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I wasn't milking it, I wanted some abuse, I love it when you talk down to me. :winking: Not sure why you think I'd give you abuse over that post. Not sure why you think I'd post abuse anyway, I generally post contrary opinions to the juveniles, they just interpret any opposing opinion as abuse. You big bully. Been eyeing me up in the shower? gay.gif I'm no use to you, mate. I prefer the bearded clam. Wow, such wit! And you call others juvenile! For the record I don't swing that way either, so don't worry. Wow, such inabililty to spot a bit of banter when you see it! Don't worry, for the record I won't try that again. If I call you a wanker at any time you won't need to wonder whether I mean it or not.

I wasn't milking it, I wanted some abuse, I love it when you talk down to me. :winking: Not sure why you think I'd give you abuse over that post. Not sure why you think I'd post abuse anyway, I generally post contrary opinions to the juveniles, they just interpret any opposing opinion as abuse. You big bully. Been eyeing me up in the shower? gay.gif I'm no use to you, mate. I prefer the bearded clam.

Because apparently not much makes you laugh more than my ill thought out posts and I understand even less about football than I do ID cards. That's not abuse. In any case, that was OTT, there are plenty who make posts that are worse than yours. Much worse.

I wasn't milking it, I wanted some abuse, I love it when you talk down to me. :winking: Not sure why you think I'd give you abuse over that post. Not sure why you think I'd post abuse anyway, I generally post contrary opinions to the juveniles, they just interpret any opposing opinion as abuse.

Why would anything you say annoy me, Alex? I generally couldn't give a toss what you say, tbh. HTL! The "ill thought out" jibe cut me deep so I took time over this... http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,30872.msg592494.html#msg592494 No thoughts? Yeah. It was a good post. blueeek.gif Ok, I just did an edit.

Why would anything you say annoy me, Alex? I generally couldn't give a toss what you say, tbh. HTL! The "ill thought out" jibe cut me deep so I took time over this... http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,30872.msg592494.html#msg592494 No thoughts? Yeah. It's a very good post.

Why would anything you say annoy me, Alex? I generally couldn't give a toss what you say, tbh.

There are people who over years have been going to every match both home and away, they are better supporters than I am. They are certainly better supporters than you are too. And so it goes on..... Aye, as I've already said to Alex about his response to Kiwi. You do preach the obvious, don't you? If I just posted links to your negative posts I'd be here all day and produce a post longer than the efforts of grassroots at his worst. :roll: You don't appear to have the wit to realise that an appointment can only be determined as successful in hindsight. There is no guarantee of success. Ever.

Would much rather listen to Winter talking about NUFC than you any day of the week. Hmmm blueconfused.gif I'm sure you would, but why would Winter want to talk about me anyway?

Pot. Kettle. Black. emot-yawn.gif

wtf? As in Winter never played the game, probably went to a rugby playing school and writes for the tory's very own propaganda paper. Why should we listen to him? What he said that resonated was 'shepherd out'. Everything else in the article is just pure journalism. I do agree with him but i can see why you could think '**** off you opportunistic c*nt' Hadn't really thought of it in that way, more that I see all journalists as liars who will do anything to sell a paper. It's their job, ffs. Beats me why people put them on a pedestal is all I'm saying. Most of them know less than the average fan.

Crap article as usual. I can never understand why some people are stupid enough to place so much credence on stuff written by people who don't automatically know more about football than them, they just have a supposed flair for writing about it. Fact is, Winter knows diddly squat about Newcastle United. Diddly squat. Credit to Winter that he doesn't seem to be a lying sod like many of his colleagues in the press, but he still writes shite, nevertheless.

Most right minded toon fans would like to have a better board without a doubt, but deluded ones say what you say above, despite being told the huge risks involved, based on looking at our own past, and many current clubs at the moment if you look around, that will be watching us with envy when we play in europe - again - next week. Any thoughts on the excerpt from SBR's biography in the other thread? A biography is by definition a one-sided thing, is it not, sponger? If you were going to matches (if you can do it, so can I) during the seasons when we finished 4th, 3rd and 5th you should have noticed that from the latter stages of the season we finished 3rd the performances were dropping. During the season we finished 5th there were posts week after week from people moaning about the player underperforming, you've probably forgotten of course. Anyway, the performances were on the slide for about 18 months before Robson finally went. He should have gone earlier but Fred made a mistake there. Moving him on turned sour because the replacement was the wrong man, but moving him on per se needed to be done. There were problems off the field and most of us should at least agree with that, Robson had lost the players, or it looked like it on the pitch. Don't forget that Liverpool got rid of Hoolia from a strong position of winning 5 trophies because they wanted to do more in the league. I think that's what Fred wanted, the intent was correct, but the appointment of Souness was terrible and we're paying for it still. Don't expect you to agree, sponger. I'd agree with most of that but I tend to believe what Robson said too (haven't heard Shepherd refute those claims either). Neither what you say or what Robson says show Shepherd and the way he runs the club in a particularly good light though. To put it mildly. Never said he does, as I have no idea because I'm not a club insider like you seem to be and most others on this forum must be too. What I've said is Fred backs managers with cash to build their team which is what he should do. Then the manager is judged by the performance of the players in relation to amount he's spend. The fact is, Robson did spend millions even taking into account what came back from sales. If the manager fails to deliver the goods then it's the duty of the Board to get a new one in. Obviously, 4th, 3rd and 5th wasn't good enough for the new found ambition of the club that started in 1992, which I'm glad to see. How a manager is actually removed from a job is often moaned about by departing managers. It's not difficult to work out why.

How ironic that you should play the card you supposedly detest. Actually no irony there. Anyone can comment on games they've watched on TV rather than attended. Commenting on attendance from the other side of the world is a different matter. Nice try though soldier. Err no, not really. No need to mention the bit in bold, tbh. Don't expect you to admit it though, sponger. Sponger? Wrong again. Soldier? Wrong every time.

Most right minded toon fans would like to have a better board without a doubt, but deluded ones say what you say above, despite being told the huge risks involved, based on looking at our own past, and many current clubs at the moment if you look around, that will be watching us with envy when we play in europe - again - next week. Any thoughts on the excerpt from SBR's biography in the other thread? A biography is by definition a one-sided thing, is it not, sponger? If you were going to matches (if you can do it, so can I) during the seasons when we finished 4th, 3rd and 5th you should have noticed that from the latter stages of the season we finished 3rd the performances were dropping. During the season we finished 5th there were posts week after week from people moaning about the player underperforming, you've probably forgotten of course. Anyway, the performances were on the slide for about 18 months before Robson finally went. He should have gone earlier but Fred made a mistake there. Moving him on turned sour because the replacement was the wrong man, but moving him on per se needed to be done. There were problems off the field and most of us should at least agree with that, Robson had lost the players, or it looked like it on the pitch. Don't forget that Liverpool got rid of Hoolia from a strong position of winning 5 trophies because they wanted to do more in the league. I think that's what Fred wanted, the intent was correct, but the appointment of Souness was terrible and we're paying for it still. Don't expect you to agree, sponger.

How ironic that you should play the card you supposedly detest. Actually no irony there. Anyone can comment on games they've watched on TV rather than attended. Commenting on attendance from the other side of the world is a different matter. Nice try though soldier. Err no, not really. No need to mention the bit in bold, tbh. Don't expect you to admit it though, sponger.

How ironic that you should play the card you supposedly detest. Someone 12,000 away who can't go to matches could easily be more interested than someone in Southampton, who COULD go but chooses not to, and moans even when we're consistently in the top 5, like John. Wouldn't you agree, Alex?

:roll: I support the club, sunshine. You could learn something from that.

Not much makes me laugh more than your ill thought out posts...... Souness is the only predictable duff manager appointed by Fred. Given that enough people are crying in their Ready Brek that we didn't get O'Neill, I'd like you to tell me how appointing 3 managers in a row with CV's ranging from fantastic to good, all better than O'Neills incidentally, can possibly be justification for your tripe I've quoted. I suppose if Fred appointed YOUR first choice it would still be down to Fred if that manager was backed but failed? Nowt to do with the manager himself getting it wrong, which if the man has a superb track record can't be predicted. You should stick to the ID Card thread. Although you don't understand that subject you seem to understand even less about football. Thanks

Keep telling yourself it didnt happen, and all you convince is yourselves. Most have more than zero short term memories like yourself and a few on here. Three quarters ? Well, to be honest (something a lot of you seem to have MAJOR problems with) I've failed to find the proof of what was mentioned after the 4-1 win against the makems, but regardless - there damn well WAS a large groundswell of opinion for Glenn - undoubtably the very same people who are trying to claim otherwise now....."not me, guv"..... What point are you trying to prove exactly? Daft question, Gemmill. You know what he's on about. It's the same point as those who supported Souness but who now claim they never did. The forget how they were clamouring for Fred to be a good Chairman by giving Souness a proper chance by backing him with the money to build his own team before judging him, when others could already see Souness was shit. They now slag Fred for doing what they wanted, denying they ever wanted it in the first place. Fred has his faults and isn't perfect but you couldn't make this kind of shit up.

I haven't disappeared from supporting this club for 42 years John, no matter where I've lived, which has been all over the UK, I've travelled and I've been there. Even when we were shit. Did you forecast that a manager with 4 league titles, 2 FA Cups and 3 manager of the year awards would "fail", and his successor who won the FA Cup and left his club in the top 3 in the league would also "fail" ? What standards do you set if you consider these to be bad appointments ? During my time supporting the club, I also waited 22 years to reach a Cup Final. We got there twice in succession with the 2 men you say "failed". Just thought I'd point it out like. I have already answered this a while back. The cup runs involved a lot of luck in the draw, in fact in one of them we did not meet a quality side until the semis. In case you forgot in both cases we then proceeded to give an embarrassing cup final performance. just did not turn up on the day. The overall assessment of success for a supposed big club is the League title. The last time we achieved this was in the 1920's. Its not a case of forecasting who would fail. The fact is 4 out of the last 5 Managers have failed and two have been sacked and one walked out. The current appointment is a joke IMO, as was the previous one. But but but, how can that be? Apparently doing well in Europe is the measure these days...... Anyway, good to know that if we win the FA Cup with Roeder as manager and Fred as Chairman you'll still consider the club to have failed. :roll: This despite the fact you rate O'Neill so highly even though all he's won is the League Cup. After all, he's done diddly squat in the English league. No doubt he didn't have the "luck of the draw" though, so in his case winning the least difficult trophy counts in your eyes. Good example of double standards there and taking any opportunity to slate the club. bluelaugh.gif I agree the league is the true measure, I've always said that, but the FA Cup is a good competition to win and I don't really think it's been possible for a totally shite team to win it for the last 10 years, during which time only 4 clubs have won it. Doing well in the FA Cup is still a reasonable measure to make, unlike the League Cup. Which could of course see Leicester play Tranmere in the final. bluebiggrin.gif I don't think I've read a single post from you that is in praise of the club, and I'm going back probably 6 or 7 years of reading stuff you post. In that time we've had a decent team, finishing 4th, 3rd and 5th and yet you still complained. You've claimed Keegan was a crap manager because we finished 2nd behind a team that won 14 of it's last 16 matches, drawing the other two, a fact you ignore in favour of "Newcastle bashing". You have to be the biggest whinger known to mankind.

this is the problem with most of these anti board/Shepherd posts. They make points about the club which are fair then get carried away making things up that does nothing else other than ruin the credibility of any good points they do make. Dalglish - Early exit from the UEFA Cup with Blackburn. Gullit - Quarter finals of the Cup Winners Cup before being sacked by Chelsea. Sir Bobby - Won the UEFA Cup with Ipswich, Won the European Cup Winners Cup with Barcelona, Poor performances in Europe with PSV. Souness - Shite everywhere he went. Roeder - No European experience. Out of all the managers we've had since Keegan only Robson has any sort of European pedigree, I think tmonkey makes a valid point. If you're going to post track records why not be honest and post the whole thing......? There's more to it than Europe. Because tmonkey's point is "why continually appoint managers with either shiite or nil records in Europe?", to back up his statement I posted their track records in Europe, nobody mentioned their success at domestic level. I know what he said but the fact is there is absolutely no reason at all to narrow it down to Europe only, apart from the fact it suits some to do so. Success in the PL and/or FA Cup definitely count. Even the League Cup was cited by some who were backing Martin O'Neill, but as I say, when it suits....... Not surprised.

Where did I say that I wasn't bothered about our immediate plight? I'm gutted about our situation but not surprised in the slightest and don't trust Shepherd to get a good manager in, that's why I think getting rid of him is more important than getting rid of Roeder. We need a manager to take the club forwards, Shepherd will only get the right man by accident, not by choice. I'm not having a go at you because you seem to have changed your opinion slightly. Total contradiction. I can't be arsed to point it out to you, it would be a waste of my time and I'm tired right now. BTW What opinion am I supposed to have changed? What I want is what's best for the club. That's never changed.

this is the problem with most of these anti board/Shepherd posts. They make points about the club which are fair then get carried away making things up that does nothing else other than ruin the credibility of any good points they do make. Dalglish - Early exit from the UEFA Cup with Blackburn. Gullit - Quarter finals of the Cup Winners Cup before being sacked by Chelsea. Sir Bobby - Won the UEFA Cup with Ipswich, Won the European Cup Winners Cup with Barcelona, Poor performances in Europe with PSV. Souness - Shite everywhere he went. Roeder - No European experience. Out of all the managers we've had since Keegan only Robson has any sort of European pedigree, I think tmonkey makes a valid point. If you're going to post track records why not be honest and post the whole thing......? There's more to it than Europe.

I don't think it's Fred behaviing like an arsehole like.....