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as i've already posted this deal ought to be investigated by the FA/FIFA/UEFA. It must be classed as bribery or even money laundering.

as i've already posted this deal ought to be investigated by the FA/FIFA/UEFA.

How ironic for them to have essentially owned up to lying to the fans about this very same issue one year later in an independent tribunal. how is it this very same issue and not the issue of "final say". it hardly seems explicit.

Perhaps he felt it was such a ludicrous statement, he didnt for 1 second, feel that anyone would consider it to be fact. In all honesty, do you reallly think, taking one name out of there, that Keegan felt we had a chance of signing Frank Lampard ? Personally I dont. Keegan is a dreamer and an optimist but I dont think he is that stupid. EDIT : I am certainly not labelling you an Ashley lover someone on here not so long ago wrote a critique on how lampard was available and could have come here....... there is talk in the article that keegan had been in touch..surely a story like that is so easy to squash but never was as it wasn't speculation but that he HAD been in touch. what about the other names ?

for a while i thought you were preparing a bid.

nobody is getting worked up anymore.

Does anyone happen to have a link or a copy of the story that came out about the whole Lampard/Henry signings etc ? http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/1687894/Mike-proves-money-walks.html i look forward to keegan persuing ashley and co through the civil court then. oh and wheres the proof that it was misinformation,as yet i've never heard keegan deny it,thats the sort of thing i'd hoped would come out of the case.

Does anyone happen to have a link or a copy of the story that came out about the whole Lampard/Henry signings etc ? tbf many had heard similar rumblings before the notw printed that. yesterdays gareth barry story (in the chron which for weeks had been soilidly pro-keegan seemed strange) edit...may i point out for the zillionth time before i get accused of keegan hating,pro-ashleyism or saying this is what happened...i'm not. i want to know what the truth of the whole situation was.

as it was stated by many people at the time it wasn't that he wanted away that was the problem,it was the manner in which he went about it. i still have no respect for the man whilst also thinking he should have been the player of the year.

been taking the proverbial hiding recently. ajax arsenal red bull saltzburg sturm graz stabaek 3.73

it's equally possible the leak was keegan sided to use it as a threat to get more than the minimum (clause 14.8).

I don't think any of the above was ever going to come out because it had nothing to do with the case. The fact that the club didn't use the Lampard stuff tells its own story as they've tried everything else to win. Including happily being seen as liars not only to Keegan but the fans and I find that staggering. true it had nothing to do with the case but it has a lot to do with what was going on at the club. was no-one a little surprised that the whole thing centered round a loan signing. it is mentioned that it was the "last straw" etc so i don't think it is asking too much to ask what the other straws were. as i've said before IF keegan wanted unrealistic signings it changes the complexion of the issue. i want to know if there was any substance to the lampard/wright philips stories (i notice gareth barry got a mention in these terms in yesterdays chronicle) which would have been better in a court of law than an arbitration panel. not defending ashley but at the same time i need to see more of the full picture before i can back keegan 100%.

Bassong? another thing i'd hope to have been cleared up by the tribunal. as far as i'm aware both ends of the argument are still claiming credit for him.

So why give him a contract stating that he would have the normal duties of a PL manager? BTW, what age are you? tbf there was also that passage about fitness,motivation,tactics and selection. (admittedly "selection" is open to interpritation). why add that in if "normal duties as a manager" already had it covered. it seems like a very clumsy contract from both sides.

In short thats absolute bollocks. If KK was in charge and given the right backing we would be playing entertaining attacking football and pushing for a Europa League place what is the "right backing" given the financial state we were in ?

Why does it matter that he was after £25 million? because its an outlandish and greedy figure. the equivilent of me being constructivly dismissed and claiming 3 years salary then wanting another 5 years on top. if you also had your reputation cast into doubt (preventing you from alternative employment) as a direct consequence then you would have good reason to do so would you not ? i'd have good reason to claim...but not 8 years slary, especially as mif i won any compensation my reputation would be vindicated. not necessarily - usually arbitrations are private affairs and the facts dont get into the public domain and so there was a chance that reputation may still be tainted (mud sticks and all that). The unusual steps to make the findings/specifics public have helped keegan in this regard. Winning i concede was a good start though but that wasn't the case here was it. hence everyone reading the PDF.

Why does it matter that he was after £25 million? because its an outlandish and greedy figure. the equivilent of me being constructivly dismissed and claiming 3 years salary then wanting another 5 years on top. if you also had your reputation cast into doubt (preventing you from alternative employment) as a direct consequence then you would have good reason to do so would you not ? i'd have good reason to claim...but not 8 years slary, especially as mif i won any compensation my reputation would be vindicated.

I don't see any gaps, at least none that matter. because i want to know the ins and outs. i want to know for sure that the lampard et al story was all shit. its a reticence based unfortunatly on keegan himself. the peter garland story, the original walk out, the story of him leaving citeh cos they said he wouldnt have as much cash to spend. good coach but i don't trust the man.

Why does it matter that he was after £25 million? because its an outlandish and greedy figure. the equivilent of me being constructivly dismissed and claiming 3 years salary then wanting another 5 years on top.

even if he signed before anyone hit the search button ? How would Wise know he was on YouTube if he didn't look first? He told KK to look on there the day before we signed him. "dennis, we are getting in jgnacio gonzalez as a favour to some agents" dennis turns youporn off "may aswell have a look at him" Who do you have down as saying "Dennis". I get the felling Dennis & Tony set this deal up together. if it was one of the "finacials" i'd guess it was set up by jiminez alone.

nobody is taking the side of the club but there are still too many gaps to back keegan 100%

because as it say in the PDF his lawyers tried to get round clause 14.8 whatever to get more than the £2mill. 'when cross-examined, Mr Keegan very fairly accepted that Clause 14.8.1 was fair and reasonable.' Do you think he will appeal the ruling and try for more money? i don't think he will but in the pdf after being awarded the £2mill "mr keegan contends that this clause(14.8.1) does not apply,alternativly that it is unenforcable with the result that he is entitled to damages as set out in paragraph 1 (the £25mill)" it seems like he tried.

even if he signed before anyone hit the search button ? How would Wise know he was on YouTube if he didn't look first? He told KK to look on there the day before we signed him. "dennis, we are getting in jgnacio gonzalez as a favour to some agents" dennis turns youporn off "may aswell have a look at him"

because as it say in the PDF his lawyers tried to get round clause 14.8 whatever to get more than the £2mill.

even if he signed before anyone hit the search button ? Nacho was signed on 31/08 according to the PDF, Den & Kev were talking about Nacho on 30/08 according to the PDF. and it would have been agreed before he signed. it was a favout to some agents,probably worse than finding a player on youtube anyway.