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Just saw who scored the winner for West Ham today... Diego Tristan! What?!

Nicky Butt, what a clearance from the man

Scoreline was less harsh last year in this same fixture. But the embarrassing "ownage" factor was pretty strong then too.

What? Fucking hell. So being a real fan is being deluded i guess.

Well that would be up to interpretation. As madras said the ref technically can bring the foul back to where he sees fit. Personally I'd say it should be brought back to point B.

Of course it's not the "first" foul man, it's just logical interpretation of the advantage. For instance if you get: Foul outside the box - advantage played - foul again inside the box... then that would be a penalty.

Not the original foul, the last foul. It's an important difference.

Really? I was always under the impression that it was where the foul originally took place. Mind you, it's been a few years since I went through the laws of the game... Aye it's in the 'advice on application' bit at the back. "If a defender starts holding an attacker outside the penalty area and continues holding him inside the penalty area, the referee must award a penalty kick." Although that does seem to encourage players to just dive when they get into the area. does it specify how far out? b/c there was certainly some back & forth ( grabbing/holding by bassong & pushing off by heskey) that should mean that the continuity of the hold was broken... Nah. Only stipulations are it starts outside the penalty area, and finishes inside. Exactly, when it "continues inside" the area. Therefore if a play is brought back after a fruitless advantage, the last place where a "foul" was committed was inside the box, hence pen. Basically the complete opposite from what happened today.

Fucking hell there are some terrible opinions on here today, but this one The whole point is that Heskey DIDN'T BENEFIT FROM THE ADVANTAGE THEN WIN A PENALTY. The last foul made by Bassong was a good ten yards outside the box. I'll just re post what I said on TT: It really wasn't a complicated incident, which is why it was so insane. Linesman was right to flag when he did, and the ref was also correct to let play go on at first. Bassong fouled Heskey once or twice but never even touched him in less than 20 yards from our goal (not in a fouling manner anyway). When play is halted or when Heskey falls, Easy decision for the ref is to bring it back to where the last "foul" was committed (not the first foul) and maybe give a card. NOT wait and see how long Heskey can stay up and then give a foul wherever he gives up and tumbles. Red card was just icing on the shitcake.

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Yeah, I don't see the term as particularly derogatory. I'd consider myself a plastic Geordie too.

Didn't touch Heskey at all as of 20 yards out it seemed. Pathetic refereeing.

pathetic OP

http://www.eurosport.fr/football/premier-league/2008-2009/ca-va-etre-enorme_sto1792134/story.shtml Interview of Basson, in French though. Cliff notes: - Best game v Spurs, I don't know, but I've been playing well lately I feel. - Not used to playing over Xmas, been resting. Trying to stay fresh, trying to adapt. - Spent Xmas eve with Habib and friends. Family will be over later. Trained 24th, 25th then off to Wigan. - I'm prepared for the schedule so I don't think it'll be too much of a shock. Even though games in England are so much more intense. - Tricky season, but we're climbing up the table, we might be able to push into the top 10 soon as it's very tight. - Enjoying life in Newcastle. Came to learn, and turns out I've been playing a lot, so can't complain. Confidence is growing

Weird, when it first came out loads of people (me included) were appalled, thinking it just looked terrible. But it's really grown on me and I really like the overall darkness of it.

Cisse's been quality for Sunderland since he got there... no donkey-ing about like he has in the past, seems to have been absolutely lethal and any chance he's got.

this And? Waste of space either way. Get a grip you twos.

It did look like he didnt have a clue where it was going to end up He guided it sort goalwards, which he maybe knew was enough.

Ridiculous that they were wearing red socks and shorts... that strip is normally all grey, but if they didn't wnt it to clash with Arsenal's white bits, Liverpool have a dark third kit they could have mixed the socks and shorts with.

so your point is that they both contributed equally to the game. Exactly and perfectly the same. ... Even without Viduka's involvement in the winner, pretty laughable. Anyway, not long now on MOTD.

yeah sure Edit: just noticed Zoggy with 6 as well... ridiculous.

what a beast!

very good

Well that doesn't sound like much fun

Quite a few route one goals this afternoon.