Loïc Remy

[Dokko]

  On 15/08/2013 at 12:58, GeordieDazzler said:

So he could be in jail before he is match fit?

 

Shit! Offer Carlton Cole £100kpw plus £2m bonus, it doesn't matter were getting more money at the end of the season.

[Guest bimpy474]

  On 15/08/2013 at 12:59, Hanskissedhispantz said:

He'll not be locked up immediately after he is charged, he'll be set a court date which will then be adjourned, possibly multiple times and then given a trial date, the whole thing won't be sorted out until many months from now.

 

Beat ya 

[ujpest doza]

  On 15/08/2013 at 12:20, Ian W said:

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Liverpool do bring in more money but not to the proportions they spend more than us, not even close.

 

They beat us 6-0 on our own patch with Downing and Henderson in the team, the latter scoring twice. Yet certain people on here think they're the mugs and we're the dead clever ones. Absolutely embarrassing.

 

Downing and Henderson playing is kind of irrelevant... does that make them good signings?

 

FWIW I don't believe what you've ascribed to me there, if you meant me. If Liverpool think they can afford to risk £30m flops then that's fair enough, I'll laugh at the individual signings but they're entitled to whatever strategy they can support.

I think they're good players like.

[Hanshithispantz]

  On 15/08/2013 at 13:00, Toon's Taylor said:

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So he could be in jail before he is match fit?

 

Shit! Offer Carlton Cole £100kpw plus £2m bonus, it doesn't matter were getting more money at the end of the season.

worst post ever.

[Guest chopey]

Have we even spent all the Carrol money yet, we will be the only team in the premier league going into their first fixture with a weaker squad than what finished last season. Pardew needs to man up and admit it instead of making excuses for not "getting them over the line"

[Dokko]

  On 15/08/2013 at 13:00, Ian W said:

I think this is our rough profit from what I can find online:

 

2009 - £38m loss

2010 - £34m loss

2011 - £4m profit

2012 - £10m profit

 

Cool we've got -£58m to spend. 

[Guest icemanblue]

  On 15/08/2013 at 13:01, chopey said:

Have we even spent all the Carrol money yet, we will be the only team in the premier league going into their first fixture with a weaker squad than what finished last season. Pardew needs to man up and admit it instead of making excuses for not "getting them over the line"

 

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/11/23/article-2065089-0EE7050100000578-630_468x427.jpg

[Guest bimpy474]

  On 15/08/2013 at 13:01, Hanskissedhispantz said:

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So he could be in jail before he is match fit?

 

Shit! Offer Carlton Cole £100kpw plus £2m bonus, it doesn't matter were getting more money at the end of the season.

worst post ever.

 

Yes, i imagined TT's post in the style of a sulking Bonnie Langford in Just William.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

  On 15/08/2013 at 13:02, Toon's Taylor said:

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I think this is our rough profit from what I can find online:

 

2009 - £38m loss

2010 - £34m loss

2011 - £4m profit

2012 - £10m profit

 

Cool we've got -£58m to spend. 

 

I mean, I know we are due some money, but we also have a lot of ongoing debt. Yes, it's to Mike Ashley now but that's only because he cleared our unsustainable debt position when he arrived. We could not go on losing £30m a season with the credit situation tightening, I don't know how anyone can argue otherwise.

 

The only clubs that can are the ones where the owner has the ability and desire to shoulder infinite debt.

 

(Obviously this is where the 'it's his own fault for buying us' argument fits in)

[Guest bimpy474]

  On 15/08/2013 at 13:02, Inochi said:

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Have we even spent all the Carrol money yet, we will be the only team in the premier league going into their first fixture with a weaker squad than what finished last season. Pardew needs to man up and admit it instead of making excuses for not "getting them over the line"

 

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/11/23/article-2065089-0EE7050100000578-630_468x427.jpg

 

Tbf they finished 4th and have finished in the top 4 for the last 17 years, while we nearly got relegated so not really a close comparison. Points valid though.

[Wullie]

If you buy a £50m player, your accounts will show exactly the same profit because they go onto the accounts as an asset, so I don't know why the fuck you're posting profits for or what that's meant to prove.

[Wullie]

  On 15/08/2013 at 13:03, Ian W said:

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I think this is our rough profit from what I can find online:

 

2009 - £38m loss

2010 - £34m loss

2011 - £4m profit

2012 - £10m profit

 

Cool we've got -£58m to spend. 

 

I mean, I know we are due some money, but we also have a lot of ongoing debt. Yes, it's to Mike Ashley now but that's only because he cleared our unsustainable debt position when he arrived. We could not go on losing £30m a season with the credit situation tightening, I don't know how anyone can argue otherwise.

 

The only clubs that can are the ones where the owner has the ability and desire to shoulder infinite debt.

 

(Obviously this is where the 'it's his own fault for buying us' argument fits in)

 

So you're fine with him taking £10m or whatever back out of the club this season instead of buying a quality wide player with it?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

  On 15/08/2013 at 13:07, Wullie said:

If you buy a £50m player, your accounts will show exactly the same profit because they go onto the accounts as an asset, so I don't know why the fuck you're posting profits for or what that's meant to prove.

 

I don't think it's as simple as that. Otherwise things like the Carroll money wouldn't affect the P&L account, because we would receive £35m cash but lose a £35m asset.

[Hughesy]

I thought he took some money out of the club to pay the 'extra' loan he made us when we went down?

[Wullie]

Err we didn't lose any asset when we lost Carroll. We got him for free. Fairly simple stuff this like.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

  On 15/08/2013 at 13:08, Wullie said:

So you're fine with him taking £10m or whatever back out of the club this season instead of buying a quality wide player with it?

 

I'd rather he bought a player, but I don't expect him to shoulder that debt interest free for ever. Reasonable debt repayments are part of any business model. I mean, if we didn't owe the money to Ashley we would presumably owe it to a bank at a much more expensive rate.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

  On 15/08/2013 at 13:10, Wullie said:

Err we didn't lose any asset when we lost Carroll. We got him for free. Fairly simple stuff this like.

 

So the balance sheet value of a footballer is just what we paid for them? That doesn't seem to really make sense. Could be wrong obviously, I'm not an expert by any means!

[Dokko]

  On 15/08/2013 at 13:10, Wullie said:

Err we didn't lose any asset when we lost Carroll. We got him for free. Fairly simple stuff this like.

 

What? Players are either assets or they aren't, fuck sake.

[Beren]

Wenger's the man. Has his crown jewels asset-stripped on a bi-annual basis, doesn't get/to spend jack, and still leapfrogs Spurs in April and into the CL every year

[Dokko]

  On 15/08/2013 at 13:10, Ian W said:

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So you're fine with him taking £10m or whatever back out of the club this season instead of buying a quality wide player with it?

 

I'd rather he bought a player, but I don't expect him to shoulder that debt interest free for ever. Reasonable debt repayments are part of any business model. I mean, if we didn't owe the money to Ashley we would presumably owe it to a bank at a much more expensive rate.

 

Wullie wants us to spend next seasons money now, of course we just pluck that money out of the air until then, no interest or owt. Maybe if we pose as a Muslim club we'd get away with it.

[Wullie]

They're assets based on what you paid over the length of the contract. A ten million pound player on a five year deal is on the books as £10m asset when you buy him, £8m a year later and so on. After the contract period, or if the player was free, he is not treated as an asset at all for the purposes of the accounts.

[Mole_Toonfan]

  On 15/08/2013 at 11:57, Haris Vuckic said:

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So we haven't got a single new recruit for the new season. Good work Newcastle

 

Remy?

 

Who's injured for a month of it?

 

My point is we have the same team that finished 16th for Monday

 

Not being funny we could buy 10 quality players and still lose on Monday.

 

Season starts at home to West Ham.

[Guest bimpy474]

  On 15/08/2013 at 13:08, Wullie said:

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I think this is our rough profit from what I can find online:

 

2009 - £38m loss

2010 - £34m loss

2011 - £4m profit

2012 - £10m profit

 

Cool we've got -£58m to spend. 

 

I mean, I know we are due some money, but we also have a lot of ongoing debt. Yes, it's to Mike Ashley now but that's only because he cleared our unsustainable debt position when he arrived. We could not go on losing £30m a season with the credit situation tightening, I don't know how anyone can argue otherwise.

 

The only clubs that can are the ones where the owner has the ability and desire to shoulder infinite debt.

 

(Obviously this is where the 'it's his own fault for buying us' argument fits in)

 

So you're fine with him taking £10m or whatever back out of the club this season instead of buying a quality wide player with it?

 

If he wants to make a go of owning us then i'd expect him to spend the money, but if he's not going to, let him take the money to pay the debt, if it means he's fucking off asap.

[Wullie]

  On 15/08/2013 at 13:13, Toon's Taylor said:

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So you're fine with him taking £10m or whatever back out of the club this season instead of buying a quality wide player with it?

 

I'd rather he bought a player, but I don't expect him to shoulder that debt interest free for ever. Reasonable debt repayments are part of any business model. I mean, if we didn't owe the money to Ashley we would presumably owe it to a bank at a much more expensive rate.

 

Wullie wants us to spend next seasons money now, of course we just pluck that money out of the air until then, no interest or owt. Maybe if we pose as a Muslim club we'd get away with it.

 

Did we not get any last year like?  Where on Earth have you got this idea from that the club is skint?

[Decky]

  On 15/08/2013 at 13:13, Toon's Taylor said:

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So you're fine with him taking £10m or whatever back out of the club this season instead of buying a quality wide player with it?

 

I'd rather he bought a player, but I don't expect him to shoulder that debt interest free for ever. Reasonable debt repayments are part of any business model. I mean, if we didn't owe the money to Ashley we would presumably owe it to a bank at a much more expensive rate.

 

Wullie wants us to spend next seasons money now, of course we just pluck that money out of the air until then, no interest or owt. Maybe if we pose as a Muslim club we'd get away with it.

 

What about this seasons money? People say we chipped into it in January, but what about last season's money? We spent something like what, £14m net last season? That's not a lot, but people seem to think it's the equivalent of two seasons worth of transfer money.