Greg

100 percent agree, they made themselves look like fools going on like that You do know that more than one person runs .com? Has it never crossed your mind that they might have different opinions?

It's not unique. It's an identikit American football stadium. It is unique in this country.

Then you don't know as much about the planning process as you think you do. They can't. If a plan confirms to local and national policy contained in Planning Policy Guidelines and Planning Policy Statements as well as Liverpool's Local Development Framework and any adopted local plans then the planners can't just decline the application because it is ugly. Well they could but the developer would win on appeal. Even when its on listed ground surrounded by listed buildings? The architect seemed to think that could be a problem, am no expert, but he is. Then it would be subject to PPG15 and other government guidelines and policy. So what does that mean for them, could the ground be changed to fit the surroundings better? It would make things very complicated, without looking into it I do not know what exactly is listed in the area of the proposed stadium but there will be guidelines and policy that must be adhered to in order to have a chance of getting planning permission. You would think any developer would look into this before submitting any plans. If the proposal would have a serious impact on certain listed buildings then I would be surprised that they have even submitted plans, it would be like us submitted plans for a massive East Stand knowing that planning permission is very unlikely due to the listed buildings behind. Should get interesting in the next few weeks. Like i said before i'm happy for them to be getting a new stadium and to be doing something different, i'm not being bitter about this just a lot more vocal than usual as there's fuk all else to talk about right now. Good luck to Liverpool, lets just hope our own expansion past 60k goes ahead within the same timescale and it really wont effect us in the long term. I hope it gets built, it is unique and I like that. Nothing worse than everyone having an identikit stadium.

Then you don't know as much about the planning process as you think you do. They can't. If a plan confirms to local and national policy contained in Planning Policy Guidelines and Planning Policy Statements as well as Liverpool's Local Development Framework and any adopted local plans then the planners can't just decline the application because it is ugly. Well they could but the developer would win on appeal. Even when its on listed ground surrounded by listed buildings? The architect seemed to think that could be a problem, am no expert, but he is. Then it would be subject to PPG15 and other government guidelines and policy. So what does that mean for them, could the ground be changed to fit the surroundings better? It would make things very complicated, without looking into it I do not know what exactly is listed in the area of the proposed stadium but there will be guidelines and policy that must be adhered to in order to have a chance of getting planning permission. You would think any developer would look into this before submitting any plans. If the proposal would have a serious impact on certain listed buildings then I would be surprised that they have even submitted plans, it would be like us submitted plans for a massive East Stand knowing that planning permission is very unlikely due to the listed buildings behind.

Then you don't know as much about the planning process as you think you do. They can't. If a plan confirms to local and national policy contained in Planning Policy Guidelines and Planning Policy Statements as well as Liverpool's Local Development Framework and any adopted local plans then the planners can't just decline the application because it is ugly. Well they could but the developer would win on appeal. Even when its on listed ground surrounded by listed buildings? The architect seemed to think that could be a problem, am no expert, but he is. Then it would be subject to PPG15 and other government guidelines and policy.

Then you don't know as much about the planning process as you think you do. They can't. If a plan confirms to local and national policy contained in Planning Policy Guidelines and Planning Policy Statements as well as Liverpool's Local Development Framework and any adopted local plans then the planners can't just decline the application because it is ugly. Well they could but the developer would win on appeal.

I completely agree. What a mess! Apparently it was re-designed by American architects and like most U.S. sports stadiums, it's just functional and incredibly ugly. Personally i'd be suprised if it gets planning permission in it's current format, since it's in the middle of Stanley Park. I'd be interested to hear what the Liverpool supporters think of it, especially since the original designs were completely different to this. What exactly makes you think it will not get planning permission in it's current format? Buildings which that kind of impact very rarely do. No building goes from the design stage to actually built without undergoing changes enforced by authorities, complications, time or money. But with a building placed in such a controversial location its even harder. Nevermind what the local council have to say on the matter, you've also got the residents surrounding the grade 2 victorian park living in their listed victorian buildings who if enough object will delay it for years. I know all about the planning process, thank you. I just wanted why exactly he thought it would not get planning permission. They had already received planning permission for a 60,000 capacity stadium in the same location and if Liverpool FC were to move away from the area, which they will do if they don't receive planning permission, it would be a absolute disaster for the local area and local economy. There may well be a few tweaks to the plans before permission is granted, but I'm pretty sure the stadium will get planning permission. Planners can't decline an application because the proposal is ugly. It could then go to a public enquiry though.

I completely agree. What a mess! Apparently it was re-designed by American architects and like most U.S. sports stadiums, it's just functional and incredibly ugly. Personally i'd be suprised if it gets planning permission in it's current format, since it's in the middle of Stanley Park. I'd be interested to hear what the Liverpool supporters think of it, especially since the original designs were completely different to this. What exactly makes you think it will not get planning permission in it's current format?

No chance. He doesn't like the North!!

Followed O'Neill and went to Villa a month or so ago.

I'm sure the screw was already in but needed tightened. Aye. Delayed his comeback by a month or so i think? Can remember him being pencilled in for that FA Cup game at Chelsea? Screw went in when he had the initial operation after he clattered into Paul Robinson, then needed to be tightened later on which caused more delays. Owen had stated: 'The specialists have said that everything is healing fine but to speed ( ) the process they need to tighten the screw they inserted at the time of my operation in January. It is a simple process and should ensure that I'm back playing for Newcastle before the end of the season."

Owen broke the fifth. This is worrying mind http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/health_and_fitness/4283136.stm Owen ended up having a pin/screw inserted iirc which made his comeback take even longer.

Depends how bad the break/fracture is and also depends on which metatarsal.

Full Time.

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2-0 ------- 1-0... offside.

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It's kicking off..

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