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3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Ferdinand was to balance the books - Keegan was meant to bring in millions to offset the Shearer purchase.  Spurs offered an insane amount for a player his age.  Shearer then gets injured, we try to cancel the transfer but Ferdinand is upset that we agreed the sale and heads off.
 

I think Ginola fell out with NUFC more than anything else after we blocked a move to Barcelona in 1996.  He also was completely off the boil after getting kicked out of the game vs Arsenal in the LC QF in early ‘96. 

 

Asprilla’s sale was simply a case of getting our money back for a player with a goal-to-games ratio akin to Ameobi.  All these years later and I’m still unpersuaded  that Asprilla was a good signing (yes, that night against a Barcelona side which finished bottom of our CL group was fun).  


Fair one. But please don’t ever compare Tino to Shola again. I was only 6-8 when we had him, so I don’t want my childhood memories pissed on. 

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10 minutes ago, Fak said:


Fair one. But please don’t ever compare Tino to Shola again. I was only 6-8 when we had him, so I don’t want my childhood memories pissed on. 

It’s a nonsense comparison tbf :lol:

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10 minutes ago, gdm said:

Saying Asprilla wasn’t a good signing is miles off like. He was great 

Asprilla was far from great, like.  He was bang average at best in the PL.  Don’t know where ‘great’ came from. 

 

10 minutes ago, gdm said:

It’s a nonsense comparison tbf :lol:

It was tongue-in-cheek :) 

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4 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Asprilla was far from great, like.  He was bang average at best in the PL.  Don’t know where ‘great’ came from. 

 

It was tongue-in-cheek :) 


he was hardly ‘bang average’ that is absolutely nonsense. He was never an out and out striker and he had to take on a lot of heavy lifting when Shearer got injured. Calling him bang average is just ridiculous. He was one of the few bright sparks in the awful Dalglish side.

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17 minutes ago, gdm said:


he was hardly ‘bang average’ that is absolutely nonsense. He was never an out and out striker and he had to take on a lot of heavy lifting when Shearer got injured. Calling him bang average is just ridiculous. He was one of the few bright sparks in the awful Dalglish side.

 

10 minutes ago, RS said:

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More bang than average

Yes, I too was present for his hat trick against Barcelona.  I was there for most of his other games for us, too - he was frustrating and ineffective most of the time.  I’m sure he looks great in clips on YouTube. 

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3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

 

Yes, I too was present for his hat trick against Barcelona.  I was there for most of his other games for us, too - he was frustrating and ineffective most of the time.  I’m sure he looks great in clips on YouTube. 

We’ll have to agree to disagree. To me Shola Ameobi or Jon Dahl Tommason (in that side, he went on to be pretty decent) are what you would describe as bang average. Putting Tino in that bracket is ridiculous. All his team mates from that time who have been on the podcast circuit describe him as being brilliant. 

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45 minutes ago, gdm said:

Saying Asprilla wasn’t a good signing is miles off like. He was great 

 

I think it could be argued that he wasn't a "good" signing in the sense that we would have been better strengthening elsewhere in the team.

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1 hour ago, Playmaker said:

 

 

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I was never one for long sleeves, but it is pretty ridiculous how much better this kit looks with the long sleeves. It minimises the bagginess.

 

The state of it on that Ian Rush photo :lol:

 

As mentioned before, it's not just looking back in hindsight that we can say it's too baggy. Even back then for the 90s it was too much.

 

 

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Just now, El Prontonise said:

Asprilla was not a good signing overall, 5-6 memorable games but plenty of poor games.

Mitigating circumstances he was up front with JDT, Ian Rush & Andreas Anderson. If he was a poor signing I dread to think what that lot were 

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7 minutes ago, gdm said:

Mitigating circumstances he was up front with JDT, Ian Rush & Andreas Anderson. If he was a poor signing I dread to think what that lot were 


Was he not also playing in Dalglish side that often consisted of Warren Barton on the wing? 

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3 minutes ago, El Prontonise said:

We aren't just talking about the 97/98 season, he was pretty ineffective after he joined us.  I'm also of the opinion like quite a few were at the time his signing destabilised the side as well in 95/96.

That’s hardly his fault 

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3 minutes ago, El Prontonise said:

We aren't just talking about the 97/98 season, he was pretty ineffective after he joined us.  I'm also of the opinion like quite a few were at the time his signing destabilised the side as well in 95/96.


How old were you at the time?

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I think it's a popular myth (and popular topic on here) that Tino was a poor signing in 95/96. We had a reputation for having a poor defence and insane attack in but when we signed Tino the goals were drying up and by the end of the season we had the second best defence in the league.

 

Having said that, if we had a What If machine it would be interesting to see what would have happened if our summer signings had been Flowers and Hendry instead of Hislop and Barton.

 

 

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3 hours ago, gdm said:

Mitigating circumstances he was up front with JDT, Ian Rush & Andreas Anderson. If he was a poor signing I dread to think what that lot were 

They were fucking dreadful signings :)

 

(Though Tomasson had talent, and I think he was mishandled.  Looked great pre-season.)

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1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said:

I think it's a popular myth (and popular topic on here) that Tino was a poor signing in 95/96. We had a reputation for having a poor defence and insane attack in but when we signed Tino the goals were drying up and by the end of the season we had the second best defence in the league.

 

Having said that, if we had a What If machine it would be interesting to see what would have happened if our summer signings had been Flowers and Hendry instead of Hislop and Barton.

 

 

 

I never agreed with the meeja narrative that Asprilla cost us.  He didn’t - the front line needed changing up for the reasons you’ve listed, and I completely agree re the goalkeeper.

 

He wasn’t to blame for losing the title - but he wasn’t the right signing.  

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3 hours ago, Fak said:


Was he not also playing in Dalglish side that often consisted of Warren Barton on the wing? 

Warren Barton never played on the wing - though I was at Anfield when he briefly played up front.  He scored :) 

 

Dalglish signed Speed and immediately put him on the left wing … let’s just say Speed wasn’t a popular player on Tyneside until Robson started playing him in the ‘right’ manner

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6 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Warren Barton never played on the wing - though I was at Anfield when he briefly played up front.  He scored :) 

 

Dalglish signed Speed and immediately put him on the left wing … let’s just say Speed wasn’t a popular player on Tyneside until Robson started playing him in the ‘right’ manner

 

https://www.nufc.com/html/1997-98html/1997-10-18leeds-a.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_FA_Cup_final

https://www.nufc.com/html/1997-98html/1997-08-27zagreb-a.html

 

I thought NUFC.com had more match reports available from 97-98 but the above would point him to be being on the wing?

 

 

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