Alexander Isak

[KaKa]

Liverpool would never pay what it takes to land Isak.

 

It's a big part of the reason they brought Michael Edwards back, to go back to identifying prospects they can sign before they cost a bomb.

 

They're even hesitating to sign VDV and Salah to big contracts because of their age, and seems like they'd rather move on to kick start a new era with a new generation of players.

 

Seems like those two re-signing will be more down to the outside pressure from the fan base.

[Gawalls]

3 minutes ago, Wandy said:

 

Take Salah out of this current team and they arent guaranteed to be a top two team IMO. He is literally carrying them to the title himself. And as good as Isak is, he's nowhere near the current level of Salah.

We could go round in circles on this now we’re into opinions but they bring more money in than us, have spend around £200m less then us since our take over and have more sellable assets. Fact is - take off the black and white tinted glasses then if you’re ambitious you’re going to want to go there. I only hope ambition doesn’t come into his opinion too much if they do come in for him. A lot of “I thinks” in there so its just what I dread.

[Wandy]

6 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

We could go round in circles on this now we’re into opinions but they bring more money in than us, have spend around £200m less then us since our take over and have more sellable assets. Fact is - take off the black and white tinted glasses then if you’re ambitious you’re going to want to go there. I only hope ambition doesn’t come into his opinion too much if they do come in for him. A lot of “I thinks” in there so its just what I dread.

 

Yeah we will have to disagree. You dont move to a club just for its history, you go for the team you are joining, and I dont think there is much between us and LFC when you remove Salah from the equation. As long as we can match the wages LFC can offer then there is no reason to jump ship if NUFC are also qualifying for the CL.

[Ronson333]

Going to Liverpool he’ll just be another player to win them something if they were to win a trophy. With us he becomes a legend for life …This is a massive part in a player’s thinking.

[Gawalls]

4 minutes ago, Ronson333 said:

Going to Liverpool he’ll just be another player to win them something if they were to win a trophy. With us he becomes a legend for life …This is a massive part in a player’s thinking.

Agreed / just depends what he wants, none of really know that - we can just surmise and guesstimate. I hope he stays to be a legend, one thing we can agree on is at some point this will be tested.

[Coastie]

On 22/12/2024 at 16:27, TheBrownBottle said:

Henry played CF with Bergkamp behind him from the moment he joined Arsenal - he was Anelka’s replacement.  Juventus previously pushed him onto the wing because they had Del Piero, Inzaghi and Fonseca available to play central.  

True, but he hadn't been playing as a central striker and was just learning his trade when he started at Arsenal. Isak's always been a striker, hasn't he?

[M1tche]

29 minutes ago, Coastie said:

True, but he hadn't been playing as a central striker and was just learning his trade when he started at Arsenal. Isak's always been a striker, hasn't he?

Henry played wide a lot due to him being the younger of the options, but he was always a front man playing wide rather than a wide man who then played centrally. 

 

He even talks about trying to break into the France squad,  and having to to compete with Trezequet's goals to get in, when he was more of a creator at the time. Pretty sure he also says Trezequet getting picked instead made him think that he had to add more goals without dropping his creativity to get ahead 

[TheBrownBottle]

35 minutes ago, Coastie said:

True, but he hadn't been playing as a central striker and was just learning his trade when he started at Arsenal. Isak's always been a striker, hasn't he?

He’d played as a central striker regularly for Monaco and played in the 1998 World Cup semi final as a centre forward.  He was pushed onto the wing by Juventus.  Henry was always going to be a striker. 

[duo]

9 hours ago, Froggy said:

 

He has like. Hojlund is miles better than people give him credit for. 

 

I'm saying he has time on his side to get to Isak's level. 

 

[McDog]

9 minutes ago, duo said:

 

 

It just takes time is all?

[Begbie]

On 31/12/2024 at 17:42, gdm said:

What known injury record?. This over pay stuff is nonsense. The club obviously saw something in him and within a few months he was already worth what we paid and since..well since he’s sky rocketed. 

You need to look at the time we signed him not afterwards.

 

When we signed him he was comming off a season with just scoring 6 goals in La Liga, he failed making it in Germany with Dortmund. At the point when we signed him we paid more than he was worth(overpaid), and the "gamble" paid off because his price has sky rocked since even though he has been injured 193 days since joining us in 2022. I dont think Real Socidad wanted to sell him, so we wouldnt have gotten him for the market price. ie we had to overpay to get him. Howe has got the best out of him, so he has become a fantastic player and signing, I`m not sure he would have been worth as much money if Steve Bruce was still the manager..

 

Comment from Terry Gibson(Ex Man Utd and La Liga expert according to Newcastle World):

“I’m not slaughtering him (but) I think he’s got some way to go. I can see his obvious attributes would be appealing to clubs. But I just think £60 million…what does that make Oyarzabal (Sociedad captain) now?”

 

“Callum Wilson, I would say, is ahead of him. But Newcastle clearly are going in the right direction. Isak is a really good player, it’s just my mind was blown by the £60 million.”

 

Example: If you bought Tesla shares for 40 USD in 2018(worth around 20 USD) you would have overpaid for the stock, even though it has sky rocketed since and is now worth over 403 USD. If you today pay 40 USD for the Tesla share you would underpay and not pay market price.

[Begbie]

10 hours ago, Froggy said:

 

He has like. Hojlund is miles better than people give him credit for. 

 

I'm saying he has time on his side to get to Isak's level. 

 

Regarding overpaying for a player

 

My 6 year old neighbour also has time on his side to get to Isak`s level. What him and Højlund has in common is that neither atm look like making it to that level

[Mike]

7 hours ago, joeyt said:

Imagine a front three of Hatem-Isak-Gordon with our current centre mids behind them

 

Hear me out

 

Debut game Jonas - Isak - Hatem vs Enrique.

 

 

[Kanj]

Unless some club forks out a world record fee for our guy, the club won’t accept it. I don’t even think he really wants to be anywhere else at this point. If he’s flying and our def and mid are halfway competent we will win trophies here or will be in Europe and he’ll be the highest paid player at our club. 
 

there is prob real or city who can do that in current world and you know who’s in their squad. 

 

 

Edited Thursday at 00:54 by Kanj

[The College Dropout]

1 hour ago, Begbie said:

You need to look at the time we signed him not afterwards.

 

When we signed him he was comming off a season with just scoring 6 goals in La Liga, he failed making it in Germany with Dortmund. At the point when we signed him we paid more than he was worth(overpaid), and the "gamble" paid off because his price has sky rocked since even though he has been injured 193 days since joining us in 2022. I dont think Real Socidad wanted to sell him, so we wouldnt have gotten him for the market price. ie we had to overpay to get him. Howe has got the best out of him, so he has become a fantastic player and signing, I`m not sure he would have been worth as much money if Steve Bruce was still the manager..

 

Comment from Terry Gibson(Ex Man Utd and La Liga expert according to Newcastle World):

“I’m not slaughtering him (but) I think he’s got some way to go. I can see his obvious attributes would be appealing to clubs. But I just think £60 million…what does that make Oyarzabal (Sociedad captain) now?”

 

“Callum Wilson, I would say, is ahead of him. But Newcastle clearly are going in the right direction. Isak is a really good player, it’s just my mind was blown by the £60 million.”

 

Example: If you bought Tesla shares for 40 USD in 2018(worth around 20 USD) you would have overpaid for the stock, even though it has sky rocketed since and is now worth over 403 USD. If you today pay 40 USD for the Tesla share you would underpay and not pay market price.

It was obvious in ISAK’s first season that Terry Gibson and the naysayers were wrong.  

[toon25]

1 hour ago, Mike said:

 

Hear me out

 

Debut game Jonas - Isak - Hatem vs Enrique.

 

 

 

[Mike]

2 minutes ago, toon25 said:

 

 

Go back and watch that fucking game, man.

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

1 hour ago, Begbie said:

Regarding overpaying for a player

 

My 6 year old neighbour also has time on his side to get to Isak`s level. What him and Højlund has in common is that neither atm look like making it to that level

He won’t need to get to their level if he owns his own home at 6

[SteV]

Vast majority of the time you ‘overpay’ for every young player you sign, relative to what they have actually achieved.

 

Was Lewis Hall worth £40m based on a handful of appearances for Chelsea? Of course not, but we looked at him, saw what he could/would develop into and decided that price was value. Exactly like Chelsea did with Palmer.

[Stottie]

8 hours ago, Wandy said:

 

Take Salah out of this current team and they arent guaranteed to be a top two team IMO. He is literally carrying them to the title himself. And as good as Isak is, he's nowhere near the current level of Salah.

Have a hallelujah! I reckon Salah is the greatest player in Premier League history, now above Henry.

Salah deserves far more credit from the Scousers, some of which should be taken from Klopp. They need a Salah statue, not a Klopp one.

[Joe1984]

8 hours ago, Ronson333 said:

Going to Liverpool he’ll just be another player to win them something if they were to win a trophy. With us he becomes a legend for life …This is a massive part in a player’s thinking.

The TAA saga says different. At RM he'll be just another player. At Liverpool he is a legend. And yet...

[Froggy]

5 hours ago, Begbie said:

Regarding overpaying for a player

 

My 6 year old neighbour also has time on his side to get to Isak`s level. What him and Højlund has in common is that neither atm look like making it to that level

 

Hojlund scored 16 goals last year mate as a 20/21 year old.

 

Hojlund also has 16 in 25 in Europe competition as well. Isak has 4 in 25, which is proper shite. 

 

Bet your 6 year old neighbour is rubbish as well. 

[Erikse]

16 hours ago, Froggy said:

 

He has like. Hojlund is miles better than people give him credit for. 

 

I'm saying he has time on his side to get to Isak's level. 

 

 

Isak scored 17 goals in a season in La Liga (so league only) at Højlunds current age, so he better hurry.

 

 

Edited Thursday at 06:37 by Erikse

[Froggy]

31 minutes ago, Erikse said:

Isak scored 17 goals in a season in La Liga (so league only) at Højlunds current age, so he better hurry.

 

A 32 year old Martin Braithwaite scored 10 goals in La Liga last year and he couldn't make it in the Championship in his prime. Not really a league known for it's difficulty is it? Januzaj was good in Spain ffs.

 

Fact remains, Hojlund at 21 has 4x the amount of European goals Isak has. That's in a team most people consider to be massively misfiring, with the one of the main criticisms being how the wingers don't get the ball into the striker.

 

Nobody really talks about Isak's record in Europe for some reason while they're glazing him. But here, he got a hat-trick against Ipswich, give him the Ballon d'Or.

[r0cafella]

4 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

A 32 year old Martin Braithwaite scored 10 goals in La Liga last year and he couldn't make it in the Championship in his prime. Not really a league known for it's difficulty is it? Januzaj was good in Spain ffs.

 

Fact remains, Hojlund at 21 has 4x the amount of European goals Isak has. That's in a team most people consider to be massively misfiring, with the one of the main criticisms being how the wingers don't get the ball into the striker.

 

Nobody really talks about Isak's record in Europe for some reason while they're glazing him. But here, he got a hat-trick against Ipswich, give him the Ballon d'Or.

Frogman please stop spamming this thread with talk of inferior players such as Hojlund.