Guest ChickenKiev Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Now this is a proper stadium: http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/711/544bigdi7.jpg Shot at 2007-07-25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 I know all about the planning process, thank you. Planners can't decline an application because the proposal is ugly. Then you don't know as much about the planning process as you think you do. They can't. If a plan confirms to local and national policy contained in Planning Policy Guidelines and Planning Policy Statements as well as Liverpool's Local Development Framework and any adopted local plans then the planners can't just decline the application because it is ugly. Well they could but the developer would win on appeal. Even when its on listed ground surrounded by listed buildings? The architect seemed to think that could be a problem, am no expert, but he is. Then it would be subject to PPG15 and other government guidelines and policy. So what does that mean for them, could the ground be changed to fit the surroundings better? It would make things very complicated, without looking into it I do not know what exactly is listed in the area of the proposed stadium but there will be guidelines and policy that must be adhered to in order to have a chance of getting planning permission. You would think any developer would look into this before submitting any plans. If the proposal would have a serious impact on certain listed buildings then I would be surprised that they have even submitted plans, it would be like us submitted plans for a massive East Stand knowing that planning permission is very unlikely due to the listed buildings behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 I know all about the planning process, thank you. Planners can't decline an application because the proposal is ugly. Then you don't know as much about the planning process as you think you do. They can't. If a plan confirms to local and national policy contained in Planning Policy Guidelines and Planning Policy Statements as well as Liverpool's Local Development Framework and any adopted local plans then the planners can't just decline the application because it is ugly. Well they could but the developer would win on appeal. Even when its on listed ground surrounded by listed buildings? The architect seemed to think that could be a problem, am no expert, but he is. Then it would be subject to PPG15 and other government guidelines and policy. So what does that mean for them, could the ground be changed to fit the surroundings better? It would make things very complicated, without looking into it I do not know what exactly is listed in the area of the proposed stadium but there will be guidelines and policy that must be adhered to in order to have a chance of getting planning permission. You would think any developer would look into this before submitting any plans. If the proposal would have a serious impact on certain listed buildings then I would be surprised that they have even submitted plans, it would be like us submitted plans for a massive East Stand knowing that planning permission is very unlikely due to the listed buildings behind. Should get interesting in the next few weeks. Like i said before i'm happy for them to be getting a new stadium and to be doing something different, i'm not being bitter about this just a lot more vocal than usual as there's fuk all else to talk about right now. Good luck to Liverpool, lets just hope our own expansion past 60k goes ahead within the same timescale and it really wont effect us in the long term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 I know all about the planning process, thank you. Planners can't decline an application because the proposal is ugly. Then you don't know as much about the planning process as you think you do. They can't. If a plan confirms to local and national policy contained in Planning Policy Guidelines and Planning Policy Statements as well as Liverpool's Local Development Framework and any adopted local plans then the planners can't just decline the application because it is ugly. Well they could but the developer would win on appeal. Even when its on listed ground surrounded by listed buildings? The architect seemed to think that could be a problem, am no expert, but he is. Then it would be subject to PPG15 and other government guidelines and policy. So what does that mean for them, could the ground be changed to fit the surroundings better? It would make things very complicated, without looking into it I do not know what exactly is listed in the area of the proposed stadium but there will be guidelines and policy that must be adhered to in order to have a chance of getting planning permission. You would think any developer would look into this before submitting any plans. If the proposal would have a serious impact on certain listed buildings then I would be surprised that they have even submitted plans, it would be like us submitted plans for a massive East Stand knowing that planning permission is very unlikely due to the listed buildings behind. Should get interesting in the next few weeks. Like i said before i'm happy for them to be getting a new stadium and to be doing something different, i'm not being bitter about this just a lot more vocal than usual as there's fuk all else to talk about right now. Good luck to Liverpool, lets just hope our own expansion past 60k goes ahead within the same timescale and it really wont effect us in the long term. I hope it gets built, it is unique and I like that. Nothing worse than everyone having an identikit stadium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 That type of shitty sweeping curve along the outside is a decidedly un-american feature. Not that I'd expect you inferiority-complex having limey cuntrags to understand that. By god you insecure motherfuckers go out of your way to link something you don't like to an american in some way just to extrapolate that as though it was something all of the USoA voted on as a whole so you can sit around and jack each other off over tea, pip-pipping and cheerio-ing how happy you are to be ruled by an inbred moncarchy and how silly all those yanks are. Go f*** yourselves. What a crap wind up. "pip-pipping and cheerio-ing" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest trotter58 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 I hope it gets built, it is unique and I like that. Nothing worse than everyone having an identikit stadium. It's not unique. It's an identikit American football stadium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 I hope it gets built, it is unique and I like that. Nothing worse than everyone having an identikit stadium. It's not unique. It's an identikit American football stadium. It is unique in this country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest trotter58 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Could have been worse. Here's one they made earlier: http://www.stadiumsofnfl.com/future/los904.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 I hope it gets built, it is unique and I like that. Nothing worse than everyone having an identikit stadium. It's not unique. It's an identikit American football stadium. Post a picture of one that looks identical to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest trotter58 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Post a picture of one that looks identical to that. Identical to what? New Liverpool ground? American football stadiums traditionally have steep stands at the side of the pitch and separate seating at the 'end zone'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Its the sound, of a bike, being pedaled backwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/newstadium/images/2007/edit-0707-STADIUM-in1.jpg Looks good, at least it's different to the 80% concrete stadiums that have been built lately. NO CORNERS? LOOKS SHIT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Post a picture of one that looks identical to that. Identical to what? New Liverpool ground? American football stadiums traditionally have steep stands at the side of the pitch and separate seating at the 'end zone'. Identical to the outside, of course it's going to look similar inside. What do you expect it to look like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 NO CORNERS? LOOKS SHIT That's the 60k seater, when they get permission for the extra 18k seats they'll fill the corners in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Where's Rafa, btw? Wonder what his view is on this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Can't see Liverpool filling an 80,000 stadium, that's an extra 35,000 fans. I remember the year they won the Champions League they only got 30,000 in the group stage. 60,000 would be about right for them, unless they're winning the league year on year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest trotter58 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Post a picture of one that looks identical to that. Identical to what? New Liverpool ground? American football stadiums traditionally have steep stands at the side of the pitch and separate seating at the 'end zone'. Identical to the outside, of course it's going to look similar inside. What do you expect it to look like? Who gives a flying f**k what it looks like on the outside! I'm talking about the inside, where the actual game takes place! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Someone said it was Unique You said it was identikit How can it be a identikit stadium if it looks nothing like anything else? If you're saying it looks like others on the inside then nearly every stadium in the world is identical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Fucking sick of this now, I had SSN on at 11am when the news broke. Surely something more exciting is happening somewhere in the world of football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest trotter58 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Someone said it was Unique You said it was identikit How can it be a identikit stadium if it looks nothing like anything else? If you're saying it looks like others on the inside then nearly every stadium in the world is identical. O.K. i'll expand on what i said (for the hard of thinking) It is not unique because it looks like the INSIDE of an American football stadium rather than a traditional bowl-shaped English football stadium for reasons i've already explained. Pardon me for crediting you with some intelligence, i'll know better in future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaehyun Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 What the **** is that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 What the **** is that? an airport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Looks good, at least it's different to the 80% concrete stadiums that have been built lately. Concrete stadiums? What do you think this will be made out of? Glass, concrete and steel, the same as all the other stadiums are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Where's Rafa, btw? Wonder what his view is on this. Hes been on SSN and said he hasnt had any say on this bedcause they have been busy with the Champions League FUCK OFF Rafa! I dont mind it, i like how they have tried to keep the Kop individual from the rest of the stadium, personally i dunno if this has worked but, nice idea. I think the square front glass bit does look like a library/college! Its OK, nothing to shout about imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6800/44019535liverpool416bi9.jpg I can see hardly any concrete there which is a good thing, the bottom half of the Emirates and Wembley are basically just a massive block of characterless concrete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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