AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I text my mate (Liverpool Fan) laughing about the loss they've made on Downing/Carroll/Cole and how they are lucky that West Ham have taken them off the wage bill....his reply was 'We are a big club, money isn't an issue'. Is money an issue in football? Do we do things the right way or the wrong way? Suppose when we are looking at others around us like West Ham coughing up silly money will nilly, just like Arsenal fans will be questioning their transfer policy when they see clubs like Spurs/Liverpool forking out the money let alone the likes of Chelsea/City. Personally I actually prefer the way us and Arsenal go about things, it seems like the right and logical way to run a football but it can be very frustrating for us supporters. Anyway you look at it, signing those players for massive fees, having them flop, and selling them for massive losses is idiotic. Obviously speculating would involve signing some big ticket players, some of which would inevitably fail. Basically that's what we used to do under the previous regime. If you look at Liverpool's revenue compared to ours (and indeed most other clubs) it doesn't matter. A big gripe of mine is that the money Liverpool have wasted in recent years should have seen them in real trouble. Instead they don't really have any consequence to this mismanagement. A few years ago they were looking like being in trouble and then new owners come in and all their money problems got solved. This is despite not having any real relevant success. We do parts of business the right way, but we are suffering due to a lack of ambition that starts at the owner and runs down to the manager. Football is a poorer sport by virtue of its failure to provide financial equality. Yep, spot on, everything basically depends on the willingness of the owner to spend their personal wealth. It's basically rendered normal competition obsolete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Definitely, at least we've spent something this window Arsenal have brought nobody in (a youth player for free doesn't really count) and have sold/released something like 20 players and brought in £10m in fee's. Arsenal didn't nearly just get relegated. Finished 4th in fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Definitely, at least we've spent something this window Arsenal have brought nobody in (a youth player for free doesn't really count) and have sold/released something like 20 players and brought in £10m in fee's. Arsenal didn't nearly just get relegated. Finished 4th in fact. We know what happens if you fail to strengthen after a good finish though, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Definitely, at least we've spent something this window Arsenal have brought nobody in (a youth player for free doesn't really count) and have sold/released something like 20 players and brought in £10m in fee's. Arsenal didn't nearly just get relegated. Finished 4th in fact. You didn't think just maybe that was tongue in cheek? Having said that Arsenal certainly have even less excuse than us for spending fuck all and not improving the squad with the money they have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Definitely, at least we've spent something this window Arsenal have brought nobody in (a youth player for free doesn't really count) and have sold/released something like 20 players and brought in £10m in fee's. Arsenal didn't nearly just get relegated. Finished 4th in fact. We know what happens if you fail to strengthen after a good finish though, right? Arsenal are consistently in the top 4 so whatever they do works. None of us would be surprised if they went and spent £30-40 million in the next few weeks either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Definitely, at least we've spent something this window Arsenal have brought nobody in (a youth player for free doesn't really count) and have sold/released something like 20 players and brought in £10m in fee's. Arsenal didn't nearly just get relegated. Finished 4th in fact. You didn't think just maybe that was tongue in cheek? No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Not very intuitive then are you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 How is ignoring problem positions for years on end because they can't get anything out of the bargain bin the "right and logical way to run a football club"? Can't believe what I'm reading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Not very intuitive then are you I can spot when someone is backtracking. "tongue in cheek" or "drunk" is the give away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 A pictorial representation of our transfer policy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 The mushrooms are Obertan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Arsenal have bid £40m for Suarez like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Think people are saying being careful with your money is the right and logical way of running a club, instead of throwing cash around. Neither way means you'll automatically get the right players for the positions you need to fill, that comes down to the people making the decisions and which positions we need to fill. Freddy spent loads but we still went years with problem positions that he'd ignore year after year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Arsenal have bid £40m for Suarez like. Just a smoke screen mate, wasting their time on a player they can't get to make the fans happy, just like us with Gomis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Arsenal have bid £40m for Suarez like. And we've bid £15m on PEA like. They seem equally shite at getting players 'over the line'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Not very intuitive then are you I can spot when someone is backtracking. "tongue in cheek" or "drunk" is the give away. Nah mate unlike you I don't try to pretend I didn't really mean something after I realise how fucking stupid it was "Downing's a top, top player like" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Not very intuitive then are you I can spot when someone is backtracking. "tongue in cheek" or "drunk" is the give away. Nah mate unlike you I don't try to pretend I didn't really mean something after I realise how fucking stupid it was "Downing's a top, top player like" I'd rather pay the extra and get Ince but he could be rather handy. Aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Not very intuitive then are you I can spot when someone is backtracking. "tongue in cheek" or "drunk" is the give away. Nah mate unlike you I don't try to pretend I didn't really mean something after I realise how fucking stupid it was "Downing's a top, top player like" I'd rather pay the extra and get Ince but he could be rather handy. Aye. And?, so Ince is even more of a top player Its easy to be a difficult cunt like.. My post was so obviously tongue in cheek you're just embarrassed you didn't catch it man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Arsenal have bid £40m for Suarez like. And we've bid £15m on PEA like. They seem equally shite at getting players 'over the line'. Righto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Not very intuitive then are you I can spot when someone is backtracking. "tongue in cheek" or "drunk" is the give away. Nah mate unlike you I don't try to pretend I didn't really mean something after I realise how fucking stupid it was "Downing's a top, top player like" I'd rather pay the extra and get Ince but he could be rather handy. Aye. And?, so Ince is even more of a top player. Here's me calling Downing "average"... Too English. Not cool enough. They are all massively average bar maybe Carroll Separately, yes. Together they'll do a good job. I've got all day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Definitely, at least we've spent something this window Arsenal have brought nobody in (a youth player for free doesn't really count) and have sold/released something like 20 players and brought in £10m in fee's. Arsenal didn't nearly just get relegated. Finished 4th in fact. We know what happens if you fail to strengthen after a good finish though, right? Arsenal are consistently in the top 4 so whatever they do works. None of us would be surprised if they went and spent £30-40 million in the next few weeks either. It's all relative though. Arsenal sell players for £15m right up to £25m, and very rarely spend that themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Here's me calling Downing "average"... Too English. Not cool enough. They are all massively average bar maybe Carroll Separately, yes. Together they'll do a good job. I've got all day. Those quotes are from 5 days after you claimed he was a top, top player I suppose I could probably hunt around for a quote of me saying that us and Arsenal aren't comparable. But its more fun to make you to look around to try to prove you didn't think Stewart Downing was a top, top player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 It's easy for us to say well Arsenal are top 4, everything is fine, we however are shit. However look at it from an Arsenal's fans point of view and they see the whole situation just like ours. A manager who is happy to say what the board want him to say and isn't really bothered if his best players are constantly sold and the money not re-invested to the penny made. I can certainly see why they are fed up of Arsenal just battling Spurs for 4th place when if they went out in a summer and spent big, they could challenge for the title if a couple of positions were upgraded. Instead they are just content on finishing 4th and letting the champions league money roll into there bank account and hope Wenger produces a player to be world class to be sold at a nice profit. They have got a nice stadium though as the owners keep referring too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Definitely, at least we've spent something this window Arsenal have brought nobody in (a youth player for free doesn't really count) and have sold/released something like 20 players and brought in £10m in fee's. Arsenal didn't nearly just get relegated. Finished 4th in fact. We know what happens if you fail to strengthen after a good finish though, right? Arsenal are consistently in the top 4 so whatever they do works. None of us would be surprised if they went and spent £30-40 million in the next few weeks either. It's all relative though. Arsenal sell players for £15m right up to £25m, and very rarely spend that themselves. I think Wenger is both too old school and too good to be throwing £30 million around every window. One of his biggest strengths is buying players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Here's me calling Downing "average"... Too English. Not cool enough. They are all massively average bar maybe Carroll Separately, yes. Together they'll do a good job. I've got all day. Those quotes are from 5 days after you claimed he was a top, top player So he went from "average but possibly rather handy" to "a top, top player" to "average but possibly rather handy" within a few days? Please just admit you were wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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