Guest DavB93 Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Anyone just hear that "Just in" on SSN about Berbatov? What about Berbatov? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 We are keeping both of them!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Tevez is in the same boat as Owen. Happy where he is but if a big club comes in, he's off like a shot. Not a cat in hell's chance he'd move from West Ham to Newcastle. Difference is we're potentially a big club, and thats without a huge extrenal investment - weve had the resources and infrastructure to challenge the big boys, but weve failed in recent years due to poor decision making at board level and not having the setup in place to take advantage of our resources. Outsiders who know a bit about our club know this, and theyll probably see that these problems should be rectified with the appointment of Allardyce - add the possible takeover by a cash rich billionaire, and its hard not to see us as a step up from West Ham, who only have the latter. Granted were not a true big club in respect of current success, but then by the same standards West Ham have hardly been successful, getting relegated recently and nearly being relegated again, whilst it was only a few years ago that we were title pretenders and playing in the CL. Hence, if noone is willing to match Tevez' valuation but we were, then what would stop him coming to us? Tevez is in the same boat as Owen. Happy where he is but if a big club comes in, he's off like a shot. Not a cat in hell's chance he'd move from West Ham to Newcastle. I have no doubt a large bid would secure Tevez unless we were up against Liv or ManU (Chelsea have sorted their strikers). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Anyone just hear that "Just in" on SSN about Berbatov? So are you going to enlighten us or what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 EMO and FAB for me. They'll be awesome up front. Viduka to hold up the ball and bring the midfield into play and Owen to poach in the box. Looking forward to it already! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Owen is simply a world class finsher. I cant see how some people are picking Oba ahead of him. - Finally, Owen as a player. Great finisher, yes, but he can also go for games without doing anything at all. He brings very little to the team and often spends the entire game waiting for a through ball that you need a Zidane to play, and on top of this hes lost some pace which makes it even harder to use his movement effectively as some of the balls hes looking for he simply doesnt have the pace to make up the ground. Hes also a problem tactically - can he play in a 4-3-3 that Allardyce has always favoured with Bolton? And Oba is different? Oba is far more involved in open play than Owen. Unfortunately, having an erratic touch and often being on a different wavelength to his teamates reduces his contribution to the team. Thats different to Owen, who hardly gets involved at all because of the way he plays the game. He has little interest in coming deep for the ball, his game isnt about holding the ball up or using it effectively when he has it. Its all about staying on the last defender's shoulders for the entire game. Point being, its often as though the team is playing with 10 men, and that is deemed acceptable because were rolling the dice with that 11th player - ie, if he gets a chance, hell score, and its worth having him on the pitch just for that. Hence, if he doesnt get a chance, he normally does practically nothing. Problem with this is that although its great to have such a top finisher, we could probably replace him with someone who is still a good finisher, but who can also contribute alot more to the team. Again, thats different to Martins, who youd expect to improve his contribution with some good coaching and some more experience/composure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 When you include wages, potential return on investment, injury record, then keeping Oba over Owen is the option everytime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 I see Owen as our Shearer, Viduka as our Ferdinand, and Martins as our Asprilla. ...yeah but you have to choose. Oh... it's one of those threads. I choose Martins to stay. Over Owen one of the greatest finishers in Engish football ever? Owen's value is decreasing every year. He's lost most of his pace (so it seems). Lacks commitment, doesn't really want to stay (so it seems). Very injury prone. Astronomical wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Martins, but both will stay, for the time being, although Martins may not be first choice anymore and even Owen may be rotated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 keep martins. he's only 22, also if he was the same age, i'd still keep him over owen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest khyberpass Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Martins for me, based on the pace... totally honest, would like to see both stay as Owen could teach Oba a bucketload to improve his lay... Plus..my scouse mates are all chirping on about Owen having "barren patches" after which he'll start scoring like a " sex maniac in a whore house"... cracking turn of phrase from the worst fans in Europe! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Martins for me, based on the pace... totally honest, would like to see both stay as Owen could teach Oba a bucketload to improve his lay... Must......resist..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest khyberpass Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Martins for me, based on the pace... totally honest, would like to see both stay as Owen could teach Oba a bucketload to improve his lay... Must......resist..... OOPS! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 I think we're keeping both... but.... Assuming that Owen stays to the end of his contract (big assumption) and stays healthy (bigger assumption), I'd keep him. In a full season he'd score more goals than Martins every time. And the club couldn't possibly sell him for anything like the money spent to buy him. Whereas, the club could easily recuperate the money spent on Martins. In the real world, I'd bet on Martins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 When you include wages, potential return on investment, injury record, then keeping Oba over Owen is the option everytime. Conveniently ignoring who is by far the better player though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Texasmag Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Just read on another forum MO could be off to Everton. Don't think they could afford his wages! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kmdnufc Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 We'll keep them both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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