Ikon Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I don't like this "keeping them happy" Should play what's best for the team and club, if a professional can't understand that and be rotated then somethings wrong. It's not football at school for kids where everyone get minutes every game.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I don't like this "keeping them happy" Should play what's best for the team and club, if a professional can't understand that and be rotated then somethings wrong. Ba can piss off if he's going to get the hump because he's asked to play in a position that doesn't suit him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 The whole 4-3-3 can't be used against top teams or we will be raped is rather silly really. Aye, about as silly as suggesting 4-4-2 doesn't allow movement or running into space. http://www.hitmasty.com/data/media/41/1401.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I don't like this "keeping them happy" Should play what's best for the team and club, if a professional can't understand that and be rotated then somethings wrong. It's not football at school for kids where everyone get minutes every game.. I feel Pardew is restricting the team in an attempt to keep Ba happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 How can anyone say we were playing flat 4-4-2 today? I just want to see us play poorly in 4-3-3 and see the reactions from ATB/mole Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Man utd have rooney and van persie. What did they do today? instead of going 4-4-2 and playing both they dropped rooney and kept the system. Now agree with that or not but just because we have two quality strikers doesn't mean they have to play every game together. Rotation would be healthy especially with our small squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 4-3-3 can easily become 4-5-1. personally I'm pleased that we have a go at top teams by playing 2 Dembas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 4-3-3 can easily become 4-5-1. personally I'm pleased that we have a go at top teams by playing 2 Dembas Pleased that we play two players that don't click? Or show any kind of signs of working in a partnership.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 4-3-3 can easily become 4-5-1. personally I'm pleased that we have a go at top teams by playing 2 Dembas Pleased that we play two players that don't click? Or show any kind of signs of working in a partnership.. That we don't park the bus and instead try and be positive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 It's like last season never happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 It's like last season never happened. Indeed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 4-3-3 can easily become 4-5-1. personally I'm pleased that we have a go at top teams by playing 2 Dembas Pleased that we play two players that don't click? Or show any kind of signs of working in a partnership.. That we don't park the bus and instead try and be positive Just cause you go with only one striker doesn't mean "park the bus" or that it's negative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 This was our 3rd most difficult game of the season - and we done alright. No need for all the wet gussets at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Mag Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 This was our 3rd most difficult game of the season - and we done alright. No need for all the wet gussets at all :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 4-3-3 can easily become 4-5-1. personally I'm pleased that we have a go at top teams by playing 2 Dembas Pleased that we play two players that don't click? Or show any kind of signs of working in a partnership.. That we don't park the bus and instead try and be positive Just cause you go with only one striker doesn't mean "park the bus" or that it's negative. Maybe not - but i was saying I'm glad we don't and are not. I think we should pick our formaation a/c to the oppostion (like last year). It worked then, it didn't today. Chelsea were really good first half - we played okay but got beat by a team wwho have just spent 80m quid. I'm disappointed sure but no need for the relentless negativity from some Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 This was our 3rd most difficult game of the season - and we done alright. No need for all the wet gussets at all Me personally, i think there is some positives from this game, but playing the Dembas in a 4-4-2 together isn't one one of them. I don't base this on the game we just played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I've said this a few times but if Pardew is letting Ba dictate where he does or doesn't play then it's really worrying. I can't imagine it though, Pardew seems quite strict and authoritarian (his treatment of HBA last season for example). I can't imagine Pardew would risk the hard work he's put in so far just to keep one player happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 He played him left in the second half last week. Pards is boss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 4-3-3 can easily become 4-5-1. personally I'm pleased that we have a go at top teams by playing 2 Dembas Playing 2 strikers doesn't really mean "having a go" though, in the first half i wouldn't really call how we were playing "having a go" We did in the 2nd half sure, but the first half we looked like we came for a 0-0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 4-3-3 can easily become 4-5-1. personally I'm pleased that we have a go at top teams by playing 2 Dembas im not completely adversed to 4-4-2, but playing two strikers up top does not automatically equate to 'have a go' at the opposition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 4-3-3 can easily become 4-5-1. personally I'm pleased that we have a go at top teams by playing 2 Dembas Playing 2 strikers doesn't really mean "having a go" though, in the first half i wouldn't really call how we were playing "having a go" We did in the 2nd half sure, but the first half we looked like we came for a 0-0 PArds said we were brave. I think in formation and personnel we were. First half we didn't play for 0-0 we just got outplayed by a good team and didn't start too well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Ben Arfa's starting position in a 4-4-2 doesn't enable him to use his end product often enough as he imo has to start his mazy runs from too deep and unfortunately it's a bit too much to ask, even from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJM Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 We might as well have played Raylror first half and brought HBA off the Bench. Fact is, HBA is totally wasted in the role he was asked to play in the first half today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I think it's ridiculous to suggest that we play 4-4-2 just because of Ba. Pardew has been brilliant enough that we shouldn't be criticizing him after we lost 2-0 to a pretty much guaranteed top 3 team. And it's not like 4-4-2 has always been awful for us. I trust Pardew 100% what ever formation he decides to go with. This season has lasted a week now, calm down everybody. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Ben Arfa's starting position in a 4-4-2 doesn't enable him to use his end product often enough as he imo has to start his mazy runs from too deep and unfortunately it's a bit too much to ask, even from him. I'd add to that Cabaye today was looking to pass over 3-4 opposition players heads and land the ball on a 5p piece in order to get us in on goal. If we work the ball to him further up the pitch it's a pass between two defenders on the deck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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