Guest Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Oh god Newcastle just announce your plans and put us out of our misery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tross Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Need to stay at current site at all costs, we move then clubs deed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 minutes ago, Tross said: Need to stay at current site at all costs, we move then clubs deed. Even if its just round the corner? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tross Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 minute ago, NG32 said: Even if its just round the corner? Aye, same site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 38 minutes ago, Paulinho said: Is that what’s happening at Newcastle? We’re losing our best players while getting further and further away from winning a trophy? Completely bizarre fantasy where people think moving to a 70k corporate bowl at the Silverlink would magically produce success. It wouldn’t, it’d just further neuter the match day experience while allowing gorms on the internet to brag about attendances like Top Trumps. I'm yet to speak to a Newcastle fan who thinks that moving to somewhere like the Silverlink would be a good idea mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 5 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: I'm yet to speak to a Newcastle fan who thinks that moving to somewhere like the Silverlink would be a good idea mind Silverlink, its the most dire soulless place on the planet, its just a massive car park surrounded by crap shops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wallsendmag Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 35 minutes ago, NG32 said: Silverlink, its the most dire soulless place on the planet, its just a massive car park surrounded by crap shops. It's just your generic out of town retail park, the likes of what have been popping up all over the Country these past 25 years or so. I live 5 minutes drive away, and it serves a purpose at times although I'm far from a regular visitor. Couldn't think of a worse place to build a stadium, nor do I see where there's room to put a 70k ground there anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 18 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: It's just your generic out of town retail park, the likes of what have been popping up all over the Country these past 25 years or so. I live 5 minutes drive away, and it serves a purpose at times although I'm far from a regular visitor. Couldn't think of a worse place to build a stadium, nor do I see where there's room to put a 70k ground there anyway. Yeah same here, we only drop in if its the absolute last option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Staying at the current capacity at SJP would be infinitely preferable to moving out of town. Nothing out of town should even be on the table. Hopefully it isn’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choppy Chop Chop Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, NG32 said: Silverlink, its the most dire soulless place on the planet, its just a massive car park surrounded by crap shops. Imagine trying to get anywhere near on a matchday! you would need to start queuing the day before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 minutes ago, Choppy Chop Chop said: Imagine trying to get anywhere near on a matchday! you would need to start queuing the day before I'd never get home ffs. Move to a larger site in and around Newcastle yeah, outside obviously No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 7 minutes ago, Choppy Chop Chop said: Imagine trying to get anywhere near on a matchday! you would need to start queuing the day before It would be carnage coming off the A19 road and then all the shoppers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Paulinho said: Is that what’s happening at Newcastle? We’re losing our best players while getting further and further away from winning a trophy? Completely bizarre fantasy where people think moving to a 70k corporate bowl at the Silverlink would magically produce success. It wouldn’t, it’d just further neuter the match day experience while allowing gorms on the internet to brag about attendances like Top Trumps. It’s what’s GOING to happen… Thats the problem with some people. They can’t look any further than their own noses at times. This is about the next 10-20-30-40 years and beyond when I’m long gone not about us sitting 5th and still in two cups this season. The UEFA regulations are going to be stricter than than the EPL current ones which already now we are having to sell players we don’t want to and not able to buy anyone of progressive note in 2 possibly 3 transfer windows. Wages unfortunately is the main way to keep players without success and they are intrinsically tied to both sets of rules. Here’s a little heads up. Players wages rarely go down. As it stands at the start of each season Man City can spend £260m more than us due to their turnover ratio alone never mind their ability to sell youth players unable to make the first team for £30-40m (or a backup striker for £85m) which are fees we see as a mainstay first teamers which makes their transfer pot even greater than £260m bigger. They are currently increasing their capacity to an already modern stadium. Arsenal have similar advantages and they’ve realised within 20years they were a bit shortsighted in their new ground capacity and now looking to increase and make the gap bigger. Spurs are making something like £100m more despite tied to £25m per year interest payments on the new stadium which they’ll eventually pay off. Chelsea are the closest to maybe trying to do things whilst staying at a small ground but the cheapest tickets that leads to is around £90 and have a completely different economical catchment area as well a 20 year head start on us. Liverpool have expanded too and still have one eye in the future to move if they can’t keep up and they’ve a 20 year head start also. Everton and Villa will challenge in the chasing pack despite where they currently lie in the table. Even Leeds and others not even in our division. Look what Real Madrid have built and Barcelona are building amongst other clubs in Spain and Europe. I think it’s you who’s living in fantasy land thinking remaining as we are will lead us to the top table of European football. We are only anywhere close because Howe is a miracle worker and we’ve had an almost perfect success rate in the transfer window. That will not always be the case and as the other clubs get bigger and bigger any thought of silverware will feel just as distant as it did under Ashley. I think most agree the location needs to be as central as possible for a new stadium. Turning your nose up at a fully paid for new stadium that would bring multi generational change is nothing but shortsightedness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Don’t know how being in a league cup semi, 2-0 up in the second leg is “getting further and further away from a trophy”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 minute ago, Joelinton7 said: Don’t know how being in a league cup semi, 2-0 up in the second leg is “getting further and further away from a trophy”. Congrats on completely missing LFEE's point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I'm absolutely begging them to extend Gallowgate, modernise all four stands to make it look somewhat all the same all the way around (like the Aviva in Dublin but to a lesser extreme). 100 more executive boxes stretched around Gallowgate and Leazes. Completely refurbish the corporate. The stadium is the most perfectly positioned in the world IMO - don't want to lose that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 17 minutes ago, MagCA said: Congrats on completely missing LFEE's point. What was the point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said: What was the point? It's pretty clear, just read what he's writing. Everyone's expanding/rebuilding. If we don't, we get left behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, Shearergol said: It's pretty clear, just read what he's writing. Everyone's expanding/rebuilding. If we don't, we get left behind. I agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 20 minutes ago, Fenham Mag said: I'm absolutely begging them to extend Gallowgate, modernise all four stands to make it look somewhat all the same all the way around (like the Aviva in Dublin but to a lesser extreme). 100 more executive boxes stretched around Gallowgate and Leazes. Completely refurbish the corporate. The stadium is the most perfectly positioned in the world IMO - don't want to lose that. I can’t see how it can be made big enough though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Past few years it's been "if you stay still you're actually moving backwards" in the PL. We're rapidly approaching the point where it's "if you're improving you better be doing it at at least the pace of others or you're getting left behind." As long as FFP/PSR are the reality then anyone who's taking the big strides to improve their matchday/events income will, in time, move past us if we don't. For better in worse, within 5-10 years the PL will likely be comprised on 20 teams with these money making machines of stadiums like Spurs etc. The quicker we get to that point, the quicker we can unlock the potential that comes with the sheer wealth of our principle owners. I do concur it's not an easy dilema to solve, the history and fanbase of this club imparticular can sometimes make this sort of heartstring stuff harder than it would be for another club. You think a Bournemouth fan is going to twist at the idea of leaving the Vitality for a 40k stadium which, thanks to it being more modern/having more corporate, will likely generate more than a 52k SJP does on a matchday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 12 minutes ago, Fenham Mag said: I'm absolutely begging them to extend Gallowgate, modernise all four stands to make it look somewhat all the same all the way around (like the Aviva in Dublin but to a lesser extreme). 100 more executive boxes stretched around Gallowgate and Leazes. Completely refurbish the corporate. The stadium is the most perfectly positioned in the world IMO - don't want to lose that. Put simply there just isn't the space at the current SJP for all the extra corporate, boxes etc. Look at the footprint of our ground and then compare to Spurs or Arsenal and see what I mean. We just don't have the room. We're currently paying Fenwicks and Hadrians Tower to host a lot of our corporate supporters. End of the day it depends what people want. If you're happy to give the really best performing clubs in the Country a £200m headstart every season as a trade in for remaining at SJP then that's fair enough, there's plenty in that boat I guess. If you're wanting to explore what could well be a once in a lifetime opportunity to see how big this club can get, to have us up there with the very best in the Country from a financial perspective, and to give us the very best opportunity to not only get right up there, but stay there, then the trade off would be leaving SJP. If it was a hop over to Leazes Park or Castle Leazes I personally can't see the issue there. Ultimately it's a plot of land, the actual structure perched on it resembles nothing like it did when I started going there back in 1984. If the trade off was to an out of town location I'd suggest it's an entirely different conversation altogether, and not one people would be on board with. My opinion is that the happy medium is the one I'd be most behind. Ultimately I just want the club to be the best it can possibly be, and not hamstrung in any way shape or form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 hours ago, Tross said: Need to stay at current site at all costs, we move then clubs deed. Absolute nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 hours ago, Tross said: Need to stay at current site at all costs, we move then clubs deed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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