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janpawel

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57 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

I'm so torn about DCL. his wage demands would be high as mentioned and his goal record is thoroughly uninspiring. Two good seasons in his career which feels like an eternity ago. 

 

Surely we can do better?

I'd only be happy with DCL in these scenarios (assuming Wilson leaves and Osula may go on loan?) 

 

Osula was good/productive enough as our 2nd CF and DCL is purely a tactical 3rd choice when we want a target man / 2 CF on pitch

 

Osula goes on loan and there is no better options on the available (Delap, Emegha etc) 

 

We go big on a AM and RW, like Cunha and Mbuemo, and between the front 6, cover for Isak is sorted either with DCL or Mbuemo covering, Cunha as false 9 etc 

 

My reasoning being is that I'd rather we get people who make a difference to the starting 11 or squad, DCL seems a liability with poor scoring record, injuries and isn't young anymore. Having said that, PSR and all that so do think in some scenarios he may make sense. 

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BennyBlanco

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A 1 in 4 back up striker who doesn’t cost us a thing isn’t bad business. As much as I’d love a high tempo young striker like Delap - the position isn’t high priority. 
 

A quality RW could have us cooking next year if we can keep everyone we have now. 

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Fak

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3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Still don’t think we have bought Mitchell in to bring in the likes of DCL tbh.

 

No, but getting a squad filler on a freebie allows us to be more creative in the market in more pressing positions like RW. I assume that's where Mitchell's creativity will come into play.

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janpawel

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11 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said:

A 1 in 4 back up striker who doesn’t cost us a thing isn’t bad business. As much as I’d love a high tempo young striker like Delap - the position isn’t high priority. 
 

A quality RW could have us cooking next year if we can keep everyone we have now. 

I agree it's not a priority position, but next after CB, RW and GK for me

 

If Wilson leaves and Osula goes on loan, we definitely need a good back up striker. I don't think Isak will be able to play 50-60 games a season, and doesn't seem the best once it gets past 70 mins or so 

 

And next season it would be great to do similar to what Villa have done this season - strong European campaign, domestic cup run, and chance to make top 5. And for me having Isak and DCL wouldn't be enough for that imo 

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Elma

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Agree with that. Was against DCL a year ago when we'd have been paying a fee, but bearing in mind how little Wilson can contribute now and that DCL is five years younger, I don't think it's a bad shout as a Wilson replacement. Would be great to get a higher level CF but it might be difficult to convince one to come if we're generally playing 4-3-3 and Isak is first choice. Villa had (and are) having trouble keeping their two happy. A João Pedro or Ekitike who can play wide (right) or central would have be great in the squad, but Ekitike didn't want to come and and we prioritised Gordon over João Pedro when we seemed to only have the budget for one. Both would probably cost too much now.

 

Maybe we've identified another one and will make a move in the summer? Failing that DCL is a low risk option allowing us to focus funds elsewhere. Seems like a decent lad too who would fit into the squad without too much fuss.

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NWMag

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DCL’s wage demands might not be as bad as we think, I honestly don’t think he will get an offer from a team better than us, so it’s either take what we offer him, or go to a worse team for more money. 

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Fak

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Just now, wyn davies said:

Why refer back to DCL as a potential incoming bearing in mind June last year we decided against signing him and he's another year older.

 

We only knocked him back because his wage demands were too high no?

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Dr Venkman

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16 minutes ago, Fak said:

There's nothing wrong with DCL on a free as a backup.

If only there were some examples we could point to that show Howe can get the best out of previously uninspiring players.

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Dr.Spaceman

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10 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Still don’t think we have bought Mitchell in to bring in the likes of DCL tbh.

 

I don't think Mitchell is the only person who has a say on who we do or don't sign. Don't forget the likes of Yildiz and Cordero though, those are more Mitchell signings and we won't fully understand his impact for another few years imo. DCL is clearly someone Eddie rates, given the links over the last few years.

 

 

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Lotus

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Be very surprised if we buy from a Prem team that’s not just been relegated. 
 

I would’ve thought, with our budget restrictions and obvious squad needs we’d be looking for better value. Which is why we hired Paul Mitchell, you’d think.

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Fak

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Not every transfer is going to be a banger. Villa signed 30-year old Ross Barkley from a relegated Luton side to pad their squad out. Signing DCL as backup for nowt doesn't diminish the quality in our starting XI. He's a decent age and a canny player, he'll chip in with a few goals.

 

His injury record obviously isn't great but I don't think it's as bad as people have made out: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/dominic-calvert-lewin/verletzungen/spieler/306024

 

It's definitely an improvement on Wilson's this season: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/callum-wilson/verletzungen/spieler/123682

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Optimistic Nut

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36 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said:

A 1 in 4 back up striker who doesn’t cost us a thing isn’t bad business. As much as I’d love a high tempo young striker like Delap - the position isn’t high priority. 
 

A quality RW could have us cooking next year if we can keep everyone we have now. 

 

He'd score more goals for us in a better team.

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Thumbheed

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DCL becomes sellable if he signs. 

 

He's a good player who's played in a poor team for a number of years now, but given the right set up, with the number of chances we create he'll be an extremely useful addition who will allow us to use our resources on more critical positions.

 

 

 

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Mikky

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1 hour ago, Fak said:

There's nothing wrong with DCL on a free as a backup.


For 3rd choice then fine - but I would want someone up and coming as our 2nd choice

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Fak

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5 minutes ago, Mikky said:


For 3rd choice then fine - but I would want someone up and coming as our 2nd choice

 

I think we all would ideally.

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