xLiaaamx Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 That would involve re-registering Krul. We need 3 senior goalkeepers, can't have another Alnwick situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 That would involve re-registering Krul. We need 3 senior goalkeepers, can't have another Alnwick situation. Surely we could include a clause to recall him if one of our senior keepers gets injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 That would involve re-registering Krul. We need 3 senior goalkeepers, can't have another Alnwick situation. Surely we could include a clause to recall him if one of our senior keepers gets injured. Iirc long term loans are not allowed to have recall options. Monthly ones can I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 That would involve re-registering Krul. We need 3 senior goalkeepers, can't have another Alnwick situation. Surely we could include a clause to recall him if one of our senior keepers gets injured. Iirc long term loans are not allowed to have recall options. Monthly ones can I think. Ok, I'm just going to stop pretending I have a solution to this Bottom line is it seems like a huge mistake if he spends this season as our third choice keeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 That would involve re-registering Krul. We need 3 senior goalkeepers, can't have another Alnwick situation. Surely we could include a clause to recall him if one of our senior keepers gets injured. Iirc long term loans are not allowed to have recall options. Monthly ones can I think. Ok, I'm just going to stop pretending I have a solution to this Bottom line is it seems like a huge mistake if he spends this season as our third choice keeper. Rafa said recently that Freddie would have to wait until January to go out on loan if we didn't sign another GK. Does indeed mean him twiddling his thumbs though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 That would involve re-registering Krul. We need 3 senior goalkeepers, can't have another Alnwick situation. Surely we could include a clause to recall him if one of our senior keepers gets injured. Iirc long term loans are not allowed to have recall options. Monthly ones can I think. Didn't we recall Tom Heardman? Then sent him to Hartlepool...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 That would involve re-registering Krul. We need 3 senior goalkeepers, can't have another Alnwick situation. Surely we could include a clause to recall him if one of our senior keepers gets injured. Iirc long term loans are not allowed to have recall options. Monthly ones can I think. Didn't we recall Tom Heardman? Then sent him to Hartlepool...... Heardman was on a youth loan which is different, and the loan rules changed recently, i think (not 100% sure like). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 That would involve re-registering Krul. We need 3 senior goalkeepers, can't have another Alnwick situation. Surely we could include a clause to recall him if one of our senior keepers gets injured. Iirc long term loans are not allowed to have recall options. Monthly ones can I think. Didn't we recall Tom Heardman? Then sent him to Hartlepool...... Heardman was on a youth loan which is different, and the loan rules changed recently, i think (not 100% sure like). A youth loan? Learn something new every day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I'm not convinced Heardman was a youth loan considering he's 22 next month Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 That would involve re-registering Krul. We need 3 senior goalkeepers, can't have another Alnwick situation. Surely we could include a clause to recall him if one of our senior keepers gets injured. Iirc long term loans are not allowed to have recall options. Monthly ones can I think. Didn't we recall Tom Heardman? Then sent him to Hartlepool...... Heardman was on a youth loan which is different, and the loan rules changed recently, i think (not 100% sure like). A youth loan? Learn something new every day. I remember it being reported as that, at the time. I've no idea what the ins and outs of that are but they are different than a usual loan, again i'm not 100% on it, i just read about them at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I'm not convinced Heardman was a youth loan considering he's 22 next month Are we talking different times ? the Heardman loan to Hartlepool was a few seasons back wasn't it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I'm not convinced Heardman was a youth loan considering he's 22 next month Are we talking different times ? the Heardman loan to Hartlepool was a few seasons back wasn't it. Have we just got him back from bury to replace Gayle then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Maybe we haven't recalled him. What a waste of a page this is, sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 We've just recalled Heardman from his loan at Bury which I assume was why he was used as an example as us recalling someone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I'm not convinced Heardman was a youth loan considering he's 22 next month Are we talking different times ? the Heardman loan to Hartlepool was a few seasons back wasn't it. Have we just got him back from bury to replace Gayle then? I think we have crossed wires, if we've just recalled him from Bury, then that would have been a short term long which you can recall someone from, or Bury sent him back, i think. Heardman went on loan to Gateshead (not Hartlepool as i thought) on a youth loan, , i thought that's what we were on about, sorry my bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 We've just recalled Heardman from his loan at Bury which I assume was why he was used as an example as us recalling someone You can but you can't if it's a long term loan, we couldn't recall Armstrong last season for the same reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I'm not convinced Heardman was a youth loan considering he's 22 next month Are we talking different times ? the Heardman loan to Hartlepool was a few seasons back wasn't it. Have we just got him back from bury to replace Gayle then? I think we have crossed wires, if we've just recalled him from Bury, then that would have been a short term long which you can recall someone from, or Bury sent him back, i think. Heardman went on loan to Gateshead (not Hartlepool as i thought) on a youth loan, , i thought that's what we were on about, sorry my bad. Heardman went to bury on a season long loan. I thought we recalled him, but can't confirm or deny that now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 What the fuck is going on in here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I'm not convinced Heardman was a youth loan considering he's 22 next month Are we talking different times ? the Heardman loan to Hartlepool was a few seasons back wasn't it. Have we just got him back from bury to replace Gayle then? I think we have crossed wires, if we've just recalled him from Bury, then that would have been a short term long which you can recall someone from, or Bury sent him back, i think. Heardman went on loan to Gateshead (not Hartlepool as i thought) on a youth loan, , i thought that's what we were on about, sorry my bad. Heardman went to bury on a season long loan. I thought we recalled him, but can't confirm or deny that now. Going by what i just read on the club site, he wasn't on loan anywhere before he went Bury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 We could recall Heardman because the transfer window is still open. We could have recalled Armstrong last January if we wanted to. In fact I think we extended his loan to go back to Barnsley in January Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 What the fuck is going on in here? Dunno, think i've confused myself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I'm not convinced Heardman was a youth loan considering he's 22 next month Are we talking different times ? the Heardman loan to Hartlepool was a few seasons back wasn't it. Have we just got him back from bury to replace Gayle then? I think we have crossed wires, if we've just recalled him from Bury, then that would have been a short term long which you can recall someone from, or Bury sent him back, i think. Heardman went on loan to Gateshead (not Hartlepool as i thought) on a youth loan, , i thought that's what we were on about, sorry my bad. Heardman went to bury on a season long loan. I thought we recalled him, but can't confirm or deny that now. Going by what i just read on the club site, he wasn't on loan anywhere before he went Bury. No, he went to bury, but we recalled him (we probably haven't). However, you can recall a season long loan but only in a transfer window, or if both clubs agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I'm pretty sure we could recall Heardman because the transfer window is still open. We could have recalled Armstrong last January if we wanted to There's been some changes, you're not allowed to loan outside the transfer windows now. Iirc they put in non recall rules (not 100% how this all works), but i think the loans now go 6 months and season long. Not sure about the recalling Armstrong, but if it was in the window and he was initially on a six month loan that would have been possible as it was coming to an end, and we weren't going to renew it. (which we did in the end) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 You can recall players on season long loans if there's an option to but only when the transfer window is open (like Ake was by Chelsea last January). Armstrong's was a loan until January then extended to end of the season in January Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I'm not convinced Heardman was a youth loan considering he's 22 next month Are we talking different times ? the Heardman loan to Hartlepool was a few seasons back wasn't it. Have we just got him back from bury to replace Gayle then? I think we have crossed wires, if we've just recalled him from Bury, then that would have been a short term long which you can recall someone from, or Bury sent him back, i think. Heardman went on loan to Gateshead (not Hartlepool as i thought) on a youth loan, , i thought that's what we were on about, sorry my bad. Heardman went to bury on a season long loan. I thought we recalled him, but can't confirm or deny that now. Going by what i just read on the club site, he wasn't on loan anywhere before he went Bury. No, he went to bury, but we recalled him (we probably haven't). However, you can recall a season long loan but only in a transfer window, or if both clubs agree. That's the bit i couldn't remember Did Bury send Heardman back then, injured ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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