height etc. Swansea did alright with Joe Allen, Leon Britton and Mark Gower.

My problem with him is mainly his lack of being able to pass more than five yards not physicality

 

As per my previous answer, that's utter bullshit. I've seen him play multiple, pinpoint 40-yarders out of midfield game after game for Ajax.

 

Your point stretches credulity even at SJP, though I can see where you're coming from, but in Anita we've procured, and ruined, yet another player. How that reflects poorly on Anita himself I know not.

 

He was up against p*ss poor opponents when he played for Ajax. They walk through most of their games having enjoyed 70-75% possession of the ball. Doesn't make him good enough to play in the Premier league and he's been found wanting at a higher level.

 

Aye, Feyenoord and PSV would never get near the EPL with luminaries like ourselves, villa, bournemouth and the mackems barring the way.

 

Found wanting? No. Played out of position, played fleetingly, Pardewed - yes.

 

If he were playing in an EPL team that wasn't the epitome of embarrassment then people would be singing a different song.

[BrettNUFC]

Anita's just another player who arrived and I was excited to see but has been destroyed. We have a nasty habit of signing young talented prospects and not utilising them correctly or playing to their strengths. This ends up with our own fans hating them and wanting them out the door. Mitro and Thauvin are the next couple to be subject of the abuse. It's started slightly already with fans turning on them.

[Wallsendmag]

I've not compared them at all. I was questioning the PL and why people think pace is needed, or strength or height. Ozil was an example on how he had those thrown at him for a long time and he's put that theory to bed. For example I seen someone say in the Mitro thread that he probably won't make it because he has no pace Ffs man! You could flick a number examples out in this thread about Anita's height or strength. Go in the De Jong thread and be questioning how athletic he is for this league. The Premier League is nothing special, if you're technically gifted, in the right system, in the right team, playing with confidence, you'll be fine regardless if you lack pace, strength or height etc. Swansea did alright with Joe Allen, Leon Britton and Mark Gower.

My problem with him is mainly his lack of being able to pass more than five yards not physicality

 

As per my previous answer, that's utter bullshit. I've seen him play multiple, pinpoint 40-yarders out of midfield game after game for Ajax.

 

Your point stretches credulity even at SJP, though I can see where you're coming from, but in Anita we've procured, and ruined, yet another player. How that reflects poorly on Anita himself I know not.

 

He was up against p*ss poor opponents when he played for Ajax. They walk through most of their games having enjoyed 70-75% possession of the ball. Doesn't make him good enough to play in the Premier league and he's been found wanting at a higher level.

 

Aye, Feyenoord and PSV would never get near the EPL with luminaries like ourselves, villa, bournemouth and the mackems barring the way.

 

Found wanting? No. Played out of position, played fleetingly, Pardewed - yes.

 

If he were playing in an EPL team that wasn't the epitome of embarrassment then people would be singing a different song.

 

Your average Eredivisie team (PSV and Ajax aside) would be League 1 standard. That's why they always go out of Europe early on. One of them even went out to a Scottish team last year (Aberdeen) and it's only ranked as Europes 9th strongest league these days. Believe me it's dross and being a good player there proves nothing, as we have found out.

[magpie1892]

Anita's just another player who arrived and I was excited to see but has been destroyed. We have a nasty habit of signing young talented prospects and not utilising them correctly or playing to their strengths. This ends up with our own fans hating them and wanting them out the door. Mitro and Thauvin are the next couple to be subject of the abuse. It's started slightly already with fans turning on them.

 

I was really excited when we signed him. I was living in Amsterdam at the time and working at the Arena for 90% of Ajax games and he caught the eye every game long before we picked him up and destroyed him as we have done to so many players before and since.

 

Anita was absolutely peerless in get-and-give, fast, strong in the tackle and his range of passing was phenomenal. Another roaring success for the NUFC 'coaching' and 'management' team.

[magpie1892]

I've not compared them at all. I was questioning the PL and why people think pace is needed, or strength or height. Ozil was an example on how he had those thrown at him for a long time and he's put that theory to bed. For example I seen someone say in the Mitro thread that he probably won't make it because he has no pace Ffs man! You could flick a number examples out in this thread about Anita's height or strength. Go in the De Jong thread and be questioning how athletic he is for this league. The Premier League is nothing special, if you're technically gifted, in the right system, in the right team, playing with confidence, you'll be fine regardless if you lack pace, strength or height etc. Swansea did alright with Joe Allen, Leon Britton and Mark Gower.

My problem with him is mainly his lack of being able to pass more than five yards not physicality

 

As per my previous answer, that's utter bullshit. I've seen him play multiple, pinpoint 40-yarders out of midfield game after game for Ajax.

 

Your point stretches credulity even at SJP, though I can see where you're coming from, but in Anita we've procured, and ruined, yet another player. How that reflects poorly on Anita himself I know not.

 

He was up against p*ss poor opponents when he played for Ajax. They walk through most of their games having enjoyed 70-75% possession of the ball. Doesn't make him good enough to play in the Premier league and he's been found wanting at a higher level.

 

Aye, Feyenoord and PSV would never get near the EPL with luminaries like ourselves, villa, bournemouth and the mackems barring the way.

 

Found wanting? No. Played out of position, played fleetingly, Pardewed - yes.

 

If he were playing in an EPL team that wasn't the epitome of embarrassment then people would be singing a different song.

 

Your average Eredivisie team (PSV and Ajax aside) would be League 1 standard. That's why they always go out of Europe early on. One of them even went out to a Scottish team last year (Aberdeen) and it's only ranked as Europes 9th strongest league these days. Believe me it's dross and being a good player there proves nothing, as we have found out.

 

Feyenoord, FC Twente and Alkmaar in League One?

 

Utter guff, as is all of your post, apart from correctly looking up the NL UEFA coefficient. How are PSV getting on in the Champions League, having lost three of their best players? They're not above the eliminated ManUre by any chance?

 

Oh, and which EPL side near the top of their game were put out of the UEFA Cup by AZ a decade ago? Bloody useless, those Dutch!