Guest Invicta_Toon Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 what a crock of s*** What is? this: "The agreement confirms that West Ham do have a valid player's contract with Carlos Tevez and hold the registration of the player. This will be released once [£2m] has been paid to the club." - West Ham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 A 2 year loan deal, after all that fkn about, this deal is just because non of them wanted to wait for it to go to court. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/6929552.stm Q&A on Tevez deal By James Munro BBC sports news correspondent Carlos Tevez Tevez can now finally complete a move to Man Utd One of the most protracted and complicated moves in English football is set to be resolved with Carlos Tevez poised to switch from West Ham to Manchester United. The matter was set to go to the High Court on 22 August but talks between West Ham and the Tevez camp are set to have avoided any such scenario. After months of complex negotiations, the matter seems to be ending - and this is why the deal has became one of football's most drawn-out sagas. WHY IS THE TEVEZ DEAL SO COMPLICATED? It's because Media Sports Investment (MSI) and Just Sports Inc, which owns the player's economic rights, and West Ham, which holds the player's registration, fell out over how much compensation the club would need to release him. And the Premier League needed to be satisfied the sum would be enough to prove that it was West Ham, and not a third party, which owned the player's registration. About £2m appears to have satisfied all three parties. WHY A LOAN MOVE TO MAN UTD AND NOT A PERMANENT DEAL? A similar deal was struck with Liverpool when his Argentine team-mate, Javier Mascherano, moved from West Ham. It is a complicated formula designed to ensure that the club and MSI do not break the Premier League's rules on third party agreements. But part of the loan deal would be the offer of a permanent transfer, perhaps in 2009. HOW MUCH DO WE EXPECT MAN UTD TO PAY? No figures have been made public, but Tevez would be expected to earn more than £4m a year. Any permanent deal could see Manchester United pay around £25m. WHO IS GETTING THE MONEY FOR THE DEAL? Kia Joorabchian Tevez's representative Joorabchian had threatened West Ham with a High Court hearing MSI's representative Kia Joorabchian has negotiated the deal with Manchester United which should be concluded this weekend. The company can expect a one-off payment of more than £5m. West Ham will get around £2m in compensation. MSI would also benefit from any permanent transfer deal. DOES THE OUTCOME CONTRADICT WEST HAM SAYING THEY HAD TORN UP THE THIRD PARTY AGREEMENT WITH THE TEVEZ CAMP? In normal circumstances, the selling club would earn the transfer fee but this is no ordinary contract. West Ham insist that the deal proves that it was the club's decision to release Tevez - and part of their compromise deal with MSI is that all legal action is off. The Premier League would only have accepted the deal if their lawyers were sure that it proved beyond doubt that it was West Ham's decision to release Tevez from his contract, and not MSI's. They have got an eye on the threat of legal action by Sheffield United. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR SHEFFIELD UNITED? If West Ham had have been docked points rather than fined at the initial hearing into the transfers of Tevez and Javier Mascherano it is almost certain Sheffield United would have stayed up at the expense of the Upton Park side. Hence their interest. The club says it will study the deal closely before deciding upon its next course of action. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardsleymagic Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 It seems to me as if WHU don't get a hefty transfer fee then they didn't own him last season, hence, this surely proves they should have been docked points. Doesn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJbarnes Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 loaded magazine says west ham were officially voted 6th most hated club in the UK! (see below)blatantly all sheffield fans although i also hate them but not as much as chelsea. strange to think that they will soon have 4 ex newcastle players in parker, dyer, bellamy, and bowyer. loaded's order of hatredness: man u, chelsea, leeds, arsenal, liverpool, west ham, spurs, newcastle, millwall, other. interesting that we are so high up! where are bolton? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 They get rid of Smith and replace him with Tevez, making a 4m profit in the process..? They're paying 10m to loan him for 2 years with a option to buy him for 20m at the end of the loan. How much are Liverpool paying for Mascherano? Anyone know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 So basically, West Ham have sold him back to MSI for £2m, and Man Utd have loaned him from MSI? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UV Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 West Ham insist that the deal proves that it was the club's decision to release Tevez Yup, £2m for Tevez is just too much of a good deal to turn down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardsleymagic Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 This whole business stinks to high heaven. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Invicta_Toon Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 If I was shinawatra I'd have my lawyers onto the PL these fuckers having the temerity to do a fit and proper test, when they are as corrupt as fuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Thing is if Sheff Utd take this to court they will lose again because West Ham did own him by the letter of the law, even though everybody knows they didn't. The PL and WH have weasled their way out of this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Get in, we wont have to hear 'Carlos Tevez saga' being said a million times an hour on sky sports news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bateman Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 So basically, West Ham have sold him back to MSI for £2m, and Man Utd have loaned him from MSI? westham have sold back his remaining 2years playing registration MSI always owned the economic rights as they do with Mascherano at pool, wait 2 years when manu contract is up and he wants to go to Barca or Madrid expect another summer of Sky sports tevez....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 So basically, West Ham have sold him back to MSI for £2m, and Man Utd have loaned him from MSI? westham have sold back his remaining 2years playing registration MSI always owned the economic rights as they do with Mascherano at pool, wait 2 years when manu contract is up and he wants to go to Barca or Madrid expect another summer of Sky sports tevez....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Unless Man Utd rip up his contract and claim they now own him there should be no trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearer9 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Perhaps West Ham decided not to fight Joorabchian because they knew the deal was dodgy, and didn't need any more trickt details leaking out in the high court. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 The FA had nothing to do with either punishment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest unrealterrorist Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 yipee WHO CARES!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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