Malick Thiaw

[Wallsendmag]

2 minutes ago, HMSIllustrious said:

They are not, not at all…but Nagelsmann values experience in CBs more, sadly…I don‘t trust Schlotterbeck at all.

 

It's not like Thiaw isn't prone to the odd clanger and the other issue I have with him is that none of our other CBs look all that comfortable playing alongside him, although that's maybe a slightly harsh take as Botman and Schar have had injury problems.

 

When I talk about a defensive blueprint for us I'd always refer back to the 22/23 season. We had the best defensive record in the league that year conceding 33 goals in 38 games. Botman and Schar were incredible as a CB pairing that season, both playing 41 games in all competitions. He hasn't got anywhere near to the level they played at that season so far in his time here.

[tarie4]

7 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

It's not like Thiaw isn't prone to the odd clanger and the other issue I have with him is that none of our other CBs look all that comfortable playing alongside him, although that's maybe a slightly harsh take as Botman and Schar have had injury problems.

 

When I talk about a defensive blueprint for us I'd always refer back to the 22/23 season. We had the best defensive record in the league that year conceding 33 goals in 38 games. Botman and Schar were incredible as a CB pairing that season, both playing 41 games in all competitions. He hasn't got anywhere near to the level they played at that season so far in his time here.

Who played left back that season?

[The College Dropout]

8 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

It's not like Thiaw isn't prone to the odd clanger and the other issue I have with him is that none of our other CBs look all that comfortable playing alongside him, although that's maybe a slightly harsh take as Botman and Schar have had injury problems.

 

When I talk about a defensive blueprint for us I'd always refer back to the 22/23 season. We had the best defensive record in the league that year conceding 33 goals in 38 games. Botman and Schar were incredible as a CB pairing that season, both playing 41 games in all competitions. He hasn't got anywhere near to the level they played at that season so far in his time here.

Trippier was at his best. Burn was solid and acted like a 3rd CB.  Joe’s Locked down the left, Almiron defended well.  Pope was imperious etc.  

 

I agree we’ve never looked solid with Thiaw (and that worries me)  but it’s a wider problem 

[Wallsendmag]

1 minute ago, tarie4 said:

Who played left back that season?

 

Burn played Left Back (41 apps in all competitions) and Trippier Right back (43 apps in all competitions).

[Holmesy]

10 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

It's not like Thiaw isn't prone to the odd clanger and the other issue I have with him is that none of our other CBs look all that comfortable playing alongside him, although that's maybe a slightly harsh take as Botman and Schar have had injury problems.

 

When I talk about a defensive blueprint for us I'd always refer back to the 22/23 season. We had the best defensive record in the league that year conceding 33 goals in 38 games. Botman and Schar were incredible as a CB pairing that season, both playing 41 games in all competitions. He hasn't got anywhere near to the level they played at that season so far in his time here.

I think some of his clangers can be put down to the amount of defending he had to do this season, much of which was last ditch. A more organised defence makes for fewer errors. Obviously some of them were individual mistakes but he played virtually every game and had zero protection all season. Put him in an Arsenal team and I reckon he'd look absolutely top drawer.

[Wallsendmag]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

Trippier was at his best. Burn was solid and acted like a 3rd CB.  Joe’s Locked down the left, Almiron defended well.  Pope was imperious etc.  

 

I agree we’ve never looked solid with Thiaw (and that worries me)  but it’s a wider problem 

 

Agree we were an absolute unit defensively that season and it wasn't solely down the the centre halves but with Thiaw I can only comment on what I've seen of him so far and that is that he's miles off what Botman/Schar were when we looked so commanding at the back.

[Wallsendmag]

1 minute ago, Holmesy said:

I think some of his clangers can be put down to the amount of defending he had to do this season, much of which was last ditch. A more organised defence makes for fewer errors. Obviously some of them were individual mistakes but he played virtually every game and had zero protection all season. Put him in an Arsenal team and I reckon he'd look absolutely top drawer.

 

Maybe. Maybe not. All I can go off is what I've seen with my own eyes this season and whilst I agree with what you're saying there, although he's made some other unenforced errors as well, I can see why he's not first choice for Germany. 

[bobbydazzla]

1 minute ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

Maybe. Maybe not. All I can go off is what I've seen with my own eyes this season and whilst I agree with what you're saying there, although he's made some other unenforced errors as well, I can see why he's not first choice for Germany. 

Risky business saying that you assess players with your own eyes these days.

 

Sliding your hand into a nest full of stat vipers.

[healthyaddiction]

8 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

Risky business saying that you assess players with your own eyes these days.

 

Sliding your hand into a nest full of stat vipers.

Personally I'd like to know what his expected clangers per 90 is.

[Holmesy]

12 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

Maybe. Maybe not. All I can go off is what I've seen with my own eyes this season and whilst I agree with what you're saying there, although he's made some other unenforced errors as well, I can see why he's not first choice for Germany. 

Hopefully we get to see him with a bit more protection next season. There's a top player in there.
I can also see why he doesn't start for Germany though - Rudiger, Tah and Schlotterbeck are top performers, more experienced at international level and they all play for top clubs. It's not a difficult decision 

[bobbydazzla]

15 minutes ago, healthyaddiction said:

Personally I'd like to know what his expected clangers per 90 is.