shakey jake Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Think we’ll beat one or two of either Chelsea, Man U or arsenal at home too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 The Swansea and Burnley games feel big. We need a minimum of 4 points from those games. 6 would be tremendous. I'd be happy with 3 tbh. Same, beating Burnley is a tough one. Swansea pretty much essential of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Watch us get 1 or 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 7 the risk is there, especially if Ashley is still strangling our finances. However, while the bad run did send drop into the bottom three for a while the wins we have picked up has put us back in fairly decent place. We are only a couple of more wins away from being seen as comfortable. It all depends on Ashley tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 If we can claim two big club scalps, we should be ok. Fancy us to pick up points off someone like Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I was just thinking earlier about how at this point in our last relegation season we only had 1 point less than we do this season, which made me feel a bit uneasy. However, I've just looked and from this point that season we only picked up another 3 points between now and 19th March, which is what did the real damage before Rafa took us from 24 points to 37 points in the space of 10 matches. I think this year is just about doable, but any poor runs, or good runs from other teams and we're screwed like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I think the fact that there are currently so many other teams in it still is a massive advantage over the previous relegation season. Arguably even Everton aren't safe yet (although highly unlikely to go down). Win against Swansea or Burnley and we are in a great position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I find it hard to compare to last time, we are so much more well managed and have much more committed players. The quality is probably worse, but quality players with no heart and organisation are absolutely useless. As always, Rafa is the key. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 We were unlucky last time given it was the second highest points total to be relegated. But we really fucked up by not beating the teams around us. Couple of draws late in the season (teams escape me/repressed) we needed to win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Drawing at home to Villa around Christmas time was a stinker and one we really should have won - even as the third worst team in the league, we should've won. The Norwich defeat once Rafa had arrived was also particularly sore, having twice fought back. Five points won against the bottom two teams that season. And only one against the team who finished 17th. Provides more evidence for how vital a win is on Saturday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Drawing at home to Villa around Christmas time was a stinker and one we really should have won - even as the third worst team in the league, we should've won. The Norwich defeat once Rafa had arrived was also particularly sore, having twice fought back. Five points won against the bottom two teams that season. And only one against the team who finished 17th. Provides more evidence for how vital a win is on Saturday. That De Jong header :fool: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Villa away, Norwich away and the mackems at home. I knew we were down when we lost to Norwich, it had that all too familiar envitable feeling about it that seems to follow this club. I don't have that sense this time around though and while I believe we will go down unless we strengthen and start winning games against the likes of Swansea at home, these players and Rafa will do their utmost to keep us up. Basically last time around there was a sense of no hope whatsoever, not even Rafa coming in. This time there is lots of hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Looking at the bottom half of the table we have the best GD and the most wins. Our position has been deflated down because we have lost too many matches rather than drawn. 8 out of our 12 defeats so far have been by a single goal. Huddersfield have lost 9 out of 10 times by at least two, 5 of them by at least three. fwiw, Boro conceded one or no goals 22 times last season, but only managed 5 wins all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Drawing at home to Villa around Christmas time was a stinker and one we really should have won - even as the third worst team in the league, we should've won. The Norwich defeat once Rafa had arrived was also particularly sore, having twice fought back. Five points won against the bottom two teams that season. And only one against the team who finished 17th. Provides more evidence for how vital a win is on Saturday. That De Jong header :fool: It’s all coming flooding back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Drawing at home to Villa around Christmas time was a stinker and one we really should have won - even as the third worst team in the league, we should've won. The Norwich defeat once Rafa had arrived was also particularly sore, having twice fought back. Five points won against the bottom two teams that season. And only one against the team who finished 17th. Provides more evidence for how vital a win is on Saturday. Clear handball as well by Olsson (I think) in the build up to the Norwich winner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Cisse missing an absolute sitter from 4 yards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 3rd vote, 3rd time I'm putting a 7 because things haven't changed since the first poll. It's looking less likely that Rafa will get the signings he needs, and other teams around us will strengthen or sack their managers to get bounces, 70% chance seems right. Get some signings in that Rafa wants and it could make it easier to believe we'll stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Good article: https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/jan/11/premier-league-great-divide-mid-table-clubs-gone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 You could argue it's better to have two leagues within a league, compared to having 6 or 7 clubs with nothing at all to play for. Neither are great like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 I don't think anything's changed tbh. Middle table clubs are always susceptible to pushing on or falling behind. Not to mention that Wolves, Everton, Leicester, and Southampton (although not at the moment) are obvious mid-table quality teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Wolves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 *Watford. I do that more often than I care to mention. I can't stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 3 points today and according to my my preseason ‘Crystal ball’ predictions, we’re on track for 38 points. Which is usually enough. Unspectacular, but all things considered I’d take that total now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 I'll be disappointed if we don't win today like. 3 points will take us a long way morally with 2 tough games to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 If we don't win today i'd say we're fucked. Could have done with a couple of morale boosting signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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