Unbelievable Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Yanga-Mbiwa ~£7m Debuchy ~£5m Sissoko ~£2m Gouffran ~£2m Haidara ~£1m Something like that. It was f***ing nowhere near £30m+, though. Minus 7m recouped from the Ba sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Not that far off I would imagine. ~£17m in transfer fees + sign on and agents fee for 5 players. The Ba sale wasn't really that profitable though was it? The fee Chelsea had to pay wasn't the same amount as the club received in hard cash, or am I dreaming stuff up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Yeah, that's the thing... since we sold Andy Carroll for £35m and everyone hoped they'd reinvest that in the squad on transfer fees, they started claiming that money would need to cover all transfer costs included agents fees, wages, etc not just the actual fee for the player between clubs, almost to try and reduce the expectation of (many) signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Yeah, that's the thing... since we sold Andy Carroll for £35m and everyone hoped they'd reinvest that in the squad on transfer fees, they started claiming that money would need to cover all transfer costs included agents fees, wages, etc not just the actual fee for the player between clubs, almost to try and reduce the expectation of (many) signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Yeah, that figure will be factoring in wages over 4 or 5 years, assuming the player stays that long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 That does not equate to a net transfer spend though, as that Lambass quote suggests, unless they pay all wages up front for the entire contract period (which they won't). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 We did pay a substantial amount in agent fees according to that report not long back, not that that will bridge the gap between £10m and £33m mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I think it was 7 million for the year (2012) if memory serves? As you say, the amount is unlikely to be anywhere near the 20 million it would have to be for that Lambass quote to be correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brazilianbob Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 If you factor in that 5 players bought in Jan 2013 each earn £20,000 per week and they are all on four year contracts, that equates to around £21m, so add on transfer/agents fees of £10m and hey presto we have a figure of around £31m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosstef Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I find it hilarious that we factor I their wages until the end of their contract Especially when it's the club's policy to sell players with a profit before their contracts run out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 They have to come up with something to justify the lack of investment.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Every club will do it to plan ahead to make sure the money is there, but not every club will use it as an excuse for not strengthening the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Every club will do it to plan ahead to make sure the money is there, but not every club will use it as an excuse for not strengthening the squad. I'd like to think they were budgeted for separately like Must be paying the tea lady a shitload if the player wages are included in the transfer fees, our salary bill is quite large. Maybe Mike is on facebook and bought into the soldiers/mums/dinner ladies/anyone except footballers should get footballers wages bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Repost: @SSNRadio: Listen again as Damien Comolli admits interest in #NUFC Director of Football role http://t.co/lZoKOBHA0Q http://t.co/YogGNn4ryT s*** lord no?? This bloke just spunks millions on rubbish. :lol: Did sign Berbatov, Bale, Carrick and Modric no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I think just everything is included in the bottom line TBH, find it hard to argue with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Isn't it just the first year of the contract we throw in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I think just everything is included in the bottom line TBH, find it hard to argue with that. Seriously? Is there any other club that budgets like this, including future costs in their current net transfer spend? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Isn't it just the first year of the contract we throw in? Not too sure to be honest. It's obviously not working though, if we can't afford to sign players in the transfer windows. Needs looking at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I think just everything is included in the bottom line TBH, find it hard to argue with that. Seriously? Is there any other club that budgets like this, including future costs in their current net transfer spend? I think we're the only club that announces deals in this fashion in order to deceive the fans and get away with spending as little as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I think just everything is included in the bottom line TBH, find it hard to argue with that. Seriously? Is there any other club that budgets like this, including future costs in their current net transfer spend? Ah soz, might have missed the gist of the argument. I just meant that I don't see any problem with taking all income/outgoings together, rather than treating transfer income as special. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 We should sell Tiote then. His new 5 year contract was paid out of the Carroll money apparently so get rid of him now and we'll get an extra £10m or so on top of the actual transfer fee that we can spend on new players. What? Oh, it only works that way when we're spending money apparently, never mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 We should sell Tiote then. His new 5 year contract was paid out of the Carroll money apparently so get rid of him now and we'll get an extra £10m or so on top of the actual transfer fee that we can spend on new players. What? Oh, it only works that way when we're spending money apparently, never mind. Crazy isn't it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I think just everything is included in the bottom line TBH, find it hard to argue with that. I would find it hard to argue if they also factored in money brought in/saved in the same fashion ie £7m for Ba/£3m ish wages saved off their figure when they did it. At the end of the day it makes zero difference to anything other than to misslead fans. Any actual budgets used would be correctly factored over monthly/annual expenditure after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I think just everything is included in the bottom line TBH, find it hard to argue with that. I would find it hard to argue if they also factored in money brought in/saved in the same fashion ie £7m for Ba/£3m ish wages saved off their figure when they did it. At the end of the day it makes zero difference to anything other than to misslead fans. Any actual budgets used would be correctly factored over monthly/annual expenditure after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Cabaye, Jonas, Perch, Simpson, Harper, Ba, Smith, Xisco, Best and Guthrie all off the wage bill in recent years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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