ujpest doza Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Last season when we went on an 11 game unbeaten start to the season and then in the spring won 7 games on the spin we had in both spells a very settled side. We played virtually the same side every single week in both of those spells with minimal changes. This season i know we have had injuries and suspensions,but we also have changes from game to game which were unforced and also have changed almost the entire team for Europa and COC games which means we've never had a settled side and haven't therefore managed to settle into any sort of rytham whatsoever. We need to be playing the same team in europe as we do in the PL to keep continuity and get ourselves into the a rythm. Rubbish to say players will get too tired, if they win in europe and then repeat that in the league they'll all still want to play as players in winning teams don't get tired, will play through the pain barrier so as not to lose their place. Chopping and changing a losing side is easy and players are more likely tohide and cry off with any little niggle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Resting the likes of Ben Arfa every Europa League game has done nothing for our Premier League performances. We should play most of the first choice team on Thursday. They could do with a win to get their confidence going. There's no reason why some of our players can't play two games in a week. Other sides better than ours have players who play twice a week. Are Ben Arfa, Ba, Cisse, Jonas, etc not fit enough to play twice a week? If they aren't they should be! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Resting the likes of Ben Arfa every Europa League game has done nothing for our Premier League performances. We should play most of the first choice team on Thursday. They could do with a win to get their confidence going. There's no reason why some of our players can't play two games in a week. Other sides better than ours have players who play twice a week. Are Ben Arfa, Ba, Cisse, Jonas, etc not fit enough to play twice a week? If they aren't they should be! Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Rotation has simply not worked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Rotation has simply not worked. It has been very disruptive and good performances in europe haven't got fringe players into the PL team which is disheartening for them as they may think why bother if i'm going to be dropped again at the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 This, like the lack of investment excuse is another red herring. No amount of continuity can explain poorly set up sides and bad football philosophy. I said it before and I'll say it again: The run of games at the end of last season where we actually looked a good side was when Pardew stumbled on a decent formation in having to accommodate Cisse. There's nothing he's done since then to suggest it was otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Successful teams tend to stick to a pattern of play regardless of which players they have available. They adopt a clear style of play and stick to it so players can come in and out of the first team without having to reinvent the wheel. They use different personnel in cup competitions but play the same way. Despite what he says I don't see any evidence Pardew has worked out how he wants NUFC to play and I'm far from convinced continuity has much to do with injuries and suspensions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Successful teams tend to stick to a pattern of play regardless of which players they have available. They adopt a clear style of play and stick to it so players can come in and out of the first team without having to reinvent the wheel. They use different personnel in cup competitions but play the same way. Despite what he says I don't see any evidence Pardew has worked out how he wants NUFC to play and I'm far from convinced continuity has much to do with injuries and suspensions. Spot on. Considering how badly we're playing though, I don't think some continuity would go amiss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Good post by malandro. Worried our young'uns will be exposed to his philosophy with his eight year deal and all that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 It's always been super cautious from Pardew. It's all well and good protecting players from injury but the fuckers are getting injured or sent off anyway. Effectively, 7 or 8 of the players are training Monday - Wednesday knowing they aren't playing on the Thursday, and then after the European game there's a couple of days training in preparation for Sunday. Just one of the many factors contributing to our shitness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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