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Be interesting to hear what Allardyce has to say, bearing in mind that it was he who crippled this squad. We need Viduka on for the second half, and tell the wide players to stay wide.

We've had a shot

Nicky Butt has a live link to this forum during the game. Interestingly, the crowd aren't actually getting on the player's backs, so I doubt they can use that excuse. I'll be more of a superfan like you in the future though, sorry.

shut up FFS Does my prediction make a difference to the game or something? The players don't have a clue how to create chances, simple as. Should have bought Diarra when we had the chance - seemed to be behind all of Portsmouth's good play yesterday.

We won't score in this game.

At least N'Zogbia isn't at left back anymore............

Hold on. Smith's playing? Much better than Owen, or any of our midfielders. He'll no doubt get singled out again though.

Emre, Barton and Butt may as well have just stayed at home. There's more quality in the Championship. WTF has happened to them all?

Taylor, Cacapa and Given are just going to play triangle passing for the rest of the game, before one of them launch it long. Great stuff to watch. Please please please buy a creative midfielder in summer

Well we can't complain about the Arsenal results, but if we can't beat this shower of shite, especially with so many players missing, we should be embarrassed. Another Owen goal ruled out.

We don't seem to have any shape whatsoever. N'Zogbia is drifting to the right, with Duff and Barton always inside. No wonder we're easy to defend against.

This might be another Bolton. Boro seem to be putting 10 men behind the ball every time we get it. They keep showing the replay of the disallowed goal. I know they like to protect the keeper nowadays, but surely if he's not touched it can't be a foul??

Keeper pushed over by the wind.

Allardyce can get fucked. What a bitter tosser. It's our fault; hmm ok.

How many has Giles Barnes got Dave out of interest? 1 goal, 1 assist, in a worse team A worse team that he can't get a regular start in? Well this is a fruitless conversation. You rate our midfielders above Barnes. I rate Barnes above our midfielders. We agreed?

How many has Giles Barnes got Dave out of interest? 1 goal, 1 assist, in a worse team

Isn't Bramble a perfect example? not really, he came for a big fee after 2 premiership seasons. the young lads we've signed now have little first team experience between them and are going to play with the academy teams and reserves. more comparable to Bernard, or our intentions for N'Zogbia (though he developed quicker than expected), or as Nut pointed out, the likes of Pinas and Gudjohnsen that Dalglish signed. let's hope they turn out more like Robson's duo than Dalglish's. Correct. Recall also that KK plucked Aaron Hughes at a very young age, and he spent quite a while playing youth team football. yeah forgot about Hughes. Emre has 3 assists. Ramage has an assist without even starting a game. You're not counting N'Zogbia's goal at Boro as an assist are you? It's on the stats sheet. Couldn't think which goal it was though Emre has 4 assists. not including that one. Does he? Link? When gol asks for da link it means war.

Isn't Bramble a perfect example? not really, he came for a big fee after 2 premiership seasons. the young lads we've signed now have little first team experience between them and are going to play with the academy teams and reserves. more comparable to Bernard, or our intentions for N'Zogbia (though he developed quicker than expected), or as Nut pointed out, the likes of Pinas and Gudjohnsen that Dalglish signed. let's hope they turn out more like Robson's duo than Dalglish's. Correct. Recall also that KK plucked Aaron Hughes at a very young age, and he spent quite a while playing youth team football. yeah forgot about Hughes. Emre has 3 assists. Ramage has an assist without even starting a game. You're not counting N'Zogbia's goal at Boro as an assist are you? It's on the stats sheet. Couldn't think which goal it was though Emre has 4 assists. not including that one. Does he? Link?

Emre has 3 assists. Ramage has an assist without even starting a game. You're not counting N'Zogbia's goal at Boro as an assist are you? It's on the stats sheet. Couldn't think which goal it was though

Emre has 3 assists. Ramage has an assist without even starting a game.

Isn't Bramble a perfect example?

Spend big =/= spend well. You HAVE to spend big to attract the players who will be good enough to improve us. Again, the Barnes deal has proved that. would barnes have improved us ? i wouldn't have put him inour starting 11 and derby fans don't reckon he's kicked on since looking good last season in an easier league. i don't even think he has been an auto first choice for them this season so it just maybe that the powers that be didn't judge £3mill a decent price for his potential. as for spending etc and attracting players. man city seemed to do it at the start of this season. Man City had the advantage that although Sven seemed to be hated by England fans, he was still a manager players wanted to play for. Hopefully Keegan will have that still too. Barnes would certainly improve our midfield. Taking Emre, Butt, Barton, Geremi and Smith out of central midfield would improve any team. aye righto Ok, I'll put it another way. He's better than all of those. No disrespect Gol...but that's bullshit. Saying that he MAY turn out to be better is probably a fairer statement. All the players mentioned above (bar Smith) are full internationals (or have been) in that position on the field. Barnes is still a relative unknown in top flight football. Which of them do you currently rate as better players than Barnes? It doesn't matter how good they used to be (Geremi for one used to be fantastic in Spain), if they're shite now, they're shite now, simple as. Butt is useless - I struggle to see what he actually does. Emre needs shipping off ASAP, as he's done nothing for us since signing, other than a couple of wonder goals (sounds a bit like Martins). The only one who I'd keep is Barton, and I'm yet to see any football ability from him since signing (which is strange as he was so good at City). Barnes would get in the team in front of all of those players at the moment. Emre and Barton will offer us more now than Barnes will, the lad can't even get a regular start at Derby although he clearly has the potential to be a good player in the future. The same thing is said about Emre every single time he comes back from injury or suspension. The sad thing is, it's saying much more about how poor our midfield really is than how good Barnes is. Personally I think we should be looking at much better players than him, but if we signed him he'd certainly (in my opinion) be playing.

if he was playing here the fans would be screaming at him for not tracking back, like Ginola and Robert If he was playing here it would mean we're successful, so I doubt that

Spend big =/= spend well. You HAVE to spend big to attract the players who will be good enough to improve us. Again, the Barnes deal has proved that. would barnes have improved us ? i wouldn't have put him inour starting 11 and derby fans don't reckon he's kicked on since looking good last season in an easier league. i don't even think he has been an auto first choice for them this season so it just maybe that the powers that be didn't judge £3mill a decent price for his potential. as for spending etc and attracting players. man city seemed to do it at the start of this season. Man City had the advantage that although Sven seemed to be hated by England fans, he was still a manager players wanted to play for. Hopefully Keegan will have that still too. Barnes would certainly improve our midfield. Taking Emre, Butt, Barton, Geremi and Smith out of central midfield would improve any team. aye righto Ok, I'll put it another way. He's better than all of those. No disrespect Gol...but that's bullshit. Saying that he MAY turn out to be better is probably a fairer statement. All the players mentioned above (bar Smith) are full internationals (or have been) in that position on the field. Barnes is still a relative unknown in top flight football. Which of them do you currently rate as better players than Barnes? It doesn't matter how good they used to be (Geremi for one used to be fantastic in Spain), if they're shite now, they're shite now, simple as. Butt is useless - I struggle to see what he actually does. Emre needs shipping off ASAP, as he's done nothing for us since signing, other than a couple of wonder goals (sounds a bit like Martins). The only one who I'd keep is Barton, and I'm yet to see any football ability from him since signing (which is strange as he was so good at City). Barnes would get in the team in front of all of those players at the moment.

Spend big =/= spend well. You HAVE to spend big to attract the players who will be good enough to improve us. Again, the Barnes deal has proved that. would barnes have improved us ? i wouldn't have put him inour starting 11 and derby fans don't reckon he's kicked on since looking good last season in an easier league. i don't even think he has been an auto first choice for them this season so it just maybe that the powers that be didn't judge £3mill a decent price for his potential. as for spending etc and attracting players. man city seemed to do it at the start of this season. Man City had the advantage that although Sven seemed to be hated by England fans, he was still a manager players wanted to play for. Hopefully Keegan will have that still too. Barnes would certainly improve our midfield. Taking Emre, Butt, Barton, Geremi and Smith out of central midfield would improve any team. aye righto Ok, I'll put it another way. He's better than all of those.