Guest Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Is it though? For a club of their standing they've been nowhere near the title for 8 years or so. They've recently been scraping into 4th spot which should be their absolute minimum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Arsenal's transfer policy has turned them from league contenders (winners, unbeaten 48 or whatever it was, CL final, multiple cup winners) to scraping in to the CL with 4th spot on final day. That's a fact. We've actually grown a couple of times in our spell as well as falling flat, it's been downhill all the way for arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Here's me calling Downing "average"... Too English. Not cool enough. They are all massively average bar maybe Carroll Separately, yes. Together they'll do a good job. I've got all day. Those quotes are from 5 days after you claimed he was a top, top player So he went from "average but possibly rather handy" to "a top, top player" to "average but possibly rather handy" within a few days? Please just admit you were wrong. Where is you're pre "top, top player" quote saying he's just average like?, you didn't post that. Go and find it for me, you've got all day. Maybe eventually you'll get my point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=318562&sid=e646d513f93ab76c7dcaa05cae8c9d4e&start=630 Familiar opinions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Here's me calling Downing "average"... Too English. Not cool enough. They are all massively average bar maybe Carroll Separately, yes. Together they'll do a good job. I've got all day. Those quotes are from 5 days after you claimed he was a top, top player So he went from "average but possibly rather handy" to "a top, top player" to "average but possibly rather handy" within a few days? Please just admit you were wrong. Where is you're pre "top, top player" quote saying he's just average like?, you didn't post that. Go and find it for me, you've got all day. Maybe eventually you'll get my point The one I posted before. I'd rather pay the extra and get Ince but he could be rather handy. I'd rather we signed a completely unproven player I've never watched for more money. You're not very good at this so please just go away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Doesn't say a word about anyone being average, just that you'd prefer Ince. Again you might get the point I'm trying to make in the end and stop running round in circles trying to prove you don't think Downing's a top, top player. The hint here is in my following post after you said you were joking, take your time you've got all day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Is it though? For a club of their standing they've been nowhere near the title for 8 years or so. They've recently been scraping into 4th spot which should be their absolute minimum. Everything points to it being down to Wenger in regards to how much they spend so maybe he's happy doing what he's always done for the most part Being in the CL for 15 years in a row is bloody good considering how much money other teams throw around every year though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Doesn't say a word about anyone being average, just that you'd prefer Ince. Again you might get the point I'm trying to make in the end and stop running round in circles trying to prove you don't think Downing's a top, top player. The hint here is in my following post after you said you were joking, take your time you've got all day Aye, I've made my point several times. I'll admit you were wrong for you just to end this embarrassment of a whatever this is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Is it though? For a club of their standing they've been nowhere near the title for 8 years or so. They've recently been scraping into 4th spot which should be their absolute minimum. Everything points to it being down to Wenger in regards to how much they spend so maybe he's happy doing what he's always done for the most part Being in the CL for 15 years in a row is bloody good considering how much money other teams throw around every year though. You saying Wenger has the funds available whenever he wants it but just chooses not to challenge for title and loves a scrap for 4th place, trolling Spurs fans in the process with late surges of form? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 We can point at Arsenal until the high heavens as a vindication for our lack of ambition/spending, but then again we will not be competing with them. The clubs we ARE supposed to be have all strenghtened significantly, which is far more worrying.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Doesn't say a word about anyone being average, just that you'd prefer Ince. Again you might get the point I'm trying to make in the end and stop running round in circles trying to prove you don't think Downing's a top, top player. The hint here is in my following post after you said you were joking, take your time you've got all day Aye, I've made my point several times. I'll admit you were wrong for you just to end this embarrassment of a whatever this is. Still think my point is about you thinking Downing's a top, top player, fucking hell man But ok I'll admit you were wrong as well, agree to disagree ect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Is it though? For a club of their standing they've been nowhere near the title for 8 years or so. They've recently been scraping into 4th spot which should be their absolute minimum. Everything points to it being down to Wenger in regards to how much they spend so maybe he's happy doing what he's always done for the most part Being in the CL for 15 years in a row is bloody good considering how much money other teams throw around every year though. You saying Wenger has the funds available whenever he wants it but just chooses not to challenge for title and loves a scrap for 4th place, trolling Spurs fans in the process with late surges of form? He says so himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Is it though? For a club of their standing they've been nowhere near the title for 8 years or so. They've recently been scraping into 4th spot which should be their absolute minimum. Everything points to it being down to Wenger in regards to how much they spend so maybe he's happy doing what he's always done for the most part Being in the CL for 15 years in a row is bloody good considering how much money other teams throw around every year though. You saying Wenger has the funds available whenever he wants it but just chooses not to challenge for title and loves a scrap for 4th place, trolling Spurs fans in the process with late surges of form? He says so himself. Aye because he doesn't want to criticise his board. Bet he was reeling inside that the club couldn't tie RVP down and have yet to replace him with sufficient enough class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 "Stewart is a quality player, value for money; somebody who sits at the top of our performance stats as well as a nice guy." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Too English. Not cool enough. They are all massively average bar maybe Carroll Separately, yes. Together they'll do a good job. To 12th or 13th yeah.... They were a few points off 8th last year with some bad injuries. They'll basically be nowhere near relegation which is something I'm envious of. They were 5 points ahead of us and I'm fairly comfortable assuming our injuries were worse. Who do you think will finish higher this year? Us. As Mole has said, there is a lot of romanticism of these players. I wouldn't be remotely excited of us signing Nolan, Carroll or Barton and even less excited about Allardyce managing us. Less romanticism than our current squad of players imo. Pardew is copping the blame for some of the worst individual performances I've ever seen in our shirt. Yet this group of awful players have got us to a league position Barton, Nolan or Carroll have never achieved and probably won't. http://i.imgur.com/gWOfiXl.png Hardly compares to what we have now. Even worse when you consider we want a few of the remaining players nowhere near the team. So what is it you want, for us to go back and sign Nolan? All I've said is I think a few West Ham players will do a good job I based that on the fact that they're buying players to make a team instead of just buying ( ) French players who become available. You're bang on with your last few posts. People forget quickly that the basis of our success involved Simpson, Saylor/Willo, Colo, Raylor, Jonas.. Obertan played a ton too. Granted HBA, Ba and Cisse played a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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